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  • #81
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:49am Jul 31, 2009 5:49am
delta contest seems closed by now..

end up as #4...
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  • #82
  • Aug 1, 2009 12:24am Aug 1, 2009 12:24am
they start to process the withdrawal July.22 EST. (Thursday) which is July.23 asia time.

the order arrive at my cc bank July.24 and order closed July.25...
unfortunately my cc bill date is July.24,

so the returning amount cannot cancel the bill before bill date
I have to do a currency exchange and return the cc bill myself >_<

this means request withdraw 1 week ahead did not guarantee it arrive back in time.

Quoting billye
Friday 16pm EST, withdraw request sent by email
Monday 10am EST, support confirm received request, ask to wait 1-2 day
Tuesday 10am EST, support confirm received request, ask to wait 1-2 day
Wednesday 9am EST, support confirm received request, ask to wait 1-2 day
Thurday 7am EST, support confirm received request, ask to wait 1 day, if still not then check tomorrow...
Thursday 9am EST, withdraw amount removed from acc.
and now that the money returned to cc cannot be used to cancel the bill.
I now did the cc deposit again back to fxcm-uk...
who knows if this is their best known method for making customer temp money eventually turn into the real money in their pocket? O_O I'd keep a close eye on this.

Approved
Transaction Date:01-August-2009 - 06:15:58
Order Number:UK1****6
FXCM Account Number:7****5
Customer Name:***ye
Deposit Amount:2498.00
Currency:USD
  • #83
  • Edited 9:53am Aug 2, 2009 9:34am | Edited 9:53am
faint, fxcm-uk processed the 2498$ deposit but change it to 1,482.57 GBP amount and added 1482.57 to my USD account!!

crazy,,,,,,, how about calc it by 15 ounce gold and add 15 to my usd acc??????


Quoting billye
Approved
Transaction Date:01-August-2009 - 06:15:58
Order Number:UK1****6
FXCM Account Number:7****5
Customer Name:***ye
Deposit Amount:2498.00
Currency:USD
complaint filed to fxcm-uk see how long they correct it.
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  • #84
  • Aug 3, 2009 4:58am Aug 3, 2009 4:58am
support acknowledge the problem and will have it fixed. will back check 24hr later.

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'A'
A: Thank you for completing our pre-chat survey. Now that I have your information, how may I assist you today?
billye: hi
billye: my acc 7*********5
billye: I did a cc deposit of 2498 usd to my cfd acc
billye: but I got a report here
billye: 7/31/09 11:26 AM 6093.24
8/2/09 3:10 AM Tx USD 2,498.00 @ 1.6849 = GBP 1,482.57 [UK1*******6- CP - billye – 7*********5]
7****5 1,482.57 7,575.81
billye: it transform 2498 usd to 1482 GBP
billye: then add 1482 to my usd acc which has 6093 balance -> then it is 7575 USD
billye: in summary you added 1482 USD to my acc when I deposit 2498 usd to my acc
billye: pls digest and see if issue is clear
A: I understand. I will have this corrected.
billye: ok
A: I do apologize for the inconvenience.
billye: so my acc is usd and will not incur any for-exchange later right?
billye: no problem..
A: Correct, it will be in USD. I apologize for the error.
billye: I will check back 24hr later to confirm if it's corrected. (assume will deposit 2498 usd and see 2498 in acc)
billye: ok sure
  • #85
  • Aug 3, 2009 8:28am Aug 3, 2009 8:28am
remove 1482 from usd acc where they think it's a GBP acc
deposit 2498$ which match deposit amount... ok now.
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  • #86
  • Aug 5, 2009 5:24am Aug 5, 2009 5:24am
made another usd deposit to fxcm-uk, support promise to be in within 24hrs (usd amount)

Approved
Transaction Date: 05-August-2009 - 11:17:29
Order Number: UK1****4 FXCM Account Number: 7*******5
Customer Name: ***ye Deposit Amount: *8*0.00 Currency: USD
  • #87
  • Aug 5, 2009 9:58am Aug 5, 2009 9:58am
deposit was in 4hr after online payment.

Quoting billye
made another usd deposit to fxcm-uk, support promise to be in within 24hrs (usd amount)

Approved
Transaction Date: 05-August-2009 - 11:17:29
Order Number: UK1****4 FXCM Account Number: 7*******5
Customer Name: ***ye Deposit Amount: *8*0.00 Currency: USD
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  • #88
  • Aug 5, 2009 10:16am Aug 5, 2009 10:16am
support confirm received by 11am EST... see how many *4hrs it takes to withdraw instead of deposit....

info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'P'
P: how may I help you?
billye: I just sent a withdraw request
P: no problem
P: ok
billye: to [email protected] cc [email protected]
billye: could you confirm it received?
P: sure, how much was the withdrawal for?
P: ok checking
billye: July.15
billye: original deposit cancel back to cc
P: yes it was received
P: yes, I see you have selected withdrawal via cc
billye: pls help me cancel back by Wednesday next week
billye: yes
billye: back to cc
P: yes, I'll send it to be processed now
billye: bye
  • #89
  • Aug 6, 2009 5:16am Aug 6, 2009 5:16am
18hrs passed before issue withdraw request of a mid'july deposit, amount not removed from acc.

this is versus 4hr from cc deposit to amount show up in acc.
a solid proof that fxcm-uk process deposit and withdraw in different queues, not in same queue and FIFO.

my expectation is fxcm-uk process withdrawal 10x slower than deposit, i.e. after 40hrs it is processed. let's see if they beat it.. haha

Quoting billye
support confirm received by 11am EST... see how many *4hrs it takes to withdraw instead of deposit....

info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'P'
P: how may I help you?
billye: I just sent a withdraw request
P: no problem
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  • #90
  • Aug 7, 2009 5:55am Aug 7, 2009 5:55am
goes to follow-up with support.
to my surprise the support I talked to initially did not see my request (in a queue or something?)

after I pull-out Aug.5 chat log, they then find out the Aug.5 request from email.

it seems necessary that a follow-up after 24hrs to confirm that they did not miss the request.

anyway.

Quoting billye
44hr passed, withdrawal not processed.

now it is more than 11x slower than deposit, let's see if it's less than 20x slower or process within 80hr upon request.
info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'M'
M: Thank you for completing our pre-chat survey. Now that I have your information, how may I assist you today?
billye: i submit a withdraw request of **7$ back to cc ***1, 43hr ago
billye: wanna follow up on when it can be processed
M: Mr. Y, I can help you with that, one moment please
M: We have received a request from you, however it is not a Withdrawal Request form.
………
A: I do see your document, and will ensure your withdrawal was processed.
billye: could you double check if wednesday Aug.5 you did receive the request?
billye: possibly it is just a missing of email
A: I do see it from the 5th.
  • #91
  • Aug 7, 2009 3:38pm Aug 7, 2009 3:38pm
however... I asked for 2499$+2498$ withdrawal back... O_O

can't they do it right 1st time with/out me following up with it?

I'll send a mail to complain again.
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  • #92
  • Aug 8, 2009 1:50am Aug 8, 2009 1:50am
I think I cannot endure this kind of mess. I would rather find another good one.
  • #93
  • Edited 3:06am Aug 8, 2009 2:27am | Edited 3:06am
Quoting fxfei
I think I cannot endure this kind of mess. I would rather find another good one.
fxsol-aus was okey,
cc deposit within 15min, withdrawal remove from acc in 24hrs and back to bank in 3 days.

I don't know why fxcm-uk is so slow.
1st time from withdrawal request to remove from my acc takes 6 days to process and missed my cc deadline
2nd time deposit 2499$ was translated to GBP number and add ~1470 to my usd acc
3rd time after 2 days submit withdraw, support says I did not submit it
4th time request 2 withdrawal and missed 1 >_<

HOWEVER... their fund was safe and trading was legitimate and was one of brokers who has good relationship and not rejected by my banks.
it was an okey backup account for bigger trades...
  • #94
  • Aug 10, 2009 4:54am Aug 10, 2009 4:54am
no reply for email complaint.... logged on live chat, chat acknowledge the issue and will have it corrected.

Quoting billye
however... I asked for 2499$+2498$ withdrawal back... O_O

can't they do it right 1st time with/out me following up with it?

I'll send a mail to complain again.
info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'A'
A: Thank you for completing our pre-chat survey. Now that I have your information, how may I assist you today?
billye: about a withdrawal request form submitted on Aug.5th
billye: from billye******@********
billye: could you check it for me?
A: Sure. Allow me to check the status of that.
billye: Order ID: UK1*******8 Date: 15-July-2009 - 15:37:14 Pay to: Forex Capital Markets, Ltd Amount: 2499.00 Trading Account Currency Denomination**: USD
billye: Order ID: UK1*********2 Date: 15-July-2009 - 15:39:01 Pay to: Forex Capital Markets, Ltd Amount: 2498.00 Trading Account Currency Denomination**: USD
billye: request to cancel above 2 cc deposit back to cc ***1
billye: till now only 2499$ one processed, 2498$ one did not remove from acc
A: Okay. One moment please.
A: I believe there was some confusion on our part, that the processor thought you only wanted 2499, rather than both deposits to be refunded.
A: I will have this corrected.
billye: I guess so
A: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
billye: but my email title specified 2499+2498$ back to cc ***1 and that is what is written 4997$ back to cc ***1 in the form.
A: I see that, I am not sure why they were confused.
billye: could you try to remove it today? coz my cc bank close the book Friday
A: Yes, I will have it fixed right away.
billye: last time it was credit back 1 day late, so I had to pay it with cash myself hehe
  • #95
  • Aug 10, 2009 6:53am Aug 10, 2009 6:53am
withdrawal error fixed by fxcm-uk. withdrawal 4997$ removed from acc.

Quoting billye

2499$ removed from acc

however... I asked for 4997$=2499$+2498$ withdrawal back... O_O

can't they do it right 1st time with/out me following up with it?

I'll send a mail to complain again.
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  • #96
  • Edited 3:05pm Aug 11, 2009 11:16am | Edited 3:05pm
although with lots of delays & errors,
they most of the time works in the end...

I am closing the test trades and cancelling back deposit amounts back to my bank in a few batches,

info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'L'
L: Thank you for choosing FXCM. My name is L in the Operations Department. How may I assist you today?
billye: I just sent a withdrawal form to cancel back 2500 usd out of the 4800 usd cc deposit
billye: to [email protected]
L: I can check that that request was received.
billye: "hello. I want to cancel back 2500 usd to cc ***0, out of the Aug.5 deposit (4800 usd) pls make sure you only remove 2500 usd, not the total 4800 usd... thanks.
Order ID: UK1*******4 Date: 05-August-2009 - 11:17:29 Pay to: Forex Capital Markets, Ltd Amount: 4800.00 Trading Account Currency Denomination**: USD "
L: Yes, it is here and I see your note addition at the bottom.
L: It will be placed in line for processing.

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depend on luck to see if there will be 50$ profit left in acc or not... if after withdraw left <50 fxcm will close your acc.
will not purposely leave it since their trades position still too big for me... for 1st year of trades I'd stay fine with fxsol's 1k$ positions. + ava trading 700$ oil.

re-visiting post#1 plan...
fxcm-uk? works... fxsol-aus works as my main acc.
I still have no chance to deposit to fxpro directly since my bank rejects paying it. (via paypal proxy acc probably works?)
interactivebrokers deposit deadline (45 days) is this week... I probably will miss it and reopen acc later.
deltastock I had a 50% bonus max 5k euro since I won their monthly contest/ deposit deadline is this month... it will be considered.

I am actually trading c-oil with ava right now will update some details later... ava trade size 700~<2k$ much smaller so feels better.
  • #97
  • Aug 11, 2009 12:07pm Aug 11, 2009 12:07pm
These are important posts and im glad u r doing this. Most helpful-thanks.
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  • #98
  • Aug 12, 2009 7:40am Aug 12, 2009 7:40am
request of Aug.5 was processed on Aug.10 EST and back to my cc on Aug.12 asia time. attached cc notes.

cancel back 2499+2498$ cc deposit on July.17

Quoting billye
support confirm received by Aug.5 11am EST... see how many *4hrs it takes to withdraw instead of deposit....

info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'P'
P: how may I help you?
billye: I just sent a withdraw request
P: no problem
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  • #99
  • Edited 8:02am Aug 12, 2009 7:50am | Edited 8:02am
follow up on yesterday's fxcm-uk withdraw request. (it has been a routine for me and f~ in order to make sure they don't miss this thing or that >_<)

inline to be processed, amount not removed from acc yet.

Quoting billye
I am closing the test trades and cancelling back deposit amounts back to my bank in a few batches,

info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'L'
L: Thank you for choosing FXCM. My name is L in the Operations Department. How may I assist you today?
[size=3][font=Times New Roman]billye: I just sent a withdrawal form to cancel......

[color=red]You are now chatting with 'L'
L: Thank you for completing our pre-chat survey. Now that I have your information, how may I assist you today?
billye: hi
L: Hello, billye. How may I assist you today?
billye: i submit a withdraw request yesterday
billye: to withdraw/cancel 2500 back to cc
billye: 2500 usd out of a 4800 usd deposit on Aug.5
billye: pls help me confirm it was inline to be processed
L: I can check the most current status of your withdrawal, billye. Please allow me a few moments while I do so.
L: billye, I see that we have your withdrawal and it should be processed sometime today. Tomorrow would be the latest.
billye: ok
billye: anytime by this week would be fine
billye: thanks I will follow up by Friday if not removed from acc, otherwise just wait
  • #100
  • Aug 12, 2009 9:03am Aug 12, 2009 9:03am
I was hoping billye,before you end one of the most useful threads in this forum, you post a kind of rating for each broker/catagory based on your experience during this thread? Hope u will. Thanks Ernest
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