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  • #121,081
  • Jul 13, 2009 10:49am Jul 13, 2009 10:49am
Quoting Jm4x
Hum if it's a false break i'll like it ... I'm waiting for a short at 1.3975.
If you ask me... i would wait for PA to close under 3964 (middleband of the Keltner channel) I could be support..
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  • #121,082
  • Jul 13, 2009 10:52am Jul 13, 2009 10:52am
Quoting gatorinla
3974/4001 is a turn area.. see if it gets to 61 and how it acts..if it acts weak we go up.. back to turn area for another try.. if turn area rejected we go down to 61 to start process all over.. if we dont hit 61 its bullish.. below it bearish till next turn area..
read older post... substitute words depending on what side your on of 61...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #121,083
  • Jul 13, 2009 10:59am Jul 13, 2009 10:59am
Quoting Atlast
Ever heard of life's a bitch. Nothin to do with sex.
I have, many times but I always thought that it meant something along the lines of "that nagging, lazy, money grabbing cow I have at home" So I had to think about that one. Told ya I'm a bit slow sometimes. I even looked it up and the meaning given was "an expression of acceptance of misfortune". So I learnt something today.

So the original poster was saying that the Euro was his acceptance of misfortune when he posted "Move bitch"?
Nothing worth having is easy.
  • #121,084
  • Jul 13, 2009 11:05am Jul 13, 2009 11:05am
Quoting Patience
I have, many times but I always thought that it meant something along the lines of "that nagging, lazy, money grabbing cow I have at home" So I had to think about that one. Told ya I'm a bit slow sometimes. I even looked it up and the meaning given was "an expression of acceptance of misfortune". So I learnt something today.

So the original poster was saying that the Euro was his acceptance of misfortune when he posted "Move bitch"?
  • #121,085
  • Jul 13, 2009 11:05am Jul 13, 2009 11:05am
good morning to everyone!!
  • #121,086
  • Jul 13, 2009 11:05am Jul 13, 2009 11:05am
Rofl What about "holy shit"?

Quoting Patience
I have, many times but I always thought that it meant something along the lines of "that nagging, lazy, money grabbing cow I have at home" So I had to think about that one. Told ya I'm a bit slow sometimes. I even looked it up and the meaning given was "an expression of acceptance of misfortune". So I learnt something today.

So the original poster was saying that the Euro was his acceptance of misfortune when he posted "Move bitch"?
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #121,087
  • Jul 13, 2009 11:10am Jul 13, 2009 11:10am
When it comes to hedging with UC it seems like its a bad idea to try it when your almost in crisis on a position but not really in crisis. If a range is pushing the point where theres going to be a breakout against you, I'm learning that pulling the trigger on a hedge too soon is a big mistake. Obviously it can turn around on you and go back in your original direction. Then your just marginal on your original position but in a loss with your hedge. So you really need to be losing some money first, so it seems.
  • #121,088
  • Jul 13, 2009 11:11am Jul 13, 2009 11:11am
nap time. i sold uc as hedge while i sleep
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #121,089
  • Jul 13, 2009 11:40am Jul 13, 2009 11:40am
m15 double top, give us a little selloff toward the NY close & we fall back below 50
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  • #121,090
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:13pm Jul 13, 2009 12:13pm
Quoting The Fool
m15 double top, give us a little selloff toward the NY close & we fall back below 50
Or a nasty spike upwards then a sell off like we have seen several times over the past weeks.
rat
  • #121,091
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:26pm Jul 13, 2009 12:26pm
Quoting rattyo
Or a nasty spike upwards then a sell off like we have seen several times over the past weeks.
true dat, stock index correlation worth watching on low tf, but not what it once was... was looking for some DJIA profit taking at day's end but it may not come..
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #121,092
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:28pm Jul 13, 2009 12:28pm
I'm tracking the following tracks on the hourly chat. The circled area sure does look tasty
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  • #121,093
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:32pm Jul 13, 2009 12:32pm
Quoting The Fool
true dat, stock index correlation worth watching on low tf, but not what it once was... was looking for some DJIA profit taking at day's end but it may not come..
watching the DOW too now. last 30 mins.
rat
  • #121,094
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:42pm Jul 13, 2009 12:42pm
Quoting rattyo
watching the DOW too now. last 30 mins.
The one to watch is the S&P 500 spiking back above the 888 level, just for the european close.

Let's see if it can close above it. It's @ 898.5 now...

Gold got a nice push too
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  • #121,095
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:48pm Jul 13, 2009 12:48pm
This is an amateur question but I'm very new to trading the eur/usd. Does the S&P usually trend the same way as the eurusd? I noticed the movements were identical today.
  • #121,096
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:50pm Jul 13, 2009 12:50pm
Quoting Hell7
I'm tracking the following tracks on the hourly chat. The circled area sure does look tasty
waiting for the same spot to get on.
  • #121,097
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:57pm Jul 13, 2009 12:57pm
Quoting OleMiss
This is an amateur question but I'm very new to trading the eur/usd. Does the S&P usually trend the same way as the eurusd? I noticed the movements were identical today.
from time to time
this is not a rule

below is daily chart with comparison eur/usd and s&p500
as you can see corellation is quite small
sp500 is well corelated with JPY crosses
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  • #121,098
  • Jul 13, 2009 12:58pm Jul 13, 2009 12:58pm
Quoting 5ysfx
from time to time
this is not a rule

below is daily chart with comparison eur/usd and s&p500
as you can see corellation is quite small
sp500 is well corelated with JPY crosses
Okay great, thanks.
  • #121,099
  • Edited 1:02pm Jul 13, 2009 12:59pm | Edited 1:02pm
US indexes are somewhat correlated to the dollar. The eurusd being the anti-dollar, this explains why eurusd and the US indexes are somewhat correlated.
This correlation will vary with time, and shouldn't be sufficient to give trade signals, but could give clues to paint the bigger picture with other sources like usdchf, gold, oil, commodities currencies...

We have somewhat strong correlation now because a lot of markets are at inflexion points and ranging (especially because of the summer slower season and the earning season that kicks off this week), waiting for the next direction to be taken.
Getting it right is NOT as important as not getting it wrong.
  • #121,100
  • Jul 13, 2009 1:01pm Jul 13, 2009 1:01pm
Quoting OleMiss
This is an amateur question but I'm very new to trading the eur/usd. Does the S&P usually trend the same way as the eurusd? I noticed the movements were identical today.
They are usually headed the same direction but today they did not trend the same. SPX went up 2% wile E/U resented any pressure up and the big dog did it's best to keep it at bay. We will see E/U further making lows (I expect a break short of the new triangle formed) - as soon as SPX goes down again it's show time. This week, not later.
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