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  • #115,321
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:20am Jun 26, 2009 3:20am
morning all
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  • #115,322
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:21am Jun 26, 2009 3:21am
Quoting notch
Market Profile Analysis (I don't trade this): Below 1.4067 then expect 1.3987 mometum will slow at this point and price will makes it way to 1.3977. At this point there should be a quick bounce back to 1.3987. If 1.3977 holds expect 1.4027 after which point price should move lower again to retest the 1.3987-77 area. If price can penetrate 3977 and remain below it for 2 15 min bars then 3977 becomes the new pivot point.


Above 1.4067:

Already you could have taken 40 pips or locked in 30 pips.
  • #115,323
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:22am Jun 26, 2009 3:22am
Quoting TheFisherman
The money never existed. The missing money were the difference in share value. Let's say the free-float of a company is 10%. If someone buys maybe 2-3% of the company would probably push the share price to +100% hence pushing the hole company value to +100%. Then, when you sell 2% the share value comes back to normal and people start yelling - where is the 300M that the company lost? The answer is easy: they never existed in the first place.
yeah, and that virtual money with company borrowings and leverage depending on the value of their shares, when it went 100% so did their leverage in borrowing and when the crash came, their leveraged borrowing outweighed their assets. So billion dollar losses. For investors, including large hedge funds, they may have got in at the point when the share price was 80% up, since these long term players love to buy at the highs, then when the price fell to 10%, guess what happened to the hedge funds, mutual funds, etc. ALL lost. Billions, real money based on perceived value. Who gained, the bankers on fat bonuses, the CEO's who sold out their shares near the top and some small hedge funds. Perceived value is virtual money, which leads to real money losses. Who else gained, China holding all the aces. Cheaper companies,larger share, more control.
  • #115,324
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:22am Jun 26, 2009 3:22am
Quoting dbfusion
morning all
  • #115,325
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:25am Jun 26, 2009 3:25am
Quoting Atlast
yeah, and that virtual money with company borrowings and leverage depending on the value of their shares, when it went 100% so did their leverage in borrowing and when the crash came, their leveraged borrowing outweighed their assets. So billion dollar losses. For investors, including large hedge funds, they may have got in at the point when the share price was 80% up, since these long term players love to buy at the highs, then when the price fell to 10%, guess what happened to the hedge funds, mutual funds, etc. ALL lost. Billions, real money...

Exactly what I was thinking but since it is an Economic basic I thought I'd save my breath.
  • #115,326
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:27am Jun 26, 2009 3:27am
The market seems to be dead. If this goes on for a while I'm expecting a move later in the day, but should be nothing significant.

But surprise is a middle name of FX, so we'll just have to see.
Greed and impatience are our greatest enemies.
  • #115,327
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:27am Jun 26, 2009 3:27am
Quoting Hasnaa
Latest Chart !
Thanks for the chart . There exist a bear bat for some time ,apparently paying out but still there ,either to finish or retrace fully.
fontu
Now there is a bull gartley in lower charts min d point 1.3996, so it should come down more than expected ,if work.
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Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #115,328
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:32am Jun 26, 2009 3:32am
Quoting IMARICH1
I can use some help Notch or Atlast if you see something going on in PA...I am SHORT at 1.4023 when it broke the 1.4026 support.....then it went back up against me....I added on some more shorts to offset this at 1.4049...

So we are targeting the 3995 area as oppossed to your number of 3890?
Yes. target near round numbers. You appear to have taken a breakout trade. I don't know what TF chart you are using, but remember breakout trades require larger SL. You entered right at support. You caould have gone short near the highs instead. I was 5 pips out. You need to brush up on PA. PA plus support and resistance.
  • #115,329
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:33am Jun 26, 2009 3:33am
Quoting notch
Exactly what I was thinking but since it is an Economic basic I thought I'd save my breath.
but you're the economic expert, not me.
  • #115,330
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:34am Jun 26, 2009 3:34am
missed scalping by 1 pips

I hope this Friday will be green day for every one
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  • #115,331
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:35am Jun 26, 2009 3:35am
Quoting Atlast
but you're the economic expert, not me.

Nah dude. Stop being modest...you have economics locked down! (hey...I'm no expert! I have a degree in the subject and that's it!)

Hmmmm...I might get a bite of the 4057 selling area afterall!
  • #115,332
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:38am Jun 26, 2009 3:38am
Quoting dbfusion
missed scalping by 1 pips

I hope this Friday will be green day for every one
Yep...it's a bitch when that happens but the flip side is that there has been many occassions when the price has missed my stop by 1 pip.
  • #115,333
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:39am Jun 26, 2009 3:39am
Quoting notch
Already you could have taken 40 pips or locked in 30 pips.
You market profile analysis very good, as usual. Maybe you should give some newbies some tips how to do it.
  • #115,334
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:41am Jun 26, 2009 3:41am
wow that was just crap. I shorted at 4054 with two lot's (mini's of course) and was gonna close out one at 4030 and freakin dealbook freeze's never had that happen before had to call them up and close my trade's and when i called they said i would be closed out at 4040
  • #115,335
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:41am Jun 26, 2009 3:41am
Quoting notch
Yep...it's a bitch when that happens but the flip side is that there has been many occassions when the price has missed my stop by 1 pip.
yup that's also a biatch .

I had my buy limit @ 4015 and it went as low as 4016 and bounced back up

now I'm only watching the show
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  • #115,336
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:42am Jun 26, 2009 3:42am
Sold 1.4037, TP 1.4003
  • #115,337
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:44am Jun 26, 2009 3:44am
ok I sold it @ 4036

taking revenge

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  • #115,338
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:44am Jun 26, 2009 3:44am
Quoting Atlast
You market profile analysis very good, as usual. Maybe you should give some newbies some tips how to do it.

All the information about Market Profile is at the following location: http://www.cbot.com/cbot/pub/page/0,3181,1168,00.html

There is alot to it and the best way to understand it to work one's way the materials on the CBOT site.
  • #115,339
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:47am Jun 26, 2009 3:47am
Quoting dbfusion
yup that's also a biatch .

I had my buy limit @ 4015 and it went as low as 4016 and bounced back up

now I'm only watching the show
what is biatch?
  • #115,340
  • Jun 26, 2009 3:47am Jun 26, 2009 3:47am
Quoting Atlast
Sold 1.4037, TP 1.4003

Good call but I simply do not have the nerve to short from there. I need a better (or rather higher) entry.
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