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  • #81
  • Jun 19, 2009 11:36am Jun 19, 2009 11:36am
Not to bad for my first try

I was long

0.3 lots @ 158.54
TP1 0.1 @ 159.03 +49 pips (€ 36.31)
TP2 0.1 @ 159.55 +101 pips (€ 74.76) -

SL to 158.54 as the price action was side ways
TP3 never happen as price went down and hit SL

Have a good week-end.

Gerry
  • #82
  • Jun 19, 2009 11:48am Jun 19, 2009 11:48am
Quoting biker883
Not to bad for my first try

I was long

0.3 lots @ 158.54
TP1 0.1 @ 159.03 +49 pips (€ 36.31)
TP2 0.1 @ 159.55 +101 pips (€ 74.76) -

SL to 158.54 as the price action was side ways
TP3 never happen as price went down and hit SL

Have a good week-end.

Gerry

great job...what do you think of chaos system and how long have u been trading this system?
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  • #83
  • Jun 19, 2009 12:23pm Jun 19, 2009 12:23pm
When I first started trading Forex I ran into the Chaos Trading Method. Wish I would have worked at it a little harder. It was hard for me to understand what the rules meant so I gave up on it do to misinterpretation. Since this thread started I took another look at it and it makes much more since now and it seems like it is profitable with little risk.

I look forward to lurking some more
  • #84
  • Jun 19, 2009 12:40pm Jun 19, 2009 12:40pm
Quoting maxss280
When I first started trading Forex I ran into the Chaos Trading Method. Wish I would have worked at it a little harder. It was hard for me to understand what the rules meant so I gave up on it do to misinterpretation. Since this thread started I took another look at it and it makes much more since now and it seems like it is profitable with little risk.

I look forward to lurking some more
Thanks for checking out my new chaos thread...this method is very simple but not easy to trade with.. i have tried several trading strategy that work and i can add to chaos method not but on my trading journal i found several books which i download some and forget some i later whet back to the site and saw the name bill williams i just dont know what made me to pick the name and later download the book, i read this book for several months before using the system..this system give the accurate entry point and when to stay out of the market for new entry. chaos cant tell u when to take profit so dont be greedy when u done with ur daily target or if u swing trader u should have the phys to know when to exit ur position..
i just feel that this method is not common on this forum i have seen chaos thread here but it's not active like i want to i decide to open mine so that i can learn from more experience trade and share what i have..
u are free to ask anything if u need and post ur analysis.....if i am wrong let me know if u wrong i'll let u know we cant fully be perfect..
u welcome again...look forward to your analysis..
have a wonderful weekend
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  • #85
  • Jun 20, 2009 11:33am Jun 20, 2009 11:33am
Quoting donfriday
Thanks for checking out my new chaos thread...this method is very simple but not easy to trade...

I am working on getting chaos info on my esignal chart...it will take me sometime but will get it up for ya mate..
this might help for next week ...MACD and AO work same divergence stuffs . i am expecting PA to check on 160.55 to complet the right shoulder before trend decide where to go..
have a great weekend all.. see u monday market
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  • #86
  • Jun 20, 2009 6:15pm Jun 20, 2009 6:15pm
Quoting donfriday
I am working on getting chaos info on my esignal chart...it will take me sometime but will get it up for ya mate..
this might help for next week ...MACD and AO work same divergence stuffs . i am expecting PA to check on 160.55 to complet the right shoulder before trend decide where to go..
have a great weekend all.. see u monday market

with this info on 4hrs chart chaos system price should gap down and rise to test 160.55 area to form a new breakout fractal so i am looking for GJ to gap down base on AC Div down and AO still green so i am expecting AO to cross 0 line ...
i saw a gap down on 1hr chart AO still red so we might be buying from 157..
have a wonderful weekend.
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  • #87
  • Jun 22, 2009 8:04am Jun 22, 2009 8:04am
Quoting donfriday
with this info on 4hrs chart chaos system price should gap down and rise to test 160.55 area to form a new breakout fractal so i am looking for GJ to gap down base on AC Div down and AO still green so i am expecting AO to cross 0 line ...
i saw a gap down on 1hr chart AO still red so we might be buying from 157..
have a wonderful weekend.

putting sell limit below the 1hr fractal...157.20 157.70 my sl cant more than 50..hope it play out well..my target 155
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  • #88
  • Jun 22, 2009 9:10am Jun 22, 2009 9:10am
Nice trade don. Im looking for a retrace from our lows on the GJ soon. Can see 158 again today if we get a small bounce in the DOW off its lows. I'll post a chart later.
  • #89
  • Jun 22, 2009 9:52am Jun 22, 2009 9:52am
Quoting donfriday
great job...what do you think of chaos system and how long have u been trading this system?

Hi Don,

How are you today?

To be honest with you, Friday was the first day I followed the Chaos Rules to take a trade. I already read about about a year ago and never stick at it.

My Forex journey started way back in 2003, if I remember when For the first time I look at charting program FXCM and of course I blew few demo account without knowing what I was doing. As I had a busy job I let it down.

In mid 2004 I suffered a depression and after having worked in different companies I decide in Sept 2006 that In order to be able to re-equilibrate myself I needed to find a reasonable steady job with little responsibilities. So I did and realised that I had some quite time and in Feb 2007 I cross again a website about trading forex.

I realised that was the place were there is good opportunity to earn some extra money and may be to be self sufficient. I also realised that was not going to be easy and therefore decided to take my time to try to understand what I arena I was getting in. Again of course I blew demo accounts but this time with a certitude that it was possible. I Read and read most of the 5 stars thread on FF and few on other forum and others things on the net, collected hundreds of indicators and PDF file and so on.

In August 2008, I finally started to have more winners than losers and since then my demo account never stop growing from 25000 to 90000 as of this month. My problem is that I am not consistent. Since August I have been more carefull with my lot size and stops and still sometimes I made silly positions but overall I am quite satisfied of my progress.

My main lack is certainly discipline because I never used a steady approach and fixed rules and without that there is no way to be consistant and without consistancy there no way I will put a cent of real money on the table.

So my main goal for the next couple of months it is to work on my discipline and may be sticking only on one thread is the way to go.

As I have nothing to hide, I attach my trades since last August, there are some gaps because I forgot to save my history from time to time.
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  • #90
  • Jun 22, 2009 10:09am Jun 22, 2009 10:09am
Quoting biker883
Hi Don,

How are you today?

To be honest with you, Friday was the first day I followed the Chaos Rules to take a trade. I already read about about a year ago and never stick at it.

My Forex journey started way back in 2003, if I remember when For the first time I look at charting program FXCM and of course I blew few demo account without knowing what I was doing. As I had a busy job I let it down.

In mid 2004 I suffered a depression and after having worked in different companies I decide in Sept 2006 that In order to be able to re-equilibrate...

thanks for ur honesty.....i guess thos is demo account?
well u have played ur part and now u should have more winning position...forex is risky so u surely need to pay some price, i did not use demo account much and i blew several live account ..
i dont go to different forum much i just post on auslanco and now i open my thread ..
u are welcome and hold to find a good trend ..but i prefare to work with my own analysis cus i have made several mistakes following some guru...
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  • #91
  • Edited 10:39am Jun 22, 2009 10:10am | Edited 10:39am
Quoting donfriday
putting sell limit below the 1hr fractal...157.20 157.70 my sl cant more than 50..hope it play out well..my target 155
This morning I also took a short
0.3 lots at 157.56 - As of the 03h00 fractal - no stop
closed 0.1l lot a +50pips

Waiting for 100 pips to close an other lot and SL at 158.03 to high of the last fractal

and again we bounced between the 50 and the 61.8 Fib retracement so the down move might slow down.
The break of 156.77 might resume the downtrend
AO show more than 6 reds consecutives bars - exhaustion of the down move?
on H1 the last closed candle could be a wiseman 1 as per the rules is the second edition excepted that it has not made a new low
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  • #92
  • Jun 22, 2009 10:13am Jun 22, 2009 10:13am
Quoting Sonofsin5
Nice trade don. Im looking for a retrace from our lows on the GJ soon. Can see 158 again today if we get a small bounce in the DOW off its lows. I'll post a chart later.

PA look crazy today i have been taking 50 or 20 pips today...hard to short now till clear picture...15tf on gj biulding a hidden bullish divergence ...if it get to 155 i place a buy base on my system signal but we need to break the 1hr fractal to go down more..
what is on your mind?
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  • #93
  • Jun 22, 2009 10:18am Jun 22, 2009 10:18am
Quoting donfriday
thanks for ur honesty.....i guess thos is demo account?
well u have played ur part and now u should have more winning position...forex is risky so u surely need to pay some price, i did not use demo account much and i blew several live account ..
i dont go to different forum much i just post on auslanco and now i open my thread ..
u are welcome and hold to find a good trend ..but i prefare to work with my own analysis cus i have made several mistakes following some guru...
Unfortunately, it is demo account
If it was real I would be very happy man.

Would you mind to detail how you do your analysis?
  • #94
  • Jun 22, 2009 10:28am Jun 22, 2009 10:28am
Quoting biker883
Unfortunately, it is demo account
If it was real I would be very happy man.

Would you mind to detail how you do your analysis?
Well i have told u ...i use historical PA, 5 or 15tf for my entry and use chaos to pick my entry.....

GJ 4hrs now clear but we need to break the last 1hr fractal to send gj down to 155..
AC and AO is red...15tf AC is got 1red and AO is green so we need a clear signal on the 4hrs candle...
take a look at gj daily on ur system u will see ..

posting a chart will make others spot how it work ..so kindly give ur details on ur chart as i did on page 6... just for those who are interested in this system..
thanks for ur support ..
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  • #95
  • Jun 22, 2009 10:52am Jun 22, 2009 10:52am
Quoting donfriday
Well i have told u ...i use historical PA, 5 or 15tf for my entry and use chaos to pick my entry.....

GJ 4hrs now clear but we need to break the last 1hr fractal to send gj down to 155..
AC and AO is red...15tf AC is got 1red and AO is green so we need a clear signal on the 4hrs candle...
take a look at gj daily on ur system u will see ..

posting a chart will make others spot how it work ..so kindly give ur details on ur chart as i did on page 6... just for those who are interested in this system..
thanks for ur support ..

check this out .......if u want to use W3 to add to ur position check 5tf and wait for price to close inside the gator with a new fractal there u should add and sl above the previous..
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  • #96
  • Jun 22, 2009 11:00am Jun 22, 2009 11:00am
Quoting biker883
Unfortunately, it is demo account
If it was real I would be very happy man.

Would you mind to detail how you do your analysis?

omg bikers can u imagine that this system work clearly on GU while GJ later show signal ....i have been checking this out and i find out that GU will will be more easy to trade on chaos while add GJ ...check it out u will find it as i told u.,
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  • #97
  • Jun 22, 2009 2:32pm Jun 22, 2009 2:32pm
Quoting donfriday
omg bikers can u imagine that this system work clearly on GU while GJ later show signal ....i have been checking this out and i find out that GU will will be more easy to trade on chaos while add GJ ...check it out u will find it as i told u.,

done for today just looking at the PA movement ....here is my view and trade caution a break of this fractal will send gj to 154 ...
i am not shorting gj for now till i see what the outcome of todays trade will be..
if u have question feel free to ask me.
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  • #98
  • Edited 3:16pm Jun 22, 2009 3:15pm | Edited 3:16pm
What a day for the markets. I cant see Asia liking what happened today. I'll look to sell on a rally post Tokyo open. I like to keep the charts simple as you can tell.
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  • #99
  • Jun 22, 2009 3:32pm Jun 22, 2009 3:32pm
Quoting Sonofsin5
What a day for the markets. I cant see Asia liking what happened today. I'll look to sell on a rally post Tokyo open. I like to keep the charts simple as you can tell.

simple chart..i like to keep it simple to my satisfaction base on what i need to analys my trade..
i close all my position now on sell limit...i will not short gj till we break 1hr fractal..
AO turn 3 green ..we might go up from here if bias dont change..
i am done for today going to bed now...see you asia r europe...
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  • #100
  • Jun 22, 2009 9:10pm Jun 22, 2009 9:10pm
Quoting donfriday
simple chart..i like to keep it simple to my satisfaction base on what i need to analys my trade..
i close all my position now on sell limit...i will not short gj till we break 1hr fractal..
AO turn 3 green ..we might go up from here if bias dont change..
i am done for today going to bed now...see you asia r europe...
i am looking for buy set up on 15tf bullish divergence to retrace before we break 154.. target is 156 ...
5tf showing buyers...
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