DislikedOk, one more chart and I'm out. Please let me know if you guys would sooner I not post so many. This is my version of Sizz's GJ chart with a logical microcycle added (Yellow).Ignored
When all people share their indicators, then I will continue to share mine.
You can't use my toys if Johnny won't give me his
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:(Note: Not interested in his indicators. First this is a thread about indicator free trading and second I use Sierra Chart.)
- #796
- Dec 28, 2007 9:02pm Dec 28, 2007 9:02pm
The epitome of mature generosity.
You can't use my toys if Johnny won't give me his
(Note: Not interested in his indicators. First this is a thread about indicator free trading and second I use Sierra Chart.)
- #797
- Dec 28, 2007 10:41pm Dec 28, 2007 10:41pm
- Joined Oct 2006 | Status: Trader | 1,076 Posts
I've seen a few posts about how important it is to find the "beginning" and "end" of a cylce. A cycle doesn't have a starting and ending point. That's why it's called a cycle. 
For example suppose I'm researching cyclic market behavior and I find four events that seem to happen in a certain order; A B C and D. Any of those four events could be considered the "start" or "end" of the cycle. Two iterations of the cycle could look like any of the following:
ABCDABCD
BCDABCDA
CDABCDAB
DABCDABC
Those are all the same cycle, each with a different starting point.
Searchers for cycles may be better served by asking questions like,
1. What are the key events that make up this cycle?
2. Do these events always happen in the same order?
3. What is that order?
4. Does each iteration of the cycle have to include every event?
Just my two pips. Did anyone watch the video I posted here a while ago? Here's another one from the same movie. If anyone here finds themselves going around in circles looking for cycles: they may want to consider Sol's advice in this clip:
"There will be no order; only chaos."
Back to my little corner....
For example suppose I'm researching cyclic market behavior and I find four events that seem to happen in a certain order; A B C and D. Any of those four events could be considered the "start" or "end" of the cycle. Two iterations of the cycle could look like any of the following:
ABCDABCD
BCDABCDA
CDABCDAB
DABCDABC
Those are all the same cycle, each with a different starting point.
Searchers for cycles may be better served by asking questions like,
1. What are the key events that make up this cycle?
2. Do these events always happen in the same order?
3. What is that order?
4. Does each iteration of the cycle have to include every event?
Just my two pips. Did anyone watch the video I posted here a while ago? Here's another one from the same movie. If anyone here finds themselves going around in circles looking for cycles
: they may want to consider Sol's advice in this clip:Inserted Video
"There will be no order; only chaos."
Back to my little corner....
- #799
- Dec 28, 2007 11:41pm Dec 28, 2007 11:41pm
I had a nice long blathering ,rambling Sizz special and my computer quit.. ( ok ok I fired it but I am letting it leave with dignity plus now no unemployment Phew! )
this is semi condensed and leaves out a few stories and some heelarious jokes and witty observations and some freestyle hip hop.
Lowell
Your fib was wrong(from how I would draw it) I looked at the and our tp1 is 1.6970-2. Am I wrong? if so great if not grand. If this is what you came up with after redrawing then yes I concur Dr Lowell. STAT. This slave cycle will complete for so it was written. If not I just got a big hole in my studies.
PASR This pair was screaming "buy me buy me" since yesterday on 4h between 8 and 16 hour depending on your experiance level. 1.6840 was first tp and I see more up which would lead me to the 1.6970 level. Look at D1 more up! more up now!!!
Interesting to point based on past fib I say growl growl we are bears but by doing a quick vhands PASR trade with it I am Bullish up to basically where we are at right now maybe 30 points higher and then I have no opinions until the market gives me one. I would probably be out right now. OK I lied that wasn't that interesting. Good luck getting THAT time back mwaahahha!
GBP/JPY big surprise eh? you really didn't need a fib to portent that move BUT in the context of the fib it wasn't confirmed. I see about 4 things that told me that was going to happen though. It would be 5 but my damn crystal ball broke... stupid mystical craftsmanship .Oldworld quality my a$$..
I scaled out to the larger tf's and anyone care to comment on what they see? I swear to toast no one say dur I see a head and shoulders dur...
what one of these monsters are we going to slice and dice? someone throw a pair out there. let get rolling.
I refuse to chart nzd/cad for personal reasons though so count me out on that one if we pick it. I will, however, do a kroner chart
I am also going to mark my charts up with pasr to show "co-inky-dinks"
Bobokus,
operating off the guiding principle that fibs show 100% accurate destination of price it wouldn't matter so much crosses would it? 5-10 pips is noise. IMO.
I take it you don't subscribe to this school of thought and use fibs like a guide from your entries in this thread, THAT, coupled with an assumed prior relationship with Skunny, your own thread on fibs, Skunny not being reluctant about throwing the concept right out there lead me to ask these questions:
1.) DO you subscribe( redundant but formal) to the assertion governing this thread( as I understand it) that the fib will predict the price move to a t 100% of the time if drawn properly AND there is a repeatable formula to draw said fib before action happens?
2.) If not why, as someone who is knowledgable enough to author a thread on fibs and trade mainly(solely?) off of them surely this method is this pinnacle of fibbery as it 100% accurately predicts price? Surely you have looked into this at the very latest in the begining of this thread no?
.3) if so, again why no mention( i have seen) of it?
word em up!
Sizz.
this is semi condensed and leaves out a few stories and some heelarious jokes and witty observations and some freestyle hip hop.
Lowell
Your fib was wrong(from how I would draw it) I looked at the and our tp1 is 1.6970-2. Am I wrong? if so great if not grand. If this is what you came up with after redrawing then yes I concur Dr Lowell. STAT. This slave cycle will complete for so it was written. If not I just got a big hole in my studies.
PASR This pair was screaming "buy me buy me" since yesterday on 4h between 8 and 16 hour depending on your experiance level. 1.6840 was first tp and I see more up which would lead me to the 1.6970 level. Look at D1 more up! more up now!!!
Interesting to point based on past fib I say growl growl we are bears but by doing a quick vhands PASR trade with it I am Bullish up to basically where we are at right now maybe 30 points higher and then I have no opinions until the market gives me one. I would probably be out right now. OK I lied that wasn't that interesting. Good luck getting THAT time back mwaahahha!
GBP/JPY big surprise eh? you really didn't need a fib to portent that move BUT in the context of the fib it wasn't confirmed.
I see about 4 things that told me that was going to happen though. It would be 5 but my damn crystal ball broke... stupid mystical craftsmanship .Oldworld quality my a$$.. I scaled out to the larger tf's and anyone care to comment on what they see? I swear to toast no one say dur I see a head and shoulders dur...
what one of these monsters are we going to slice and dice? someone throw a pair out there. let get rolling.
I refuse to chart nzd/cad for personal reasons though so count me out on that one if we pick it. I will, however, do a kroner chart
I am also going to mark my charts up with pasr to show "co-inky-dinks"
Bobokus,
operating off the guiding principle that fibs show 100% accurate destination of price it wouldn't matter so much crosses would it? 5-10 pips is noise. IMO.
I take it you don't subscribe to this school of thought and use fibs like a guide from your entries in this thread, THAT, coupled with an assumed prior relationship with Skunny, your own thread on fibs, Skunny not being reluctant about throwing the concept right out there lead me to ask these questions:
1.) DO you subscribe( redundant but formal) to the assertion governing this thread( as I understand it) that the fib will predict the price move to a t 100% of the time if drawn properly AND there is a repeatable formula to draw said fib before action happens?
2.) If not why, as someone who is knowledgable enough to author a thread on fibs and trade mainly(solely?) off of them surely this method is this pinnacle of fibbery as it 100% accurately predicts price? Surely you have looked into this at the very latest in the begining of this thread no?
.3) if so, again why no mention( i have seen) of it?
word em up!
Sizz.
- #800
- Dec 29, 2007 12:06am Dec 29, 2007 12:06am
Ayn rand AND Pi?
you aren't a Coffee house,clove smoking philosopher/english professor who is also a sarcastic atheist are you?? j/k
I am assuming it is Pi from the quotes and the subject of this movie in relation to this thread. It was the immediate association I came up with in the start of this thread
. If memory serves Max DOES figure it out it and it is a fib and then he partially lobotomizes himself and is happy again no? I think they used the stock market in that movie.
On cycles I think the nature of the question is this we have a cycle that starts and completes on say A now we don;t care if it is ABCDEFGA, ABD, AA etc.. we are just looking for A.
This is my conclusion from my study so far. I look for "A"in everything and every SEQUENCE not so much cycle I guess.
A is the alpha and omega of our sequence
Their are multiple sequences going on simultaneously
The sequences are stratified
each sequence can give clues to completion path of different strata or outright signal as they are all part of the same thing seen at different magnification
I could have multiple As in one strata in between just two A of a different strata or not... it all depends.
They are all different degrees of describing the same thing so you have to investigate to figure out whats shaking if it isn't clear off the jump.
that is how I am seeing it right now. My working theory.
Sizz.
you aren't a Coffee house,clove smoking philosopher/english professor who is also a sarcastic atheist are you??
j/kI am assuming it is Pi from the quotes and the subject of this movie in relation to this thread. It was the immediate association I came up with in the start of this thread
. If memory serves Max DOES figure it out it and it is a fib and then he partially lobotomizes himself and is happy again no? I think they used the stock market in that movie.
On cycles I think the nature of the question is this we have a cycle that starts and completes on say A now we don;t care if it is ABCDEFGA, ABD, AA etc.. we are just looking for A.
This is my conclusion from my study so far. I look for "A"in everything and every SEQUENCE not so much cycle I guess.
A is the alpha and omega of our sequence
Their are multiple sequences going on simultaneously
The sequences are stratified
each sequence can give clues to completion path of different strata or outright signal as they are all part of the same thing seen at different magnification
I could have multiple As in one strata in between just two A of a different strata or not... it all depends.
They are all different degrees of describing the same thing so you have to investigate to figure out whats shaking if it isn't clear off the jump.
that is how I am seeing it right now. My working theory.
Sizz.
I've seen a few posts about how important it is to find the "beginning" and "end" of a cylce. A cycle doesn't have a starting and ending point. That's why it's called a cycle.
For example suppose I'm researching cyclic market behavior and I find four events that seem to happen in a certain order; A B C and D. Any of those four events could be considered the "start" or "end" of the cycle. Two iterations of the cycle could look like any of the following:
ABCDABCD
BCDABCDA
CDABCDAB
DABCDABC
Those are all the same cycle, each with a different starting point.
Searchers for cycles may be better served by asking questions like,
1. What are the key events that make up this cycle?
2. Do these events always happen in the same order?
3. What is that order?
4. Does each iteration of the cycle have to include every event?
Just my two pips. Did anyone watch the video I posted here a while ago? Here's another one from the same movie. If anyone here finds themselves going around in circles looking for cycles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIlMakajqS4
"There will be no order; only chaos."
Back to my little corner....