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  • #5,621
  • Mar 6, 2023 5:28am Mar 6, 2023 5:28am
Target for Monday! Mostly happen on Mondays, so today is Monday!
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  • #5,622
  • Mar 6, 2023 5:28am Mar 6, 2023 5:28am
Quoting FulMargnAlch
{quote} The last piece of the puzzle. But more work is to be done. Thanks as always.
I'm watching NZD USD drop but sayignto myself where is the intent? Perhaps I'm not getting it. Over on Rockypoint's thread it's laid out and clear and quite simple really and I get it. What am I missing if I have to guess intent from something that I don;t know when or where? 4hr candle is over I miss the intent?
  • #5,623
  • Mar 6, 2023 5:30am Mar 6, 2023 5:30am
Quoting Ihlas
Target for Monday! Mostly happen on Mondays, so today is Monday! {image}
I'm sorry not getting you. Who's target or what target are you reffering to?
  • #5,624
  • Mar 6, 2023 5:31am Mar 6, 2023 5:31am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} I'm sorry not getting you. Who's target or what target are you reffering to?
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  • #5,625
  • Mar 6, 2023 5:52am Mar 6, 2023 5:52am
Quoting Ihlas
{quote} Horizontal black-lined box
Oh, I see the hint that I missed now.
  • #5,626
  • Edited 6:37am Mar 6, 2023 6:04am | Edited 6:37am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} I'm watching NZD USD drop but sayignto myself where is the intent? Perhaps I'm not getting it. Over on Rockypoint's thread it's laid out and clear and quite simple really and I get it. What am I missing if I have to guess intent from something that I don;t know when or where? 4hr candle is over I miss the intent?
Hi FWR, read my post carefully pls,

Quoting BWilliam
The way I use the ADR indicator is described in post #5541. Use whatever method that you are familiar and comfortable with to come to the required answer as the trading day progresses with price registering expansion over time. At some point during the day, you can say with confidence and clarity whether high or low of yesterday's adr will more likely be broken is the moment WHEN you know the intradays market intent. After some practice, you can determine this intent as early as you possibly can. This break that may happen later in...
If you prefer Rockypoint's method so be it for you.
Someone else prefer Laura Road map so be it for him.
Another person is a naked chart expert pa, so be it for him. Pete prefers his method.

I don't recommend my method because people prefer their own pet method. Which is good, there's no better way. Ofc mine is the best for me. But this is not under strategy section.

The point I try to deliver is post #5490 pls read carefully which I addressed something else, ie h4 intent that's missing in all methods. It is this common missing ground that's missing that I am pointing to. You trade your preferred method without realising the underlying principle in post #5490.

I was not recommending a new method.

I hope this helps explain better.

Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} I'm watching NZD USD drop but sayignto myself where is the intent? Perhaps I'm not getting it. Over on Rockypoint's thread it's laid out and clear and quite simple really and I get it.
Ask Rockypoint.

Cheers
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  • #5,627
  • Mar 6, 2023 6:13am Mar 6, 2023 6:13am
Quoting FocusWinReal
4hr candle is over I miss the intent?
As to this specific question, the answer is yes, you struggle to get 50pips minimum move. Price move 50pips minimum because of h4 intent. And not because of whatever indicators, price action, candlestick pattern or whatever. My post clearly explain this part. Pls read again carefully. And check it out real time, confirm for yourself if it's true.

My posts don't indulge in indicators, price action, candle patterns or whatever not method/strategy. Cheers
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  • #5,628
  • Mar 6, 2023 6:28am Mar 6, 2023 6:28am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} I'm watching NZD USD drop but sayignto myself where is the intent? Perhaps I'm not getting it. Over on Rockypoint's thread it's laid out and clear and quite simple really and I get it. What am I missing if I have to guess intent from something that I don;t know when or where? 4hr candle is over I miss the intent?
Another way to explain is, when you use Rockypoint's method and you add on this extra criteria of minimum 50pips move, then perhaps you get the point.

Try add 50pips minimum criteria to Laura roadmap,
Add 50pips minimum criteria to level2 volume data.
Try any of your preferred method and add 50pips minimum criteria, and you get the point.

Cheers
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  • #5,629
  • Mar 6, 2023 6:33am Mar 6, 2023 6:33am
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Uk Open
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  • #5,630
  • Mar 6, 2023 6:53am Mar 6, 2023 6:53am
BW thanks for dropping by.

I have read your responses and perhaps I was mistaken thinking you were revealing a bit of your method without clear cut simple terms of understanding.

Ok so it's 4hr intent but any way to pick that up is ok as long as the ADR will allow a move of 50 or so.

BY the way I didn't suggerst any other methods are better and that is silly for anyone to think that. It's more about clear and concise communication and demonstration - leading by example etc.

Cheers BW.

Take care.
  • #5,631
  • Edited 7:19am Mar 6, 2023 7:00am | Edited 7:19am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} I'm watching NZD USD drop but sayignto myself where is the intent? Perhaps I'm not getting it. Over on Rockypoint's thread it's laid out and clear and quite simple really and I get it. What am I missing if I have to guess intent from something that I don;t know when or where? 4hr candle is over I miss the intent?
I'm not looking most of the time at NU and for me its not a clean set-up. Perhaps, if you only trade NU you can certainly see and bet on that 50 pips swing. BW is the best person to talk about it. Pardon me, I'm no expert.
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  • #5,632
  • Mar 6, 2023 7:02am Mar 6, 2023 7:02am
Quoting FocusWinReal
Ok so it's 4hr intent but any way to pick that up is ok as long as the ADR will allow a move of 50 or so.
Read one of my posts that strongly recommended this specific exercise for one month. Cheers
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...2#post14347422
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  • #5,633
  • Mar 6, 2023 7:15am Mar 6, 2023 7:15am
Quoting FulMargnAlch
{quote} I'm not looking most of the time at NU and for me its not a clean set-up. Perhaps, if you only trade NU you can certainly see and bet on that 50 pips swing. BW is the best person to talk about it. Pardon me, I'm no expert.
Hi FMA, NU don't qualify because of this post.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post14347449
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  • #5,634
  • Edited 8:00am Mar 6, 2023 7:17am | Edited 8:00am
Range Box at top of Chart
Individual Range Bars at the Bottom
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  • #5,635
  • Mar 6, 2023 7:30am Mar 6, 2023 7:30am
Quoting FocusWinReal
BW thanks for dropping by. I have read your responses and perhaps I was mistaken thinking you were revealing a bit of your method without clear cut simple terms of understanding. Ok so it's 4hr intent but any way to pick that up is ok as long as the ADR will allow a move of 50 or so. BY the way I didn't suggerst any other methods are better and that is silly for anyone to think that. It's more about clear and concise communication and demonstration - leading by example etc. Cheers BW. Take care.
Hi FWR,

Simple question before you start diving into this "4hr intent" concept, which seems to be "missing in all methods": when does your trading day start in your trading platform?

I think this is important because some of the brokers have it at GMT, some at GMT +1, GMT+2, so on and so forth. This means that the way we perceive/see the 4h activity of the market is not identical and the differences between charts/levels etc. could be significant. In my opinion, we can speak about the "4hr intent of market" only if the whole market is looking at the same thing in the same time. But obviously this is not the case.

Cheers,
B

PS Btw, obviously the same issue stands for all TFs above 4h
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  • #5,636
  • Mar 6, 2023 7:47am Mar 6, 2023 7:47am
Quoting bfx17
{quote} Hi FWR, Simple question before you start diving into this "4hr intent" concept, which seems to be "missing in all methods": when does your trading day start in your trading platform? I think this is important because some of the brokers have it at GMT, some at GMT +1, GMT+2, so on and so forth. This means that the way we perceive/see the 4h activity of the market is not identical and the differences between charts/levels etc. could be significant. In my opinion, we can speak about the "4hr intent of market" only if the whole market is looking...
You got a point. So why don't the person who make his post make an accompanying note what his reference gmt is?
Find out with whatever your gmt, just declare your gmt+? in your post.

More important is to declare what favourite method strategy you use ?
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  • #5,637
  • Mar 6, 2023 8:04am Mar 6, 2023 8:04am
Quoting bfx17
{quote} Hi FWR, Simple question before you start diving into this "4hr intent" concept, which seems to be "missing in all methods": when does your trading day start in your trading platform? I think this is important because some of the brokers have it at GMT, some at GMT +1, GMT+2, so on and so forth. This means that the way we perceive/see the 4h activity of the market is not identical and the differences between charts/levels etc. could be significant. In my opinion, we can speak about the "4hr intent of market" only if the whole market is looking...
Hi Bfx,

GMt +2 it is. Good point you raised. That's it we are dealing with different info. Not sure if I'm deep diving on the topic or not just trying to work out what I could possibly do with it. Some charts detailing how would be good.

Cheers...
  • #5,638
  • Mar 6, 2023 8:26am Mar 6, 2023 8:26am
Quoting FulMargnAlch
{quote} I'm not looking most of the time at NU and for me its not a clean set-up. Perhaps, if you only trade NU you can certainly see and bet on that 50 pips swing. BW is the best person to talk about it. Pardon me, I'm no expert.
No worries and thanks FMA. Was just trying to interpret intent when the London push was bearish. Your comment prior led me to believe you were proficient perhaps at determining 4hr intent. I wasn't trading.
Cheers...
  • #5,639
  • Edited 8:57am Mar 6, 2023 8:38am | Edited 8:57am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} Hi Bfx, GMt +2 it is. Good point you raised. That's it we are dealing with different info. Not sure if I'm deep diving on the topic or not just trying to work out what I could possibly do with it. Some charts detailing how would be good. Cheers...
It's best to have GMT +2 charts, imho, avoids Sunday Candles. Based on NY Close.

Although I didn't define it as Market Intent, but I would refer to it as momentum. It would take momentum to shift markets to break previous levels

whether they be DH, DL, PDH, PDL, DO, PDO, WO, MO, PWO, PMO and structure levels. Even breaks by a few pips at & around Market Opens.

This is the watering hole for all traders, from where they will make their next move.

IMO primarily for the GBP pairs this would be the UK Open, largest volumes entering at this time and of course the NY Open.
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  • #5,640
  • Mar 6, 2023 8:56am Mar 6, 2023 8:56am
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} The point I try to deliver is post #5490 pls read carefully which I addressed something else, ie h4 intent that's missing in all methods. {quote} Ask Rockypoint. Cheers
I went through your posts a couple of times, still don't get it properly. The value intent is quite clear which is 50 pips for the next expansion and that should be within the ADR (20). What about the directional intent? How do you find and know the directional intent in H4? ( as the H4 intent and H4 candles form the secret sauce). Please guide us to see the intent that you mentioned in the following chart.

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