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Quoting ffpa
{quote} Ok i suppose you mean ATR levels (right) and Salmon MA.
I'm not using ATR, I'm using emaX high and emaX low to get the distance. What the heck is Salmon MA I don't know. Another 1000+ version how to average the average . Not interested.
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If look at the chart then I can say that I don't know where the price will go next.
It looks like big payer is in the distribution phase.

As for me all that guesswork make no sense and is just a waste of time. It doesn't matter. All we need is to check the market conditions live.
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For example I can't understand how bad do you need to know math to trade EU on forex
if you create simple excel sheet and create there 2 columns compare conditions on forex and on crypto then you will be surprised hard.
But who cares yes? Math is for weak haha
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As I said: guesswork and waiting for miracle is not a trading. It is gambling, bullshit, call it whatever you want.

Example.

We were waiting for some "EU drop" because of news of some other shit. And...

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And nothing happened. BTW this is 15m tf, and the "distance" is 0.11% haha

Meanwhile I posted the screen WHAT TO TRADE on CRYPTO.

And
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+3.49%

IMMEDIATELY

And sorry for you "guys hate math" but:

1. APT has 0.5% distance ON 1 min TF (when EU has 0.11 on 15m, that mean it is 0.01% on 1m)
2. APT gained 3.49%, where EU has emmm... 0.11%? If you lucky? OOkay
2. Min lot size for APT is 0.06$ (6 cents!!!!!) where min lot size on forex is 100$

Are you F crazy trading forex?

Now. Few words about math.

Math is math.

There is no need of using exponential moving average. It make no sense. It is average of the average!
Move you average less quality you have.

For example people ask me why I'm not using ATR but using 6 high and 6 low? Because ATR has very strange formula inside. I didn't get WHY the heck I have to use it?
I want to know what was the highest point for X candles back and what was the lowest. Yes or yes? Yes.
So why the heck I need all that average the average the average the average? What for? To get "best average" result or what?

Ok, then you tell me "I'm using RSI 14".
F...k. That is funny.

WHY THE HECK 14? What is 14? Why you think that 14 candles back is good? Why not 15? Why not 13? Why 14?

okay, there are 60 seconds in the minute. 60 minutes in the hour. So why the heck you all are using EMA200? WHAT THE F is 200?

You all with very extremely serious faces copy-paste repeat bullshit day by day. If I ask you you can't tell me WHY. Because you don't know. You think this is true, but this is fake told many many times that's why you think it is true.

My advice: If you want to survive in this game then criticise everything. Don't trust anyone (exept RickM, he is strange - he teach for free haha)!
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[quote=ryuryu;14282956]{quote} I'm not using ATR, I'm using emaX high and emaX low to get the distance. What the heck is Salmon MA I don't know. Another 1000+ version how to average the average . Not interested. {image} If look at the chart then I can say that I don't know where the price will go next. It looks like big payer is in the distribution phase. As for me all that guesswork make no sense and is just a waste of time. It doesn't matter. All we need is to check the market conditions live. {image}For example I can't understand how bad do you need to know math to trade EU on forex if you create simple excel sheet and create there 2 columns compare conditions on forex and on crypto then you will be surprised hard. But who cares yes? Math is for weak haha[/kute]

I have read you use either ema 6 H/L bands OR ATR. So i am confused - you do not use ATR ?

Salmon MA is MA colored with color called " Salmon ". In this case 100 or 200, was not sure. BTW I just realized I use blue light blocker - and it may be " Salmon " only art my desktop
Quoting ryuryu
WHY THE HECK 14? What is 14?
developer chose 14 as half of moon cycle. I DO NOT JOKE.
Quoting ryuryu
We were waiting for some "EU drop" because of news of some other shit.
Personally i trade EU because i like it. The manipulation observed with EU last month was to make me BUY EU. Therefore I SELL EU.

--

However i like 2% better than 1%. Therefore i am very interested to play crypto with your methodology and started decyphering your posts. Your method evolved and i am not sure if i get it all correct.

Step by step.
Quoting ffpa
{quote} Personally i trade EU because i like it. The manipulation observed with EU last month was to make me BUY EU. Therefore I SELL EU. -- However i like 2% better than 1%. Therefore i am very interested to play crypto with your methodology and started decyphering your posts. Your method evolved and i am not sure if i get it all correct. Step by step.
It works well, just select the pairs that are moving every day (which is normally only a few and often only for short periods) and look to fade high volume bullish blow outs and the profits can be 3-5 times more than you can earn with EURUSD.
Of course that could mean a large draw down which is frightening so take a loss quick urgently.

All you need is 10 USDT with Bybit to see whether Crypto is your thing or not.

A Saturday or Sunday night last year up to September was normally spend trading Crypto with the 3 Amigo’s.
I used to kind of have a battle with Ryan to see who could get the best trading result by days end. Some weekends I could beat him but mostly Ryan wiped me off the floor much to my annoyance.
The battle may resume
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
Quoting RickM
{quote} It works well, just select the pairs that are moving every day (which is normally only a few and often only for short periods) and look to fade high volume bullish blow outs and the profits can be 3-5 times more than you can earn with EURUSD. Of course that could mean a large draw down is frightening so take a loss quick. All you need is 10 USDT with Bybit yo see whether Crypto is your thing or not. A Saturday or Sunday night last year up to September was normally spend trading Crypto with the 3 Amigo’s. I used to kind of have a battle with...
I have already altered my routine thanks to you guys. However it is not easy for me to reconstruct your trading tools. I will get to that point - step by step.
Quoting ffpa
{quote} I have already altered my routine thanks to you guys. However it is not easy for me to reconstruct your trading tools. I will get to that point - step by step.
There is two issues.

Reason 1 - I faced trader burnout trying to trade Crypto with Ryuryu and Nam…… on Bybit while also trading EURUSD & S&P 500 on Future platforms.

One had to give but the choice was made easier for me by reason two.

Reason 2 - Equity security due the many Crypto brokers going broke or refusing payouts out of your own bloody account. Ask anyone who had their funds with FTX how they are travelling. This became an issues for Amigo 2 and 3.
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Quoting RickM
{quote} Reason 2 .
In such case, how do you intend to neutralize that risk yourself ? There is always a medicine.
Quoting ffpa
{quote} In such case, how do you intend to neutralize that risk yourself ? There is always a medicine.
One solution performed by some crypto junkies is to store your coin in a Cold Wallet, then transfer over to your account at start of the trading day. After you have cleaned up (always need to believe it), transfer back to cold wallet later that day.
Fees associated YES, but at present it’s tiny.
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Quoting ffpa
I have read you use either ema 6 H/L bands OR ATR. So i am confused - you do not use ATR ?
I'm not using ATR in my algo trading. But inside some indicators I'm using atr formulas, just because I'm lazy arse and sometimes it doesn't matter much what formula you are using to get some average results. So why not. I said that you can use any tool you like to measure the distance. You can use ATR, you can use distance between some moving average data and so on. It doesn't matter much. Use what you like.

Quoting ffpa
{quote} Personally i trade EU because i like it. The manipulation observed with EU last month was to make me BUY EU. Therefore I SELL EU.
This is unprofessional gambling approach. Trading is math. You have to reduce your risk and improve your returns. You have to calculate every cent. It is not possible to win because "I like it". You don't have positive expectation against the broker so you have to compensate that as hard as you can.
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Quoting RickM
A Saturday or Sunday night last year up to September was normally spend trading Crypto with the 3 Amigo’s. I used to kind of have a battle with Ryan to see who could get the best trading result by days end. Some weekends I could beat him but mostly Ryan wiped me off the floor much to my annoyance. The battle may resume
Haha, that was great! We can resume that game. I can create auto results dashboard and we can see the stats live. What positions was opened and so on. What PnL gained. We can have some initial settings like 10$ balance and then we check daily PnL.

I welcome every trader to the trading battle, so we can have much fun together
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+1.72% on XRP today

we are continue to find good entries using Volume Delta approach


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It was about the same signal, but it gained +16.23%

Why? Because of the distance! it is VERY important not to look only at the asset volume, but also check min lot size in $ and check the distance too!
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Quoting RickM
{quote} One solution performed by some crypto junkies is to store your coin in a Cold Wallet, then transfer over to your account at start of the trading day. After you have cleaned up (always need to believe it), transfer back to cold wallet later that day. Fees associated YES, but at present it’s tiny.
RickM i just wanted to ask about such routine. Thanks a lot.
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} But inside some indicators I'm using atr formulas
Thank you for clarification. It is EMAX + ATR, i found it in the beginning of the thread.
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} This is unprofessional gambling approach.
Ryan it is something different. EURUSD is the only shit i want to step in everyday to stay in touch with "the tone of market" - i decided i need it to follow stocks, commodities.

Example - it was very probable yesterday on EU this grab under Asian Low will go up, EU is the slave of NEWS and before CPI it has do do something " in the meantime ". Like inducing people. So for me such swings is not a problem.

BUT
I have some gambling problems. Whole week i keep discpline. And then ... it only takes 5 minutes of inpatience to ruin it.
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Haha, that was great! We can resume that game. I can create auto results dashboard and we can see the stats live. What positions was opened and so on. What PnL gained. We can have some initial settings like 10$ balance and then we check daily PnL. I welcome every trader to the trading battle, so we can have much fun together
This would be fun. I can join soon. I need to organize workspace for this.
Quoting ffpa
{quote} RickM i just wanted to ask about such routine. Thanks a lot.
Scary

Unlike a bank, if you push the transfer button to move the funds to your cold wallet and you get one data number wrong - its forever lost in that's magical space of no where. There is no way to get it back.

And what if you forget your key to access your wallet?

I avoided this headache so decided not to go this way, Ryan is the man to ask on this matter.
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Quoting RickM
{quote} Scary Unlike a bank, if you push the transfer button to move the funds to your cold wallet and you get one data number wrong - its forever lost in that's magical space of no where. There is no way to get it back. And what if you forget your key to access your wallet? I avoided this headache so decided not to go this way, Ryan is the man to ask on this matter.
Understood.
Quoting ffpa
Example - it was very probable yesterday on EU this grab under Asian Low will go up, EU is the slave of NEWS and before CPI it has do do something " in the meantime ". Like inducing people.
Yes I fully understand you. But "it was very probable" is not what we are doing here. It make no sense. What it for? You know your brains is like a CPU. You fill it with shit data and it start to waste you CPU time for that. It is just a waste of time. No sense, no logic, no math, but spent a lot of brain CPU time for that. With zero output.

For example I just made +0.9195% on GALA. Why? Because my dashboard that calculates live data stream told me that it was very good opportunity to go long with that shitcoin.
Fast in, fast out. Money in the pocket. No f prediction, no fancy colored lines, no poker face and fairy tales about support and resistance, no stories about "trillion forex market". Trading is a job. Just a job. You have to learn a lot. But not that "forex fairy tales" shit, but real things.

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