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Hi Leon.
Thanks for for write up and giving me a chance to clarify few thing and having hear to hear talk with you. I do want to talk to you about it for very long time, but don't know where to start afraid, it may offended you.
But since you've open up the door for this conversation, I'm happy to respond.
Let me begin :
You sentence and my reply.
Hey Pat,
I am not going to beat around the bush here. I am your buddy but here is what I think.
You live in a fantasy world.
I recall our chat a while ago about your connection to Jeffreys Bay and surfing.
The names you quoted seemed too good to be true and when I did some investigation I realized that you quoted it directly off a website on Jeffreys bay.
REPLY
Yes, I does that, search. As I’m no surfer and trying to create friendly conversation with you, thus making an effort to write some familiar subject to begin with, even I know nothing about surfing. I named of surfing places, for which I believe can start some conversation with you as seeing you as my role model trader to follow.
Just like when I started a conversation with Mr Thomas from St Joseph MO. When I converse with him on BBQ of Kansas City. Off course I have to google it for the info, so I can have a nice conversation with him. Making an effort to be nice to people aren’t easy…lol
Just like having conversation with Waveskie. I never been to Salcombe, but still able to connect with him places to visit. WHY is that ?. It is courtesy to knowledgeable about other interest to have a decent conversation with.
It is an effort- genuine effort as gesture of friendship.
But I guess you never appreciate the effort tho'
LEON
Your latest pics on your weekend fishing trip are totally unreal.
I am a deep-sea skipper and angler.
You have one outboard motor which no fool will go out to sea with,
REPLY
I never said went to “deep sea fishing” here. In Malaysia the territorial water are shallow, further to the sea is full of China and US War Vessel we have to dealt with. Did you see all photos from the boat with land in sight - we are near shore.
I'm sure with your experience , wouldn't missed that, unless you just want to be selective on what "YOU WANT TO SEE" in the photos.
Our small boat is for near shore fishing.
Enough to bring some excitement for the weekend fishing.
BTW - The big RED fish is not ours, someone else fish.... ( Hope you don't bring that as an issue here)
LEON
Your rod stands differ on every pic.
REPLY
I’m not the only angler on that boat. 8 people having same rod just for photography purposes. Common Bro , Spare me the benefit of the doubt.
Seriously Leon. 8 rod same model , same design ....
LEON
You are pulling a little skip which will not be allowed if you go to sea.
REPLY
Skip are allowed near shore. I don’t see an issue there as we hop to few atol or near small island using small skip.We are not in open sea.
LEON
You launch on a cloudy overcast day that looks somewhere out of Alaska.
REPLY
Boat leave goes out early before the sunrise, you know that, that’s why cloudy and dark as early morning.
If you are on fishing trip, you have to leave early. Unless you're doing it differently in SA
By noon, it is bright sunlight too late to find good fishing spot.
LEON
Yet crystal clear beach where you say " Leave me here" looks somewhere out of the Bahamas.
REPLY
That particular photo wasn’t mine and I never claimed it was mine. I like that particular wording.
The mood of not wanting to leave the beaches is exaggerating.
I add it to give vibrant to the whole story.
But that’s how bright is the sunshine during the day in Malaysia
Malaysia are at Equator, same as Carrabian. I'm not sure you know how bright the sun is during the noon.
You can come to Malaysia, and look at the sky before sunrise , during the noon and before sunset.
It is anytime better than Bahamas. Bring your sunglass too.
Come on Pat.
You are not dealing with fools here.
REPLY : I know that. Unless you want to pick up every single pieces of evident and put me on trail in Tribulation Court.
You are a brilliant trader and stick to that.
You build trust by being real.
REPLY
I don't consider myself as brilliant or genius, Unless/until I can produce 100 more traders who can trade at PAR or BETTER than me.
Then mission accomplish.
I'm real. All my trade call are real , not a single day when I made trade call and not responsible for it.
If it is wrong, I admitted it with proof of SL.
If in profit, I will show it, but sometimes, I don't coz everyone knows where my TP is when the chart I published.
Cheers.
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OK Leon
Thing to ponder. Two way traffic.
Let me enlighten you with some tips.
There are posting that harmless to others.
That will not effect amount of money , paying subscription et cetera.
When I post my weekends activities, it doesn’t involved asking other to pay or take same risk as mine. No money involve, just passing read. Waste time.
Doesn't hurt anyone feeling, no photos of children or indecency.
Some photos used are to carry some additional content to the story.
Example when Waveskie post Buckingham Palace as his residence, it is harmless posting, as it doesn’t get other into paying or committing anything fraud
financially. I'm not picking it as an issue.
I posted to Waveskie, that I was waiting for him at Creek End ( in UK) for a drink- photo from the Net. I wan't there. !
No harm or any issue there, as those are harmless posting. Waveskie didn't even accused me cheating or trying to scam him.
Another one - When Jolita posted her pink car, it doesn’t matter, if that’s hers or anyone else.
Leon,
Why make a fuss of it. ?
Like you dig a nose in front of other people and shows your finding. Insignificant. And what do you trying to achieve ? To question my credibility ?
Remember those are what I termed as harmless posting. “No Animals Were Harmed and no trader losses money by making those harmless posting"
NOW
We got one STEP UP.
The most dangerous posting is “ Harmful Posting”.
When one is accreditation in FF with RED Badge and has been posting reliable set up , posting a passing trade call without giving much thought to it is dangerous.
You’ve posted this earlier ( few hours ago- before someone making tea).
That's dangerous from high celebrity trader like you giving trade call without giving any reason/set up SL/ TP.
If any other trader made the call - I just don't care as they are way below your pay grades. You are HIGH FLYER.
Just imagine your dedicate Newbie follow your signal and taken up this trade.
What would you answer to them if it goes wrong. They don't have clue that you've made dubious trade call.
It does involves money, their hard earned money you’re playing with.
And you let them failed as if nothing happen.
This is not the first time you made such a passing trade call, It goes wrong, you went silent.
I wanted to write to you about this ( not in public like this - prefer in Private).
But you've given me the opportunity to respond your posting in Public. It's fair deal tho.
When I post my trade, I will put SL and TP so others will know the risk they are following me.
This include set up and reason for entry. Minimum set up suffice for Newbie to understand.
I believe making trade call is harmful post if you are not careful with that.
Learn to differentiate the Harmless vs Harmful Posting.
When you point one finger to other, three are pointing back at you. Three is more than ONE.
Please be responsible with your trade call posting, as whenever you post, at least 20 thumbs ups on every post, something which very rare in FF.
So you know the magnitude of follower that follow your signal and if it turned sour, it is just too bad for them. It does involved someone money.
You never know unsuspecting newbie just follow your trade call blindly and losses all his life saving.
Such a harmful act compare to weekend fishing trip posting, or fake watch posting.
Take your time and think about it.
You are a exceptionally brilliant trader and please post responsibly.
You build trust by being responsible.
I wish you all the Best Leon.
Sincerely
PAT
(Not worth reading by others) - Please skip this post.
Hi Leon.
Thanks for for write up and giving me a chance to clarify few thing and having hear to hear talk with you. I do want to talk to you about it for very long time, but don't know where to start afraid, it may offended you.
But since you've open up the door for this conversation, I'm happy to respond.
Let me begin :
You sentence and my reply.
Hey Pat,
I am not going to beat around the bush here. I am your buddy but here is what I think.
You live in a fantasy world.
I recall our chat a while ago about your connection to Jeffreys Bay and surfing.
The names you quoted seemed too good to be true and when I did some investigation I realized that you quoted it directly off a website on Jeffreys bay.
REPLY
Yes, I does that, search. As I’m no surfer and trying to create friendly conversation with you, thus making an effort to write some familiar subject to begin with, even I know nothing about surfing. I named of surfing places, for which I believe can start some conversation with you as seeing you as my role model trader to follow.
Just like when I started a conversation with Mr Thomas from St Joseph MO. When I converse with him on BBQ of Kansas City. Off course I have to google it for the info, so I can have a nice conversation with him. Making an effort to be nice to people aren’t easy…lol
Just like having conversation with Waveskie. I never been to Salcombe, but still able to connect with him places to visit. WHY is that ?. It is courtesy to knowledgeable about other interest to have a decent conversation with.
It is an effort- genuine effort as gesture of friendship.
But I guess you never appreciate the effort tho'
LEON
Your latest pics on your weekend fishing trip are totally unreal.
I am a deep-sea skipper and angler.
You have one outboard motor which no fool will go out to sea with,
REPLY
I never said went to “deep sea fishing” here. In Malaysia the territorial water are shallow, further to the sea is full of China and US War Vessel we have to dealt with. Did you see all photos from the boat with land in sight - we are near shore.
I'm sure with your experience , wouldn't missed that, unless you just want to be selective on what "YOU WANT TO SEE" in the photos.
Our small boat is for near shore fishing.
Enough to bring some excitement for the weekend fishing.
BTW - The big RED fish is not ours, someone else fish.... ( Hope you don't bring that as an issue here)
LEON
Your rod stands differ on every pic.
REPLY
I’m not the only angler on that boat. 8 people having same rod just for photography purposes. Common Bro , Spare me the benefit of the doubt.
Seriously Leon. 8 rod same model , same design ....
LEON
You are pulling a little skip which will not be allowed if you go to sea.
REPLY
Skip are allowed near shore. I don’t see an issue there as we hop to few atol or near small island using small skip.We are not in open sea.
LEON
You launch on a cloudy overcast day that looks somewhere out of Alaska.
REPLY
Boat leave goes out early before the sunrise, you know that, that’s why cloudy and dark as early morning.
If you are on fishing trip, you have to leave early. Unless you're doing it differently in SA
By noon, it is bright sunlight too late to find good fishing spot.
LEON
Yet crystal clear beach where you say " Leave me here" looks somewhere out of the Bahamas.
REPLY
That particular photo wasn’t mine and I never claimed it was mine. I like that particular wording.
The mood of not wanting to leave the beaches is exaggerating.
I add it to give vibrant to the whole story.
But that’s how bright is the sunshine during the day in Malaysia
Malaysia are at Equator, same as Carrabian. I'm not sure you know how bright the sun is during the noon.
You can come to Malaysia, and look at the sky before sunrise , during the noon and before sunset.
It is anytime better than Bahamas. Bring your sunglass too.
Come on Pat.
You are not dealing with fools here.
REPLY : I know that. Unless you want to pick up every single pieces of evident and put me on trail in Tribulation Court.
You are a brilliant trader and stick to that.
You build trust by being real.
REPLY
I don't consider myself as brilliant or genius, Unless/until I can produce 100 more traders who can trade at PAR or BETTER than me.
Then mission accomplish.
I'm real. All my trade call are real , not a single day when I made trade call and not responsible for it.
If it is wrong, I admitted it with proof of SL.
If in profit, I will show it, but sometimes, I don't coz everyone knows where my TP is when the chart I published.
Cheers.
...........................................................................................................................................................................................
OK Leon
Thing to ponder. Two way traffic.
Let me enlighten you with some tips.
There are posting that harmless to others.
That will not effect amount of money , paying subscription et cetera.
When I post my weekends activities, it doesn’t involved asking other to pay or take same risk as mine. No money involve, just passing read. Waste time.
Doesn't hurt anyone feeling, no photos of children or indecency.
Some photos used are to carry some additional content to the story.
Example when Waveskie post Buckingham Palace as his residence, it is harmless posting, as it doesn’t get other into paying or committing anything fraud
financially. I'm not picking it as an issue.
I posted to Waveskie, that I was waiting for him at Creek End ( in UK) for a drink- photo from the Net. I wan't there. !
No harm or any issue there, as those are harmless posting. Waveskie didn't even accused me cheating or trying to scam him.
Another one - When Jolita posted her pink car, it doesn’t matter, if that’s hers or anyone else.
Leon,
Why make a fuss of it. ?
Like you dig a nose in front of other people and shows your finding. Insignificant. And what do you trying to achieve ? To question my credibility ?
Remember those are what I termed as harmless posting. “No Animals Were Harmed and no trader losses money by making those harmless posting"
NOW
We got one STEP UP.
The most dangerous posting is “ Harmful Posting”.
When one is accreditation in FF with RED Badge and has been posting reliable set up , posting a passing trade call without giving much thought to it is dangerous.
You’ve posted this earlier ( few hours ago- before someone making tea).
That's dangerous from high celebrity trader like you giving trade call without giving any reason/set up SL/ TP.
If any other trader made the call - I just don't care as they are way below your pay grades. You are HIGH FLYER.
Just imagine your dedicate Newbie follow your signal and taken up this trade.
What would you answer to them if it goes wrong. They don't have clue that you've made dubious trade call.
It does involves money, their hard earned money you’re playing with.
And you let them failed as if nothing happen.
This is not the first time you made such a passing trade call, It goes wrong, you went silent.
I wanted to write to you about this ( not in public like this - prefer in Private).
But you've given me the opportunity to respond your posting in Public. It's fair deal tho.
When I post my trade, I will put SL and TP so others will know the risk they are following me.
This include set up and reason for entry. Minimum set up suffice for Newbie to understand.
I believe making trade call is harmful post if you are not careful with that.
Learn to differentiate the Harmless vs Harmful Posting.
When you point one finger to other, three are pointing back at you. Three is more than ONE.
Please be responsible with your trade call posting, as whenever you post, at least 20 thumbs ups on every post, something which very rare in FF.
So you know the magnitude of follower that follow your signal and if it turned sour, it is just too bad for them. It does involved someone money.
You never know unsuspecting newbie just follow your trade call blindly and losses all his life saving.
Such a harmful act compare to weekend fishing trip posting, or fake watch posting.
Take your time and think about it.
You are a exceptionally brilliant trader and please post responsibly.
You build trust by being responsible.
I wish you all the Best Leon.
Sincerely
PAT
I come from the future.
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