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  • #4,621
  • Oct 17, 2021 1:39am Oct 17, 2021 1:39am
Quoting Masterrmind
Post 1 I have added a section towards the end of Post 1 which will be used to list those traders deemed to be posting biased promotional material to this thread which is not backed up by credible sources. If your name forms part of that list it means you must stop the way you post material. Friendly reminders will be provided to the offender after which if such activity continues the poster will be removed from posting here. Masterrmind ........
-And if someone is erroneously targeted? For example, I was suspected and even accused of being a shill when I initially started posting here. I have no affiliation with any firm or broker, so...
  • #4,622
  • Oct 17, 2021 3:06am Oct 17, 2021 3:06am
Some first hand experience with FTMO:

My current prop firm (EnFoid) is still under their endless jurisdiction change and MFF needs a couple more months to put cTrader in life so I ordered 200k FTMO challenge

Payment was credited almost instantly (within a minute) and confirmed on their pages, challenge account credentials received a few seconds afterwards. Absolutely flawless

I was lucky to meet the profit target within the first day (not taking any insane risk just a bit more aggressive on the Polkadot expected rise combined with a US30 Friday move). The online dashboard is a bit delayed (few minutes) so not a good idea to rely on what permitted loss it shows but that was expected and not a big deal

Now trading small lots to meet the 10 days objective. Will keep you posted about my experience with the next steps
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #4,623
  • Oct 17, 2021 4:43am Oct 17, 2021 4:43am
Are there any real (remote) FX prop firms around (not talking about Maverick FX, because you pay a lot for their courses before you can start), where they want you to win (and not to fail and pay for tryouts from those fake FX prop firms, because they are most a kind of Ponzi scheme only and also have no license at all) ?
  • #4,624
  • Oct 17, 2021 7:45am Oct 17, 2021 7:45am
Quoting trader8881
{quote} You need to go to the blog. https://blog.lmitrade.com/en/2021/10...egistration-3/
Thank you.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,625
  • Oct 17, 2021 10:16am Oct 17, 2021 10:16am
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} Post 1 I have added a section towards the end of Post 1 which will be used to list those traders deemed to be posting biased promotional material to this thread which is not backed up by credible sources. If your name forms part of that list it means you must stop the way you post material. Friendly reminders will be provided to the offender after which if such activity continues the poster will be removed from posting here. Masterrmind ........
Great Job keeping things in order MM...

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  • #4,626
  • Oct 17, 2021 10:32am Oct 17, 2021 10:32am
Quoting QAndy
Are there any real (remote) FX prop firms around (not talking about Maverick FX, because you pay a lot for their courses before you can start), where they want you to win (and not to fail and pay for tryouts from those fake FX prop firms, because they are most a kind of Ponzi scheme only and also have no license at all) ?
Yes, FTMO and MFF.
  • #4,627
  • Oct 17, 2021 2:27pm Oct 17, 2021 2:27pm
Quoting QAndy
{quote} These (FTMO and MFF) are no real prop firms, because 1. they profit from your failures, so they want you to loose so they can maximize their profits. 2. you trade on demo account only (which might be copied to some parts to live account or not for their choice). As definition for real FX prop firms, I understand it in that way that one is trading on a real live account (so the prop firm need a kind of license), after a passed test, because they trust in the traders abilities to make some money. There is no real prop firm trading on demo...
So, I can either work from home and keep 85-90% of my profits or I can

a. move closer to a real prop firm, so my commute is only an hour or so each way
b. obtain a degree in finance
c. apply for and secure a job
d. have to trade under whatever strategy they see fit
e. keep 20% of profits, maybe more once proven

So while you chase the "legitimate, real" prop firm, I'll opt for FTMO and MFF and continue making a VERY GOOD living.

Just took a quick break from the NFL to look at some charts, happened to see the ridiculousness posted, be back later.
  • #4,628
  • Edited 3:10pm Oct 17, 2021 2:42pm | Edited 3:10pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So, I can either work from home and keep 85-90% of my profits or I can a. move closer to a real prop firm, so my commute is only an hour or so each way b. obtain a degree in finance c. apply for and secure a job d. have to trade under whatever strategy they see fit e. keep 20% of profits, maybe more once proven So while you chase the "legitimate, real" prop firm, I'll opt for FTMO and MFF and continue making a VERY GOOD living. Just took a quick break from the NFL to look at some charts, happened to see the ridiculousness posted, be back...
Damn, Pip, you presented a very difficult choice here. Fools who are not grateful for FTMO and MFF, should just continue to be fools...Ok, back to ice cold IPA and a Football, lets see what Raiders can do with the new coach.
  • #4,629
  • Edited 5:11pm Oct 17, 2021 4:34pm | Edited 5:11pm
Quoting QAndy
{quote}Anyone knows something ?
Yes, I do know something. It appears to me that you're not a trader because your focus is totally off.
Traders care about risk management and extracting money from the markets (or extracting $$$ from other traders if you like so).
Here, I just spent Sunday morning updating my stats.

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Quoting QAndy
{quote}As definition for real FX prop firms, I understand it in that way that one is trading on a real live account (so the prop firm need a kind of license), after a passed test, because they trust in the traders abilities to make some money. There is no real prop firm trading on demo accounts.
Maybe you understand, maybe not. Who cares if you trade a demo or on a real live account ? Again, it's all about the $$$.
As long as my invoices for the profit share are timely paid, I couldn't care less.

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Quoting QAndy
{quote} These (FTMO and MFF) are no real prop firms, because 1. they profit from your failures, so they want you to loose so they can maximize their profits. 2. you trade on demo account only (which might be copied to some parts to live account or not for their choice).
You are absolutely right. Of course they are no real prop firms. Or are they ?
Having said that, for now they pay my bills. Keep on accusing them from profiting from other's failures.
After all, that's more satisfying than proving you can extract money from them/the market.

LuXing

EDIT: @Qandy: just think of this prop thing as walking into a casino with $100-$1000).
You get your chips to play with at the roulette/poker table (or in this case, a demo/challenge account).
Maybe you win, maybe you lose. Statistically the house (the casino and the market) has the edge.

That's all.
Except for one thing, if you really have an edge and manage to beat the dealer, you should get paid.

There's nothing more to it.
Wisdom begins in wonder
  • #4,630
  • Oct 17, 2021 5:26pm Oct 17, 2021 5:26pm
A new kid on the block launching this week.

Appears to be owned/backed by 2 YouTube & IG "forex" traders. Lets see what they offer if it's any good.

Seems like anyone with a few $$$ is starting a retail prop firm these days. Hmmm I'm getting some ideas here lol..

https://toptiertrader.com/

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  • #4,631
  • Oct 17, 2021 5:32pm Oct 17, 2021 5:32pm
Quoting mrdfx
A new kid on the block launching this week. Appears to be owned/backed by 2 YouTube & IG "forex" traders. Lets see what they offer if it's any good. Seems like anyone with a few $$$ is starting a retail prop firm these days. Hmmm I'm getting some ideas here lol.. https://toptiertrader.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bow0HcfYDI4
holy hell. First Daniel Savage, now Cue Banks?
  • #4,632
  • Edited 6:14pm Oct 17, 2021 5:48pm | Edited 6:14pm
Quoting mrdfx
A new kid on the block launching this week. Appears to be owned/backed by 2 YouTube & IG "forex" traders. Lets see what they offer if it's any good. Seems like anyone with a few $$$ is starting a retail prop firm these days. Hmmm I'm getting some ideas here lol.. https://toptiertrader.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bow0HcfYDI4
Wow, that's hard to watch.

Man bun guy with legs up on the table. Very professional. At least they went all out with the T-shirts, the table, and a white wall. Any chance a new prop firm will open up run by a couple of guys in their 50s wearing suits in a modern office? Maybe a few gray hairs. The chance I use these two bozos is somewhere in the neighborhood of -100%.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,633
  • Oct 17, 2021 7:51pm Oct 17, 2021 7:51pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-And if someone is erroneously targeted? For example, I was suspected and even accused of being a shill when I initially started posting here. I have no affiliation with any firm or broker, so...
I am very fair.

Case by case basis.

Masterrmind ..........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #4,634
  • Oct 17, 2021 8:04pm Oct 17, 2021 8:04pm
Quoting mrdfx
A new kid on the block launching this week. Appears to be owned/backed by 2 YouTube & IG "forex" traders. Lets see what they offer if it's any good. Seems like anyone with a few $$$ is starting a retail prop firm these days. Hmmm I'm getting some ideas here lol.. https://toptiertrader.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bow0HcfYDI4
JFC... Stay as far away as you can from that Williams guy. I know someone who's dealt with that sad loser a couple of years ago.
  • #4,635
  • Oct 18, 2021 12:14am Oct 18, 2021 12:14am
Quoting mrdfx
A new kid on the block launching this week.
-Heard about this, but this is the first time that I have seen any details. Thanks for sharing.

Looks like another cookie-cutter offering. Weekend holds allowed, but that makes me question their legitimacy because it is difficult for me to believe that any investor would be willing to put their money at risk like that.

It is always good to have more options, and I am super grateful for that. I just wish that more firms would think outside of the box and push the envelope in terms of providing better offerings so that the prop scene, as a whole, is forced to constantly improve in order to remain competitive.
  • #4,636
  • Oct 18, 2021 12:59am Oct 18, 2021 12:59am
Quoting mrdfx
A new kid on the block launching this week. Appears to be owned/backed by 2 YouTube & IG "forex" traders. Lets see what they offer if it's any good. Seems like anyone with a few $$$ is starting a retail prop firm these days. Hmmm I'm getting some ideas here lol.. https://toptiertrader.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bow0HcfYDI4

Is that cuebanks? If so.. I don't think the earth is wide enough for me to avoid it enough. That dude is a straight up scammer.
  • #4,637
  • Oct 18, 2021 1:39am Oct 18, 2021 1:39am
Quoting mrdfx
A new kid on the block launching this week. Appears to be owned/backed by 2 YouTube & IG "forex" traders. Lets see what they offer if it's any good. Seems like anyone with a few $$$ is starting a retail prop firm these days. Hmmm I'm getting some ideas here lol.. https://toptiertrader.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bow0HcfYDI4
Cue Banks is rumoured to "own" KOT4x, a shady broker registered in St. Vincent and the Grenadines.
Also, recommends this broker to all his $750 a course students, as he never fails to show profitable trades running into the $400 thousands, all made with this (his) broker, yet there are reviews on FPA calling them out for not honoring petty withdrawals. 1.6 rating by the way.

Jessica was using challenge fees to fly private jets, Cue banks probably has a few more Lamborghini purchases/leases in mind.

In the prop realm, there's good, there's bad and there's "What the f is wrong with you"?
  • #4,638
  • Oct 18, 2021 1:50am Oct 18, 2021 1:50am
Quoting Koop
{quote} Cue Banks is rumoured to "own" KOT4x, a shady broker registered in St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Also, recommends this broker to all his $750 a course students, as he never fails to show profitable trades running into the $400 thousands, all made with this (his) broker, yet there are reviews on FPA calling them out for not honoring petty withdrawals. 1.6 rating by the way. Jessica was using challenge fees to fly private jets, Cue banks probably has a few more Lamborghini purchases/leases in mind. In the prop realm, there's good, there's...

OHHHH i forgot that Jessica's original magic server was kot4x ..... Damn, cuebanks lost that teet to suckle.

The worst thing about these instagramers is they have no shame but don't visit the nude beach (expose all). They have plenty to hide but no shame.....

Can't wait for when Daniel Savage can't pay and people maybe will finally stop believing his bull fucking shit. Just like his broker and his fund management scam.
  • #4,639
  • Oct 18, 2021 4:31am Oct 18, 2021 4:31am
Quoting Masterrmind
I am very fair. Case by case basis. Masterrmind ..........
-Fair enough. But maybe it should go both ways then? For example, people that casually throw around words like shill and scam without any evidence to back up their claims. Such comments can be equally irresponsible and dangerous, given the context.
  • #4,640
  • Edited 6:19am Oct 18, 2021 6:01am | Edited 6:19am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, FTMO and MFF.
I have had a couple of strange goings on with my account which have needed to be re-instated, and just now a mysterious withdrawal..
I hope MFF sort out their support and back end IT, it feels like they are literally cracking under the pressure now. Should get my first pay out on Thursday, hopefully. Let's just see if they can sort my MT4 account out (it feels like I'm been hacked or something) anybody else having these problems?

EDIT: is there another MFF discord channel I can sign up to get away from the plague of idiots?!!
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