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  • #4,601
  • Oct 15, 2021 9:19am Oct 15, 2021 9:19am
hey guys
could someone point me in the direction where I can find more information about this or just explain to me if you have few spare minutes:

- latency arbitrage trading
– reverse arbitrage trading
– hedge arbitrage trading
– or any use of emulators

they are not allowed in MFF and trying to find in Google but most is related to stocks
from what I understand
- latency arbitrage trading - this is when you try to benefit from their price being slower than others?

much appreciated
  • #4,602
  • Oct 15, 2021 9:26am Oct 15, 2021 9:26am
Quoting NXTrader
hey guys could someone point me in the direction where I can find more information about this or just explain to me if you have few spare minutes: - latency arbitrage trading – reverse arbitrage trading – hedge arbitrage trading – or any use of emulators they are not allowed in MFF and trying to find in Google but most is related to stocks from what I understand - latency arbitrage trading - this is when you try to benefit from their price being slower than others? much appreciated

Its cheating but using metatrader being a piece of shit to take a fast feed to execute on a slow speed resulting in your ability to print money.
  • #4,603
  • Oct 15, 2021 9:46am Oct 15, 2021 9:46am
Quoting NXTrader
hey guys could someone point me in the direction where I can find more information about this or just explain to me if you have few spare minutes: - latency arbitrage trading – reverse arbitrage trading – hedge arbitrage trading – or any use of emulators they are not allowed in MFF and trying to find in Google but most is related to stocks from what I understand - latency arbitrage trading - this is when you try to benefit from their price being slower than others? much appreciated
Like Takisd has said, its cheating the broker. If and when they find out, they will show you the door without any profits gained. FPA has hundreds of claims of scams by lads who used arbitrage EA's to game profits. They never win on their claims as every broker bans arbitrage in their TOS.

Its also strange how mql5 marketplace has tons of arb ea's for sale.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #4,604
  • Oct 15, 2021 10:40am Oct 15, 2021 10:40am
Quoting tradista
Sharing a list of non-retail "real" Proprietary Trading Firms (mostly US-based and UK-based), thinking it fits in this thread.
-This is exactly what I was looking for...a more restrictive, inconvenient and limited way of trading, that required more time and effort in order to see similar success.

Quoting tradista
makes you appreciate more what our hated-vs-beloved online pseudo-prop firms are allowing many to achieve in re to lifestyle and freedom!
-You are exactly right.

Quoting FXTrader.FF
Can you double check if I'm missing something?
-Unfortunately, there is no way of knowing what is happening behind the scenes. It really is not a problem though, because there are plenty of good opportunities available to us as traders. There has never been a better time in history to be a trader.

Quoting NXTrader
they are not allowed in MFF and trying to find in Google but most is related to stocks from what I understand
-If you are unsure, it is always better to go to the source. You do not want to be misinformed and caught off-guard as a result of varying interpretation.
  • #4,605
  • Oct 15, 2021 11:19am Oct 15, 2021 11:19am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Its cheating but using metatrader being a piece of shit to take a fast feed to execute on a slow speed resulting in your ability to print money.
thx Tak,

so basically all these 3 ( latency , reverse, hedge ) arbitrage trading is the same thing - checking faster feed and printing money ? like super fast trades?
  • #4,606
  • Oct 15, 2021 11:21am Oct 15, 2021 11:21am
Quoting Nsak3y
-If you are unsure, it is always better to go to the source. You do not want to be misinformed and caught off-guard as a result of varying interpretation.
I think I mislead you. I saw that MFF does not allow that and I was curious to see what this is. since I know what is hedge and arbitrage but not those terms together
  • #4,607
  • Oct 15, 2021 11:26am Oct 15, 2021 11:26am
Quoting NXTrader
I think I mislead you. I saw that MFF does not allow that and I was curious to see what this is. since I know what is hedge and arbitrage but not those terms together
-I understood. I think that you should inquire with MFF about what their interpretation of those things are. Because that is what matters the most. Because even if you find an explanation on Google, or by someone here, if MFF's interpretation of that differs, then you may find yourself in trouble later on, thinking that you were good-to-go.
  • #4,608
  • Oct 15, 2021 12:26pm Oct 15, 2021 12:26pm
Quoting NXTrader
{quote} thx Tak, so basically all these 3 ( latency , reverse, hedge ) arbitrage trading is the same thing - checking faster feed and printing money ? like super fast trades?

No they are taking advantage of knowing the price move before it happens in different ways. So one is to just buy/sell to take advantage of it. one is to open two trades and use the close to exit and another is to have two accounts and buy on one and sell on other and use the close as the arbitrage opportunity.

all of them can work on any broker but all of it is rejected by lps and causes losses to a company.
  • #4,609
  • Oct 15, 2021 2:35pm Oct 15, 2021 2:35pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} As with Propex (who I worked with) DOM trading is encouraged as you can become a market maker that way and the prop firm gets a rebate from the exchange for providing liquidity. The majority of orders in DOM centric funds HAS to be a limit otherwise they throw you to the dogs. I suspect that the majority of people here don't know how to trade strictly with limits and 5-10 times a day and not hold overnight even on FX futures. Which would fit the profile of most futures firms. I was trading 5 yr and 10 yr treasuries and finding the 5-10 limits...
This is gold!
  • #4,610
  • Oct 15, 2021 7:47pm Oct 15, 2021 7:47pm
Quoting Takisd
{image} TRUST PILOT IS GOSPEL
Priceless.

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  • #4,611
  • Oct 16, 2021 2:36am Oct 16, 2021 2:36am
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to get funding at Liberty Market Investment.
https://lmitrade.com/
What I like about this firm is that it regularly holds contests.

Just testing a trading strategy on a demo account is pretty boring.
Taking part in a contest gives me the motivation to work on my trading strategy and improve my trading skills.
And also the trading platform allows you to see the trades of other contest participants.
Among contest participants there are guys who trade systematically and profitably.
It also motivates and prevents from getting completely disappointed in trading.

The next contest will start on October 18. I recommend you to take part in it.
(Entry fee is not required)
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Do you know which prop firms hold contests?
  • #4,612
  • Oct 16, 2021 3:10am Oct 16, 2021 3:10am
Quoting trader8881
Hello everyone, I'm trying to get funding at Liberty Market Investment. https://lmitrade.com/ What I like about this firm is that it regularly holds contests. Just testing a trading strategy on a demo account is pretty boring. Taking part in a contest gives me the motivation to work on my trading strategy and improve my trading skills. And also the trading platform allows you to see the trades of other contest participants. Among contest participants there are guys who trade systematically and profitably. It also motivates and prevents...
I presume we will have to subscribe to the Volfix platform which is not free. Correct?
All right, the platform may be very good and make all the difference in the opinion of its subscribers, I will not dispute that part. I am just inquiring.
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #4,613
  • Oct 16, 2021 5:23am Oct 16, 2021 5:23am
Quoting JotaP
{quote} I presume we will have to subscribe to the Volfix platform which is not free. Correct? All right, the platform may be very good and make all the difference in the opinion of its subscribers, I will not dispute that part. I am just inquiring.
For the duration of the contest, there is a window for opening trades "Orders Window" in the platform. It does not require a subscription.
But the full functionality of the trading platform is not available.
Also, no subscription is required when you go through the selection program.
  • #4,614
  • Oct 16, 2021 9:48am Oct 16, 2021 9:48am
Quoting trader8881
{quote} For the duration of the contest, there is a window for opening trades "Orders Window" in the platform. It does not require a subscription. But the full functionality of the trading platform is not available. Also, no subscription is required when you go through the selection program.
Thank you for the explanation. I will have a better look at the company to have a more clear idea of their business model.
Have a good day.
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #4,615
  • Oct 16, 2021 5:46pm Oct 16, 2021 5:46pm
May I suggest that posters to this thread present information in an unbiased manner please.

Otherwise it comes across as biased promotion.

Biased promotion is not cool here !

If the posted information or links are backed up with 'proof' from reliable and searchable sources then it carries a lot more weight.

I may start posting via Post 1 who I believe to be offenders or dislike/hide such posts.

If your forum name gets posted with regards to these types of violations it means you need to cool it quickly before I start dropping the axe.

Length on the sidelines will be 7 days, 1 month or permanent based on the content posted.

Good trading,

Masterrmind .........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #4,616
  • Oct 16, 2021 6:00pm Oct 16, 2021 6:00pm
Quoting Masterrmind
May I suggest that posters to this thread present information in an unbiased manner please. Otherwise it comes across as biased promotion. Biased promotion is not cool here ! If the posted information or links are backed up with 'proof' from reliable and searchable sources then it carries a lot more weight. I may start posting via Post 1 who I believe to be offenders or dislike/hide such posts. If your forum name gets posted with regards to these types of violations it means you need to cool it quickly before I start dropping the axe. Length on...
Post 1

I have added a section towards the end of Post 1 which will be used to list those traders deemed to be posting biased promotional material to this thread which is not backed up by credible sources.

If your name forms part of that list it means you must stop the way you post material.

Friendly reminders will be provided to the offender after which if such activity continues the poster will be removed from posting here.

Masterrmind ........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #4,617
  • Oct 16, 2021 7:47pm Oct 16, 2021 7:47pm
Quoting QAndy
There is a prop firm contest, where you can win a prop firm account for stocks trading. For your information here. https://fondexx.pro/propcontest Here is Forex and CFDs trading contest. Behind is Golden Apex Capital. http://mtcookfinancial.com/mtc-trading-contest/
This looks interesting, it looks like they are using a contest to filter out potential traders.
Are you joining it or do you come across on any other review for this?
  • #4,618
  • Oct 16, 2021 9:57pm Oct 16, 2021 9:57pm
Quoting FXTrader.FF
{quote} {image} Thanks so much for your comment. It opened my mind Yes. You get nothing if you fail at level 10 as you generate 5% (100% your own ac) per level and pass level 9! Or you have to share 50% while you can keep 100% if you trade your owner. Can you double check if I'm missing something?
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Same goes for the5ers.

Once you pass level 6. Your account balance is $62.9k (after 50% withdrawal) but you will be disqualified if you lose Maximum $51.2k.

You have to share 50% while you can keep 100% if you trade your own account.
  • #4,619
  • Oct 16, 2021 10:31pm Oct 16, 2021 10:31pm
Quoting trader8881
Hello everyone, I'm trying to get funding at Liberty Market Investment. https://lmitrade.com/ What I like about this firm is that it regularly holds contests. Just testing a trading strategy on a demo account is pretty boring. Taking part in a contest gives me the motivation to work on my trading strategy and improve my trading skills. And also the trading platform allows you to see the trades of other contest participants. Among contest participants there are guys who trade systematically and profitably. It also motivates and prevents...
I don't find anywhere to sign up for a contest, just some drivel about social media.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,620
  • Oct 17, 2021 12:22am Oct 17, 2021 12:22am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I don't find anywhere to sign up for a contest, just some drivel about social media.
You need to go to the blog.
https://blog.lmitrade.com/en/2021/10...egistration-3/
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