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  • #301
  • Edited 11:26am Aug 7, 2021 8:18am | Edited 11:26am
WAIT TILL TRAIN ARRIVE AT INFLECTION POINT then WAIT TILL TRAIN DEPART TO ANOTHER TARGET.

REACT as Jupiter journal said

while visualize entry filter at all time and weighing risk scenario to read THE INTENT (Nakamoto MIND).

The WHY QUESTIONS all over the charts.
WHERE TO ? and WHY ?
Price STOP and pulling away ! WHY ?
price STOP but CONTINUE ! WHY ?

In the end we just ALWAYS WAIT WHEN PRICE CLEAN THE STOP CLUSTER AND BRAKE THE TMA and WAIIIIIT FOR NEXT DEPARTURE!!

Is price START DEPART AGAIN ?
LOOK LEFT
WHERE IS ?
FOLLOW.

IF enrty rule don't agree. DON'T TRADE

Trade safe
  • #302
  • Aug 7, 2021 9:49am Aug 7, 2021 9:49am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} The question is, when will they receive a visit.
With all due respect, this is the wrong question for retail forex traders. The important question is, are you in the market during the trip? And really, the key point is, how much of the journey did you trade?

Whether you understand the true nature of forex market forces, or have fallen under the delusional spell of a master algo, it should always come down to how many pips you collect. If you can't or aren't trading it, your belief system isn't much use to you.
  • #303
  • Aug 7, 2021 9:51am Aug 7, 2021 9:51am
Many thing's said in are are completely logical and base in facts many things in here are the completely opposite of logic and reason you know who you are!!! don't waste your time with fools I do not care to elaborate anymore
Fix up, Look sharp-by dizzee rascal - YouTube
  • #304
  • Aug 7, 2021 10:03am Aug 7, 2021 10:03am
Hi all,

First post here; this thread was recommended by a fellow trader.
I’ve spend the last ten years trying to decipher a similar principle on EliteTrader’s famous thread: “ Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?”

That thread is about “seeing” charts differently than the majority;
finding pivot points (bull to bear and vice versa);
taking very tight entries (small stop-losses)
and “predicting” targets (even within a certain timeframe)

Are there any posters here who are familiar with ET and see similarities with what BWilliam is talking about…?!

Thanks!
  • #305
  • Edited 12:03pm Aug 7, 2021 11:49am | Edited 12:03pm
Quoting Onra
Hi all, First post here; this thread was recommended by a fellow trader. I’ve spend the last ten years trying to decipher a similar principle on EliteTrader’s famous thread: “ Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?” That thread is about “seeing” charts differently than the majority; finding pivot points (bull to bear and vice versa); taking very tight entries (small stop-losses) and “predicting” targets (even within a certain timeframe) Are there any posters here who are familiar with ET and see similarities with what BWilliam is talking about…?! Thanks!...
Yes, it need VISION and OPEN MIND ofc.

It is meta perception at Optimus Prime world. So simple and ellegant. But HARD TO BELIEVE at first look.

It is real UN common sense

Be warn, you must dare to be different.
Your butt can blown away to ionosfer if you are not ready.

Better to follow Auction Market Theory and the Mighty Supply and Demand wizard.

Randomness, non-linearity, variant perception and reflexivity only lead you to never ending fragility.

No need to think outside box ... sir.
The box ITSELF DOESN'T EXIST, except in our mind conditioned by Sauron

Remember Chuck Yeager
the real barrier wasn't in the sky but in our knowledge and experience

Let Nakamoto be our best friend
I must shoot my mouth here

Close ALL your education and knowledge. IT as clear and bright as the sky in ALL time frame and ALL financial centralized market.

DO NOT FIGHT NAKAMOTO ... EVER
ACCEPT AND EMBRACE HIM
AND FOLLOW

Generouslly share by Mr. G

Trade safe
  • #306
  • Aug 7, 2021 1:47pm Aug 7, 2021 1:47pm
Quoting deanyakobs
{quote} Yes, it need VISION and OPEN MIND ofc. It is meta perception at Optimus Prime world. So simple and ellegant. But HARD TO BELIEVE at first look. It is real UN common sense Be warn, you must dare to be different. Your butt can blown away to ionosfer if you are not ready. Better to follow Auction Market Theory and the Mighty Supply and Demand wizard. Randomness, non-linearity, variant perception and reflexivity only lead you to never ending fragility. No need to think outside box ... sir. The box ITSELF DOESN'T EXIST, except in our mind conditioned...
Well, I've seen some cryptic posts in my time, but you sure earn a top spot mister!
Optimus Prime; Nakamoto...
And who's Mr. G?

Do you see this phenomenon in every chart?
And do you base it on calculations or is it just another way of "looking"?

Thanks.
  • #307
  • Aug 7, 2021 3:39pm Aug 7, 2021 3:39pm
Quoting Ross88
Many thing's said in are are completely logical and base in facts many things in here are the completely opposite of logic and reason you know who you are!!! don't waste your time with fools I do not care to elaborate anymore Fix up, Look sharp-by dizzee rascal - YouTube
Please, no music vids thanks.
  • #308
  • Aug 7, 2021 3:43pm Aug 7, 2021 3:43pm
Quoting GEfx
{quote} With all due respect, this is the wrong question for retail forex traders. The important question is, are you in the market during the trip? And really, the key point is, how much of the journey did you trade? Whether you understand the true nature of forex market forces, or have fallen under the delusional spell of a master algo, it should always come down to how many pips you collect. If you can't or aren't trading it, your belief system isn't much use to you.
Its not the wrong question for me.
I can be reasonably sure of being in the market based on my analysis, using the obvious Algo rather than voodoo Fundamentals, the issue I have had is visually I can see the logical exit, programming that exit has been a challenge as a non coder, but I'm getting there.
Trade well.
  • #309
  • Edited 4:52pm Aug 7, 2021 4:10pm | Edited 4:52pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} 20.07 This move has not confirmed intention. It's just "noise" and anything can still happen. 04.08 This move is AFTER 29.07. This move does not show anything that can change the intention set on 29.07. {quote} Good question. Because the algo intention is not to go bullish. This is why knowledge of intention is the key knowledge. Traders who don't have knowledge of algo levels and intention must naturally think price is bullish going towards 1850 and further north. This is the only possible interpretation. This same bullish north move can...
Just caught up with this post BW
Excellent analysis, I also had 29.07 to lock in the reversal.

At the moment I'm holding GU short, I had the reversal locked in 30.07 .... when you said the grail is to back yourself and go large, you're not wrong.
The Algo has set a series of traps, in other words ranging (washing machine) for best part of a week, holding fort on a particular level 1.38853 which has now been broken.
Aiming for the first of the available order blocks with the first one around 1.33781, second at 1.36985
If price goes against me, shit happens, move on.
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  • #310
  • Aug 7, 2021 5:28pm Aug 7, 2021 5:28pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} The Algo has set a series of traps, in other words ranging for best part of a week {image}
The algo is intentionally setting up traps? A ranging market is an algo trap?
  • #311
  • Aug 7, 2021 5:35pm Aug 7, 2021 5:35pm
Quoting GEfx
{quote} The algo is intentionally setting up traps? A ranging market is an algo trap?
Setting the illusion of where it’s not going to go.
That’s it whole purpose.
Provide a market to trade, give the illusion of direction, then hammer opposite. That’s all it has to do.
  • #312
  • Aug 7, 2021 6:18pm Aug 7, 2021 6:18pm
In fact let’s look at it this way… the figure banded around is that 95% of traders lose money…
I would hazard a guess that 95% of traders believe they are trading a market based on fundamentals and supply and demand.
  • #313
  • Edited 7:16pm Aug 7, 2021 7:00pm | Edited 7:16pm
Cheers, Andy, BW & GEfx
(and all others participating)


Andy for always sticking to his damn guns (as he ALWAYS does)

and for … his Flying Dutchman …

The thread appeared for a period to be ‘trapped’ in its own Bermuda Triangle
but it did not flounder


Flying Dutchman
The Flying Dutchman is a legendary ghost ship which was said to never be able to make port, doomed to sail the oceans forever.
(The myth is likely to have originated from the 17th-century Golden Age of the Dutch East India Company)


BW for his scatterd lollies (or pearls of Paititi) that he spread out
… and NOT in a two story house as I first envisioned
…… BUT over a bloody five story mansion .


and GEfx

… for hanging around and herding / linking our concept (algo) to his reality (bankers - regardless of their greed or not).


And more so, for the LACK of the ongoing continual effen arguments of who is right and who is wrong (in THEIR own opinion lol) that permeate & destroy MOST of the threads on FF.
  • #314
  • Edited 7:33pm Aug 7, 2021 7:01pm | Edited 7:33pm
So, back to more mental exercises for me now/again


ps
they told me when I retired to just do crosswords, for mental stimulation & activity hehee

but forex has far more benefits imho


and maybe only once any IMMEDIATE quest for a quid is relegated to an end result

and not the initial / prime purpose


for new traders what I mean by this is, study & practice it first all on DEMO.


all the best to all
Pete
  • #315
  • Aug 7, 2021 7:38pm Aug 7, 2021 7:38pm
Quoting TimeTells
So, back to more mental exercises for me now/again ps they told me when I retired to just do crosswords, for mental stimulation & activity hehee but forex has far more benefits imho and maybe only once any IMMEDIATE quest for a quid is relegated to an end result and not the initial / prime purpose for new traders what I mean by this is, study & practice it first all on DEMO. all the best to all Pete
Hi Pete, imagine yourself cruising effortlessly 250 kmh in a audi rs8 that's your incentive. Sydney to Brisbane in 5hrs.
Know what you trade
  • #316
  • Aug 7, 2021 7:41pm Aug 7, 2021 7:41pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Setting the illusion of where it’s not going to go. That’s it whole purpose. Provide a market to trade, give the illusion of direction, then hammer opposite. That’s all it has to do.
I know a lot of people who were not fooled by the "illusion". But range trading is one of our things.
  • #317
  • Aug 7, 2021 7:52pm Aug 7, 2021 7:52pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi Pete, imagine yourself cruising effortlessly 250 kmh in a audi rs8 that's your incentive. Sydney to Brisbane in 5hrs.



Cheers BW.

I'm out for a few of hours now as the Prelims have started already leading up to a ripper UFC Main Event between

the Brutal Outright Violence from the streets of Texas, Derek (the "Black Beast" - his own word-title, not mine)
and
the absolutely Ultra Talented & Skilled ex kick-boxer from France, Ciryl (his spelling, not mine lol).


Mixed martial arts - the BEST matchups are always - skill vs violence, in boxing parlance we used to say Boxer vs Puncher

and NO predictions please, unnecessary, just sit back and enjoy the show

back later!
  • #318
  • Aug 7, 2021 7:52pm Aug 7, 2021 7:52pm
Quoting moodybot
In fact let’s look at it this way… the figure banded around is that 95% of traders lose money… I would hazard a guess that 95% of traders believe they are trading a market based on fundamentals and supply and demand.
The delusion of the master algo only serves a purpose if you can trade it. If you are trading it, then I'm happy for you. But if you got trapped in a range last week it wasn't the master algo's fault.
  • #319
  • Edited 8:26pm Aug 7, 2021 8:07pm | Edited 8:26pm
Quoting GEfx
{quote} The delusion of the master algo only serves a purpose if you can trade it. If you are trading it, then I'm happy for you. But if you got trapped in a range last week it wasn't the master algo's fault.
I wasn't stuck in a range.
For an Algo trader there is only the start of the cycle and the end, no range, no trend.
The illusion of a range or trend, that's for the 95%.
For a trader using fundamental analysis or supply and demand, welcome to the washing machine.

I'll take a punt as predictions are lacking on Forex Factory.

And if I'm wrong, then Money Management comes into play!
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  • #320
  • Aug 7, 2021 8:54pm Aug 7, 2021 8:54pm
I like your washing machine analogy; rinse and repeat...

Do you get the intent after the washing or by figuring out that the High was indeed (precisely) the end of the move up?
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