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  • #119,521
  • May 28, 2021 8:02am May 28, 2021 8:02am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} UJ May28 H1 Tokyo 10am - H1 BUOB setup candle alert!

UJ May 28 H1 NYO

- it has been slow and surely ...

- heading to ADR High now

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  • #119,522
  • May 28, 2021 8:10am May 28, 2021 8:10am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Hi Welcome back! Yes. Dean is a good man and he shared his knowledge and experience with all people. He left CompassFX and the last I heard he went on sabbatical and seems not to return. But most of his old tutorial videos are available in youtube channels. During Dean' time people lost money and gave many negative reviews of his Synergy trading model. Big E was one of his avid follower and gave him good review. But as usual people lose money and I know the main reason is they do not fully understand the market and they do not have the required...
To blame dean is unfair. there is so much more to trading then system, from my observation of being arround dean ( in his room) most people don't give a system a fair go and want to rapidly make money with it, the learning curve is much bigger then most people think.

Dean's info and knowledge though shared in his room was & is still brillant, as we know dean developed different system's, I liked some and some not so much.

At the end of the day, the trader and how he/she manages themselves, money and edge is how the results are achieved .

I can share much more from Dean Malone if possible. but TMS might not be the place ? or is it?
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  • #119,523
  • May 28, 2021 8:12am May 28, 2021 8:12am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Kirinda, you can not backtest with TDI. > The TDI green cross red what you see on a live non refreshed chart is not the same TDI green cross red in a MT4 Strategy Tester. Did a little test to show you. Wednesday 26/05/2021 live trend lines against Strategy Tester trades. {image} Thursday 27/05/2021 live trend lines against Strategy Tester trades. {image} Today 28/05/2021 live trend lines against Strategy Tester trades. {image} The totale of TDI crossover that are not profitable is more then those that are profitable. No EA can be programmed...
With back testing I do not think some examples over a couple of days. I mean at least a couple of hundred trades per instrument and time frame you use. I do not mean EA because it will perform bad anyway because it will take a lot of bad entries. I understand that BIGE TDI repaint but is there an TDI that doesn't repaint that
you can do for back testing? With back testing over many sample you will get good information of the performance of the strategy: winning %, average risk:reward, number of winners in a row, number of looser in a raw (this number you need to know so you doesn't panic over a couple of loosers).
  • #119,524
  • May 28, 2021 8:14am May 28, 2021 8:14am
Quoting ensale
{quote} To blame dean is unfair. there is so much more to trading then system, from my observation of being arround dean ( in his room) most people don't give a system a fair go and want to rapidly make money with it, the learning curve is much bigger then most people think. Dean's info and knowledge though shared in his room was & is still brillant, as we know dean developed different system's, I liked some and some not so much. At the end of the day, the trader and how he/she manages themselves, money and edge is how the results are achieved ....

Please share and help traders build a strong foundation which Big E had. This will help people here build that same strong foundation for trading TMS 5-Method.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #119,525
  • May 28, 2021 8:23am May 28, 2021 8:23am
Quoting ensale
{quote} To blame dean is unfair. there is so much more to trading then system, from my observation of being arround dean ( in his room) most people don't give a system a fair go and want to rapidly make money with it, the learning curve is much bigger then most people think. Dean's info and knowledge though shared in his room was & is still brillant, as we know dean developed different system's, I liked some and some not so much. At the end of the day, the trader and how he/she manages themselves, money and edge is how the results are achieved ....
I can share much more from Dean Malone if possible. but TMS might not be the place ? or is it?
That is entirely up to you to decide. The thread has no one controlling it, so you can decide if you want to abide by BigE's wishes, or add posts that have nothing to do with the 5-method.

Of course, you can also rationalize away whatever off topic material that you post by emmulating Vincent and stating that you are adding to the "evolution" of the 5-method, even though that "evolution" is actually just more off topic talk that belongs in a seperate thread.
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  • #119,526
  • May 28, 2021 8:28am May 28, 2021 8:28am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} With back testing I do not think some examples over a couple of days. I mean at least a couple of hundred trades per instrument and time frame you use. I do not mean EA because it will perform bad anyway because it will take a lot of bad entries. I understand that BIGE TDI repaint but is there an TDI that doesn't repaint that you can do for back testing? With back testing over many sample you will get good information of the performance of the strategy: winning %, average risk:reward, number of winners in a row, number of looser in a raw...

The solution to avoid repainting of RSI MA due to coding flaw when using tick data, are two.

1. use iRSI and iMA functions in MQL4 but use array to cache manually TDI values at last tick of candle (close of candle). Although i___() often give slightly different values than MT4 built in indi and the actual equations. This is a known issue of MT4 for long.

2. code the equation using MQL4. It requires additional array for RSI on top of the 2 MAs. A few more lines of codes but the values will be accurate.

the “coding flaw” is not a problem originated from coders. It’s simply MQL4’s logic of calculations for immediate last candle is referring to first tick of new candle instead of supposed last candle compared with other newer coding platforms.

But when come to TMS using EA to backtest is useless simply because of the discretionary decisions
if manual backtesting then BigE’s TDI green red is okay. Otherwise add RSI and 2 MAs manually with built in indicators can do the same job. They will paint the same lines. See it yourself

Trade well.
  • #119,527
  • May 28, 2021 8:28am May 28, 2021 8:28am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} With back testing I do not think some examples over a couple of days. I mean at least a couple of hundred trades per instrument and time frame you use. I do not mean EA because it will perform bad anyway because it will take a lot of bad entries. I understand that BIGE TDI repaint but is there an TDI that doesn't repaint that you can do for back testing? With back testing over many sample you will get good information of the performance of the strategy: winning %, average risk:reward, number of winners in a row, number of looser in a raw...
So jump in, find a no repaint TDI, run the backest, and make a report. I am confident that everyone will appreciate the insights from the information that you find.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #119,528
  • May 28, 2021 8:33am May 28, 2021 8:33am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} The solution to avoid repainting of RSI MA due to coding flaw when using tick data, are two. 1. use iRSI and iMA functions in MQL4 but use array to cache manually TDI values at last tick of candle (close of candle). Although i___() often give slightly different values than MT4 built in indi and the actual equations. This is a known issue of MT4 for long. 2. code the equation using MQL4. It requires additional array for RSI on top of the 2 MAs. A few more lines of codes but the values will be accurate. the “coding flaw” is not a problem originated...

No need for all these disinformation and changes.

Just use the same TDI in Post#25 the same one Big E used and trade in realtime live market and follow his posts and his rules.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #119,529
  • May 28, 2021 8:36am May 28, 2021 8:36am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} The solution to avoid repainting of RSI MA due to coding flaw when using tick data, are two. 1. use iRSI and iMA functions in MQL4 but use array to cache manually TDI values at last tick of candle (close of candle). Although i___() often give slightly different values than MT4 built in indi and the actual equations. This is a known issue of MT4 for long. 2. code the equation using MQL4. It requires additional array for RSI on top of the 2 MAs. A few more lines of codes but the values will be accurate. the “coding flaw” is not a problem originated...
Yes, here you have the solution for Tekkies.
  • #119,530
  • May 28, 2021 8:37am May 28, 2021 8:37am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} With back testing I do not think some examples over a couple of days. I mean at least a couple of hundred trades per instrument and time frame you use. I do not mean EA because it will perform bad anyway because it will take a lot of bad entries. I understand that BIGE TDI repaint but is there an TDI that doesn't repaint that you can do for back testing? With back testing over many sample you will get good information of the performance of the strategy: winning %, average risk:reward, number of winners in a row, number of looser in a raw...

You can run the TDI #25 in MT4 strategy tester and using the F12 function step-by-step forward each price bar and observe the price action and TDI behaviour. This will show the actual TDI lines when each price bar closes.

Very time consuming when you do this tests for 10 years history price data.

Best way is still real-time live forward testing here in this thread.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #119,531
  • May 28, 2021 8:42am May 28, 2021 8:42am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} So jump in, find a no repaint TDI, run the backest, and make a report. I am confident that everyone will appreciate the insights from the information that you find.
I do a lot of back testing for my own strategy. Tekkies should do the same to avoid psychological issue when she trading her real account. It's zero point for me to test TMS if I do not use the strategy myself because I do not think like you or Tekkies (our performance will be different)
  • #119,532
  • May 28, 2021 8:42am May 28, 2021 8:42am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} The solution to avoid repainting of RSI MA due to coding flaw when using tick data, are two. 1. use iRSI and iMA functions in MQL4 but use array to cache manually TDI values at last tick of candle (close of candle). Although i___() often give slightly different values than MT4 built in indi and the actual equations. This is a known issue of MT4 for long. 2. code the equation using MQL4. It requires additional array for RSI on top of the 2 MAs. A few more lines of codes but the values will be accurate. the “coding flaw” is not a problem originated...
I think that the question that has never been answered satisfactorily is, what are the results when entry is decided only by the green cross red with acceptable angle and perhaps if stochastics confirms direction. Of course, a variety of exit schemes would be required to be run and compared as well.

But in any case, that would provide some statistics that can help determine how much the green cross red contributes to the outcome. If the performance is poor for every exit strategy, then it would be clear that the discretionary elements are of significant importance.

Personally, I would not use the MetaQuotes platform for backtesting. There are plenty of other platforms available that have better backtest performance and that have tools that make it easier to write and modify backtest strategies.
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  • #119,533
  • May 28, 2021 8:44am May 28, 2021 8:44am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} Yes, here you have the solution for Tekkies.
It is just for everyone interested in looking at live market with correct TDI configuration, ie forward testing or strategy tester (not recommended as no Pa analysis)

backtesting like the training charts by BigE can simply view the historical price data with TDI Green Red at #25
  • #119,534
  • May 28, 2021 8:49am May 28, 2021 8:49am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} With back testing I do not think some examples over a couple of days. I mean at least a couple of hundred trades per instrument and time frame you use. I do not mean EA because it will perform bad anyway because it will take a lot of bad entries. I understand that BIGE TDI repaint but is there an TDI that doesn't repaint that you can do for back testing? With back testing over many sample you will get good information of the performance of the strategy: winning %, average risk:reward, number of winners in a row, number of looser in a raw...
Me, panic over some loosers, never.
----
To do what you ask will about the same as in Post 117,840, Post 117,846.
How long will that take?

Hands are tied behind back, Kirinda.
Why?
Use any other TDI indicator other then what BigE has approved in post#25 you will not have what BigE has posted about but something els.
----
No, Tekkies need to trust TDI and that sum up his predicament.
  • #119,535
  • May 28, 2021 8:49am May 28, 2021 8:49am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} It is just for everyone interested in looking at live market with correct TDI configuration, ie forward testing or strategy tester (not recommended as no Pa analysis) backtesting like the training charts by BigE can simply view the historical price data with TDI Green Red at #25
Tommy, are you the only one trading TMS is this thread?
  • #119,536
  • May 28, 2021 8:49am May 28, 2021 8:49am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} You can run the TDI #25 in MT4 strategy tester and using the F12 function step-by-step forward each price bar and observe the price action and TDI behaviour. This will show the actual TDI lines when each price bar closes. Very time consuming when you do this tests for 10 years history price data. Best way is still real-time live forward testing here in this thread.
Thanks for more of your comedy!

As if sitting in front of the screen in real time will be so much faster than pushing F12. Thanks for further confirmation that you "lightbulb moments" are as useful as bailing out your sinking ship with a seive.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #119,537
  • May 28, 2021 8:51am May 28, 2021 8:51am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Me, panic over some loosers, never. ---- To do what you ask will about the same as in Post 117,840, Post 117,846. How long will that take? Hands are tied behind back, Kirinda. Why? Use any other TDI indicator other then what BigE has approved in post#25 you will not have what BigE has posted about but something els. ---- No,...
No, Tekkies need to trust TDI

According to your trade explorer you add to losing positions. That is not trusting TDI.
  • #119,538
  • May 28, 2021 8:54am May 28, 2021 8:54am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} Tommy, are you the only one trading TMS is this thread?
I see a few also learning and trading the TMS, although some chose to reduce the frequency of sharing.
Successful or not I don’t think it’s important.

You can look at the charts shared by posters here, and I think it’s up to you to think who is practicing TMS.

TMS has some rules, but timeframe is optional, for your reference

The objective of posting here should be showing how traders practice TMS rules, and to show if it works or does not work with the posters.
so I don’t think of a reason to praise a winning trade, or tease a losing trade.
but I choose to voice out when someone is not trading TMS, will you?
  • #119,539
  • May 28, 2021 8:54am May 28, 2021 8:54am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Me, panic over some loosers, never. ---- To do what you ask will about the same as in Post 117,840, Post 117,846. How long will that take? Hands are tied behind back, Kirinda. Why? Use any other TDI indicator other then what BigE has approved in post#25 you will not have what BigE has posted about but something els. ---- No,...
I suspect that you would find little difference between the results from using the post#25 TDI and a "corrected" version. But a "corrected" version would enable proper backtesting.
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  • #119,540
  • May 28, 2021 8:56am May 28, 2021 8:56am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} Thanks for more of your comedy! As if sitting in front of the screen in real time will be so much faster than pushing F12. Thanks for further confirmation that you "lightbulb moments" are as useful as bailing out your sinking ship with a seive.
As if sitting in front of the screen in real time will be so much faster than pushing F12

If you are trading higher time frame you saving a lot of time. You know this but you need to have something negative to say.
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