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  • #1,185,081
  • Sep 24, 2020 8:42am Sep 24, 2020 8:42am
Quoting coolhand
{quote} In reality, you are wrong. Under obama we lost manufacturing jobs. Under Trump we gained manufacturing jobs. Americans are sick of everything being made in China, and most is cheap junk made by cheap slave labor. Trump is actually putting America first and many people do not like it. A strong America is better for the world than a strong China.
You said it. Thank you.
  • #1,185,082
  • Sep 24, 2020 8:42am Sep 24, 2020 8:42am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} You're wrong. The whole point is to get the jobs back. It is happening now.
Have you checked unemployment numbers this year?

Your claim is outrageous
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  • #1,185,083
  • Sep 24, 2020 8:43am Sep 24, 2020 8:43am
Quoting RideTheWave
{quote} China is also beyond A human rights abuser to get the production they provide for the pay. It’d be cheaper regardless. But child labor. Suicide nets. Massive humans rights issues. All helped China’s cause to get factories and capital.
That is going to change. China will lose a lot of jobs and companies. North America is getting the jobs back. Trump proved that by getting manufacturing back. Things will get better soon.
  • #1,185,084
  • Sep 24, 2020 8:44am Sep 24, 2020 8:44am
Quoting Dzap
{quote} Have you checked unemployment numbers this year? Your claim is outrageous
Trump got manufacturing jobs back. Unemployment numbers are affecting everyone. You are not thinking straight, this is how it is for now, there will be changes to economy. Give a year or two you will notice changes. China is not strong anymore. North America are getting their jobs and companies back. We will win no matter what. If you are not happy, move to China. I am sure they will treat you the right way they know.
  • #1,185,085
  • Sep 24, 2020 8:50am Sep 24, 2020 8:50am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} True. Look at it this way, we the western society, have made China rich. By letting our rich greedy bastards, selling everything in North America and moving companies to China and countries like that, to use cheap labour so they can make millions and billions of dollars. So for them it is not enought to make 5 or 10 million a year. They want 50 or 100 or more millions a year. But they screw over the rest of the populations here in North America. Well that is going to stop. Our jobs will be back here soon, and the greedy rich bastard that...
US is a capitalist country and people here believe in that strongly. A person/business should make the all the money they want to make without the GOV intervening because so.....so if Trump dose that he will be essentially Taxing those corporations.

Labor cost and quality of production outside of the US is HARD to compete with...no one in the US going to work for the same pay or in the same conditions they are in other countries like you named.

labor cost and sale price are directly related....will have a hard time bringing production back where its humans and not robots making the products...think you will need to find another way to level the playing field...
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  • #1,185,086
  • Sep 24, 2020 8:55am Sep 24, 2020 8:55am
Quoting Dzap
{quote} Have you checked unemployment numbers this year? Your claim is outrageous
The only reason for unemployment now is from the China virus. Before it hit, there were more job openings here in the USA than qualified people to fill them.
  • #1,185,087
  • Sep 24, 2020 8:58am Sep 24, 2020 8:58am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} US is a capitalist country and people here believe in that strongly. A person/business should make the all the money they want to make without the GOV intervening because so.....so if Trump dose that he will be essentially Taxing those corporations. Labor cost and quality of production outside of the US is HARD to compete with...no one in the US going to work for the same pay or in the same conditions they are in other countries like you named. labor cost and sale price are directly related....will have a hard time bringing production back...
Very easy. They are bringing companies back already. Robots are only good for certain things. You need human production no matter what. Especially custom productions. Fast paced on the lien robots, well no human wants to work manually anymore on fast production line. that is where robots come in. But one door closes the other opens. Meaning some jobs are closing and others are opening. You are right the labour in North America is not cheap. But we have no choice but to get our jobs back. Those rich greedy bastard have no choice, they have to pay the labour $20/hr and up in North America. They will just have to get use to making 10 million a year instead of 100 million a year. We do not care. At least they are getting that 10 mill a year. Instead of buying a house that is worth 50 million. They will have to settle with a 1-5 million dollar real estate. Who cares about their feelings, they will have to adapt just like we all are adapting. That is how it is.
  • #1,185,088
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:02am Sep 24, 2020 9:02am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} US is a capitalist country and people here believe in that strongly. A person/business should make the all the money they want to make without the GOV intervening because so.....so if Trump dose that he will be essentially Taxing those corporations. Labor cost and quality of production outside of the US is HARD to compete with...no one in the US going to work for the same pay or in the same conditions they are in other countries like you named. labor cost and sale price are directly related....will have a hard time bringing production back...

I agree, I'm not seeing anything that will stop globalization.

Also I think the EUR/USD bottom out, I bought near the bottom cheers.
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  • #1,185,089
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:03am Sep 24, 2020 9:03am
Quoting coolhand
{quote} The only reason for unemployment now is from the China virus. Before it hit, there were more job openings here in the USA than qualified people to fill them.
Shortages in education health care among other fields.

Overqualified people in manufacturing positions is a joke
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  • #1,185,090
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:08am Sep 24, 2020 9:08am
Quoting Dzap
{quote} Shortages in education health care among other fields. Overqualified people in manufacturing positions is a joke
Please, stop with the nonsense. Overqualified and shortages? That is a myth. There will be always qualified people and enough people to do the jobs.
  • #1,185,091
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:09am Sep 24, 2020 9:09am
I worked for a manufacturing company in the US up until earlier this year. Saying that manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US is completely Delusional.

When we did have openings, we struggled to get enough people to even apply for the manufacturing jobs because no one wants to do that sort of labor for the wages those positions demand (for a very well respected company btw). Even when we filled positions, the turnover rate was extremely high, so it was a constant process.

So we had a massive focus on investing in robots to automate and speed the manufacturing process, while also filling the necessary positions. That's basically what we used the Trump Tax cuts for-- investing in automation, not investing in more "jobs".

Anyone who thinks that manufacturing jobs are the future are sadly living in the past.
  • #1,185,092
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:15am Sep 24, 2020 9:15am
Quoting coolhand
{quote} In reality, you are wrong. Under obama we lost manufacturing jobs. Under Trump we gained manufacturing jobs. Americans are sick of everything being made in China, and most is cheap junk made by cheap slave labor. Trump is actually putting America first and many people do not like it. A strong America is better for the world than a strong China.
lol....US manufacturing started going away along time ago

I think some people have a hard time distinguish partisan politics from facts and science

US manufacturing was one the part to doom...

when corporations figured they could make something outside the country for a fraction of the cost in the US and that was before Obama.

When Technological advances led to automation in production that didn't require a human like it once did...you can go into some factories and see lines or robotic arms doing things in places US citizens once stood and did...nothing to do with Obama....

Nature of the beast of capitalisms bud....job of a business to make money....people with issues on that need to handle with those business....

Really laughable most people supporting trump currently never stayed in a trump hotel and first product of Trump they owned was probably a MAGA hat....well rest assured BUY AMERICAN HAS JUST BECOME HIS NICE POLITICAL POINT FOR HIS NEW BASE....Most of his stuff made in china or WAS before...only make sense its business
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  • #1,185,093
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:17am Sep 24, 2020 9:17am
Quoting MugzyPips
I worked for a manufacturing company in the US up until earlier this year. Saying that manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US is completely Delusional. When we did have openings, we struggled to get enough people to even apply for the manufacturing jobs because no one wants to do that sort of labor for the wages those positions demand (for a very well respected company btw). Even when we filled positions, the turnover rate was extremely high, so it was a constant process. So we had a massive focus on investing in robots to automate and speed...
A lot of things are the future. You must be stupid in order to think that manufacturing is dead. We will always need manufacturing jobs. It's what makes a lot of things going, same as construction. That is the future, automation, it has been here for a while. Humans were complaining about working manually on the line, which is understandable, it is a hard job and no one wants to stand on the line like a robot. So robots were invented, and they are running the lines. Like I said, one door closes the other opens, some jobs close, the others will open. Stop focusing on your company, that is not what rusn the USA. Manufacturing jobs are here, and they will stay. Now we are getting back more jobs. It will get better.
  • #1,185,094
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:17am Sep 24, 2020 9:17am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Please, stop with the nonsense. Overqualified and shortages? That is a myth. There will be always qualified people and enough people to do the jobs.
Overqualification and shortage is a real problem.

It is caused by high education and low wages

Few people on Forexfactory are educated or even speak english as their first language. Is really something...

https://www.epi.org/publication/the-...market-series/
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  • #1,185,095
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:18am Sep 24, 2020 9:18am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Very easy. They are bringing companies back already. Robots are only good for certain things. You need human production no matter what. Especially custom productions. Fast paced on the lien robots, well no human wants to work manually anymore on fast production line. that is where robots come in. But one door closes the other opens. Meaning some jobs are closing and others are opening. You are right the labour in North America is not cheap. But we have no choice but to get our jobs back. Those rich greedy bastard have no choice, they have...
you sound like a socialist

its all really funny

we are all sheep being lead for wolves dressed like sheep...only until your sitting at the table with the wolves.
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  • #1,185,096
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:18am Sep 24, 2020 9:18am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} lol....US manufacturing started going away along time ago I think some people have a hard time distinguish partisan politics from facts and science US manufacturing was one the part to doom... when corporations figured they could make something outside the country for a fraction of the cost in the US and that was before Obama. When Technological advances led to automation in production that didn't require a human like it once did...you can go into some factories and see lines or robotic arms doing things in places US citizens...
Some jobs can be made by robots. A lot of it can't, you need humans no matter what. So argument is invalid. Jobs are getting back to North America. We will get better soon. It's what it is.
  • #1,185,097
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:19am Sep 24, 2020 9:19am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} lol....US manufacturing started going away along time ago I think some people have a hard time distinguish partisan politics from facts and science US manufacturing was one the part to doom... when corporations figured they could make something outside the country for a fraction of the cost in the US and that was before Obama. When Technological advances led to automation in production that didn't require a human like it once did...you can go into some factories and see lines or robotic arms doing things in places US citizens...

I have two trump ties, they are made in china
  • #1,185,098
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:20am Sep 24, 2020 9:20am
Quoting constantine1
{quote} I agree, I'm not seeing anything that will stop globalization. Also I think the EUR/USD bottom out, I bought near the bottom cheers. {image}
well this year showed the kinks in the armor...with the trade wars and covid.

most business are and have already adjust supply chains....sure they want put all the eggs in one basket anymore...moving thing around but doubt we see any "significant" increase in production being brought back to the US
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  • #1,185,099
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:30am Sep 24, 2020 9:30am
looks like my longs are short lived, I closed out, and I'm done for the day. Cheers
  • #1,185,100
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:38am Sep 24, 2020 9:38am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} well this year showed the kinks in the armor...with the trade wars and covid. most business are and have already adjust supply chains....sure they want put all the eggs in one basket anymore...moving thing around but doubt we see any "significant" increase in production being brought back to the US
It's already happening in North America. Jobs are going back. Look at china, while there is less export and lockdown, it is costing them more, to keep the warehouses full of production and not shipping it anywhere.
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