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  • #1,185,061
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:27am Sep 24, 2020 9:27am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} In short: Trump Trade = fiscal stimulus = higher inflation = higher interest rates = stronger dollar.
Couldn't get past the first part!

How does Trump Trade = Fiscal Stimulus?

Also what's Trump Trade?
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  • #1,185,062
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:41am Sep 24, 2020 9:41am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} Couldn't get past the first part! How does Trump Trade = Fiscal Stimulus? Also what's Trump Trade?

Traders like trump because he is predictable as shit

He will sacrifice almost anything so that the stock market will be relatively "stable"
The bubble will burst, all short term
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  • #1,185,063
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:48am Sep 24, 2020 9:48am
Quoting Dzap
{quote} Traders like trump because he is predictable as shit He will sacrifice almost anything so that the stock market will be relatively "stable" The bubble will burst, all short term
IDK....

What I want to know is how/why USD will shot up because of Trump...in the explanation i got to why....that lead to another question...which how Trump Trade = Fiscal Stimulus?

It seems they are saying Trump will be good for US...cool I "could possibly" agree.

I think USD will shot up more when Feds raise rates than it would if Trump wins
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  • #1,185,064
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:50am Sep 24, 2020 9:50am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} IDK.... What I want to know is how/why USD will shot up because of Trump...in the explanation i got to why....that lead to another question...which how Trump Trade = Fiscal Stimulus? It seems they are saying Trump will be good for US...cool I "could possibly" agree. I think USD will shot up more when Feds raise rates than it would if Trump wins
In short: Trump Trade = fiscal stimulus = higher inflation = higher interest rates = stronger dollar..

I just explained it in a short term to you. If you don't get it, well most likely you will never get it.
  • #1,185,065
  • Sep 24, 2020 9:54am Sep 24, 2020 9:54am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} In short: Trump Trade = fiscal stimulus = higher inflation = higher interest rates = stronger dollar.. I just explained it in a short term to you. If you don't get it, well most likely you will never get it.
sooo your telling me Trump implements something with US trade that will require fiscal stimulus

maybe i dont understand...

that seems like shooting yourself in the foot just so that you can get a Band-Aid for the wound
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  • #1,185,066
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:00am Sep 24, 2020 10:00am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} sooo your telling me Trump implements something with US trade that will require fiscal stimulus maybe i dont understand... that seems like shooting yourself in the foot just so that you can get a Band-Aid for the wound
you are right to be skeptical, the us is a mess lmao
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  • #1,185,067
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:00am Sep 24, 2020 10:00am
dont know if you all can see volume....but there is a ton of orders here...wonder if they are longs or shorts
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  • #1,185,068
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:02am Sep 24, 2020 10:02am
Quoting mistaouting
dont know if you all can see volume....but there is a ton of orders here...wonder if they are longs or shorts
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  • #1,185,069
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:03am Sep 24, 2020 10:03am
Quoting dzap
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its a lot going on in this area!
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  • #1,185,070
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:04am Sep 24, 2020 10:04am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} sooo your telling me Trump implements something with US trade that will require fiscal stimulus maybe i dont understand... that seems like shooting yourself in the foot just so that you can get a Band-Aid for the wound
Well than you just don't get it. USD will get stronger soon. Safe haven currency. It is not like shooting yourself in a foot. I don't know where do you get those stupid quotes, but you just don't get it and you won't get it.
  • #1,185,071
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:15am Sep 24, 2020 10:15am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Well than you just don't get it. USD will get stronger soon. Safe haven currency. It is not like shooting yourself in a foot. I don't know where do you get those stupid quotes, but you just don't get it and you won't get it.
I think I get your point...I didnt want to assume what you mean which is why I wanted you clarify.

Are you saying his trade deals will bring US manufacturing to the state and he will lower taxes for those business to offset the new production cost to have things made in the States rather than places they can made with very little cost? This will lead to more spending in the US and rise in prices followed by a rise in rates to fight the inflation?

EDIT: when will you get the fx futures positions for the week?
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  • #1,185,072
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:20am Sep 24, 2020 10:20am
If us gets more fiscal stimulus. Spx should not fall (stable) or boost up a bit.

also. Takes pressure off the fed. If we injected a trillion that gets spent, inflation rises. Rates stay lower for less time.

also usd was wayyy oversold. All the “dollar collapse” “losing reserve currency status” was a signal that move is overblown. Like 10+ years ago when that mentality was all over the Internet.

elections equal uncertainty. Uncertainty typically leads to dollar boost.
  • #1,185,073
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:21am Sep 24, 2020 10:21am
Quoting RideTheWave
If us gets more fiscal stimulus. Spx should not fall (stable) or boost up a bit. also. Takes pressure off the fed. If we injected a trillion that gets spent, inflation rises. Rates stay lower for less time. also usd was wayyy oversold. All the “dollar collapse” “losing reserve currency status” was a signal that move is overblown. Like 10+ years ago when that mentality was all over the Internet. elections equal uncertainty. Uncertainty typically leads to dollar boost.
makes total sense
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  • #1,185,074
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:28am Sep 24, 2020 10:28am
4 US News since 8:30 NY, and E. is treading same waters..... I ll fall asleepp........

  • #1,185,075
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:31am Sep 24, 2020 10:31am
I am with Techanalyst, but we may get a currency war.

ECB is crunching the EU and so does SNB, RBA, RBNZ... they can get numerous.. the Chinese also.

I think Trump will be mad and he will drop the Dollar!
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  • #1,185,076
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:33am Sep 24, 2020 10:33am
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} I think I get your point...I didnt want to assume what you mean which is why I wanted you clarify. Are you saying his trade deals will bring US manufacturing to the state and he will lower taxes for those business to offset the new production cost to have things made in the States rather than places they can made with very little cost? This will lead to more spending in the US and rise in prices followed by a rise in rates to fight the inflation? EDIT: when will you get the fx futures positions for the week?
True. Look at it this way, we the western society, have made China rich. By letting our rich greedy bastards, selling everything in North America and moving companies to China and countries like that, to use cheap labour so they can make millions and billions of dollars. So for them it is not enought to make 5 or 10 million a year. They want 50 or 100 or more millions a year. But they screw over the rest of the populations here in North America. Well that is going to stop. Our jobs will be back here soon, and the greedy rich bastard that want 100 millions a year it won't happen anymore. If they make 5-10 mill a year well, that is good and they will have no other choice but to accept that. Because they will not have another choice. But that amount of money 5-10 mill a year is amazing. If you want the labour to do the job here in North America, the rich greedy bastards will have to pay. We are not cheap here, and we don't work cheap here in North America. You have to pay good money to have good results. We will get our jobs back very soon, and we will recover. Same as other parts of the world, China will still be strong and have jobs and so on, but it won't be as before. We North America made China rich, now it is our time to get our jobs back and to make North America richer than ever before.
  • #1,185,077
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:36am Sep 24, 2020 10:36am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} True. Look at it this way, we the western society, have made China rich. By letting our rich greedy bastards, selling everything in North America and moving companies to China and countries like that, to use cheap labour so they can make millions and billions of dollars. So for them it is not enought to make 5 or 10 million a year. They want 50 or 100 or more millions a year. But they screw over the rest of the populations here in North America. Well that is going to stop. Our jobs will be back here soon, and the greedy rich bastard that...
I disagree, i think the global economy is here to stay. Jobs are moving out of china, but not back to USA

America first is an outdated concept
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  • #1,185,078
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:38am Sep 24, 2020 10:38am
Quoting Dzap
{quote} I disagree, i think the global economy is here to stay. Jobs are moving out of china, but not back to USA America first is an outdated concept
You're wrong. The whole point is to get the jobs back. It is happening now.
  • #1,185,079
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:39am Sep 24, 2020 10:39am
Quoting Dzap
{quote} I disagree, i think the global economy is here to stay. Jobs are moving out of china, but not back to USA America first is an outdated concept
In reality, you are wrong. Under obama we lost manufacturing jobs. Under Trump we gained manufacturing jobs. Americans are sick of everything being made in China, and most is cheap junk made by cheap slave labor. Trump is actually putting America first and many people do not like it.

A strong America is better for the world than a strong China.
  • #1,185,080
  • Sep 24, 2020 10:41am Sep 24, 2020 10:41am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} True. Look at it this way, we the western society, have made China rich. By letting our rich greedy bastards, selling everything in North America and moving companies to China and countries like that, to use cheap labour so they can make millions and billions of dollars. So for them it is not enought to make 5 or 10 million a year. They want 50 or 100 or more millions a year. But they screw over the rest of the populations here in North America. Well that is going to stop. Our jobs will be back here soon, and the greedy rich bastard that...
China is also beyond A human rights abuser to get the production they provide for the pay. It’d be cheaper regardless. But child labor. Suicide nets. Massive humans rights issues. All helped China’s cause to get factories and capital.
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