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  • Edited 1:12pm Sep 1, 2020 11:33am | Edited 1:12pm
ESSILOR Cycle + Trend Mode

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  • Edited 12:58pm Sep 1, 2020 12:18pm | Edited 12:58pm
ESSILOR Cycle Mode

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  • Sep 1, 2020 12:50pm Sep 1, 2020 12:50pm
STARBUCKS Cycle Mode + Trend Mode

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  • Sep 1, 2020 12:56pm Sep 1, 2020 12:56pm
STARBUCKS Cycle Mode

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  • #4,125
  • Sep 1, 2020 1:19pm Sep 1, 2020 1:19pm
Quoting parisboy
STARBUCKS Cycle Mode {image}
I see Sentient Trader does a good job, to late in life for this old dog to learn new tricks with specialist software , but if anything it as convinced me that actual Shares are the way for me
  • #4,126
  • Sep 1, 2020 1:38pm Sep 1, 2020 1:38pm
+ 6% today ?
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  • #4,127
  • Sep 1, 2020 3:02pm Sep 1, 2020 3:02pm
May be a little potential in this one ? + 16.28% today ?
Even with Old fashioned indicators
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  • #4,128
  • Sep 1, 2020 7:18pm Sep 1, 2020 7:18pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} rhk, I'm pondering why a range chart with price units on the x-axis (time) , could possibly show an oscillatory structure ? could you show us a "range chart" and define what ou call a range chart ? I often find that the range charts take on these channel structures when the mkt has spike moves. Its' as if price takes control of the mkt.. ? ( could you also show us an example TIA
Parisboy,
See link for an explanation of range bars https://www.investopedia.com/article...low%20markets.

For me a range chart is an expression of space/time. It is a "price" chart.
A "time" chart is our normal chart eg. 15 min, 1 hr charts etc.

From watching live charts , over time, I've noticed that when time charts kinda lose their "structure" ... ie.. they look messy and chaotic, then I often find there is structure in the range charts. (Especially so when there are news generated spike moves.) Most of the time I work with Normal time charts.

Those previous charts I posted , there was a range chart for the time spanning the spike movement shown in the 15 min chart.
I dont have any rules for when to use range charts. I look at them, more closely, when my t/line channels get messy on my normal charts.

attached is a .002 range chart from 21 aug to current, with simple channel work.
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  • #4,129
  • Sep 1, 2020 7:58pm Sep 1, 2020 7:58pm
Attached is a 720 min chart.
Nice channel giving a potential topping pattern.
The red arrows show , for me, the momentum/volatility aspect of cycles turning.

From my study of Gann, I came to to idea that the influence of time on price can only be properly seen in a multiple time frame environment.
The curving lines are simply a 20BB from different timeframes.
Interesting..

Paris boy... I agree with what you say about trend mode and cycle mode.
I look for a swing in a higher timeframe timeframe to manifest as a trend in a lower time frame.

So.. I'm a swing trader who trades trends !!
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  • Sep 3, 2020 6:17am Sep 3, 2020 6:17am
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  • Sep 3, 2020 6:28am Sep 3, 2020 6:28am
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  • #4,132
  • Sep 3, 2020 1:20pm Sep 3, 2020 1:20pm
Quoting rhk
I think I understand what u are saying.... many thks My understanding of Gann is that he explored the influence of time on price and also the influence of price on Time. eg. a price hi of 50 generates time cycles of 50. He saw that time and price were independent forces and he also saw that there was a relationship between them. Just like Hurst could not explain the "Why" of the oscillatory nature of price movement, Gann did not explain it either . ( thou I do have a bullet point list,maybe written by Billy jones, which says the fundamental vibratory...
I'm pondering why a range chart with price units on the x-axis (time) , could possibly show an oscillatory structure ?

When ORACLE oscillates (vibrates) around its "most important angle" (1 Price Unit x 1 Time Unit)

You just have to use the adequate tools with the correct (8 x 8) Time & Price parameters
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  • #4,133
  • Sep 4, 2020 3:15am Sep 4, 2020 3:15am
Can only work with what the this Platform gives me ?
These would not be on my shopping list yet ?
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  • #4,134
  • Sep 4, 2020 5:23am Sep 4, 2020 5:23am
Would be on a good rewards from a breakout of a normal congestion area ?
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  • #4,135
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:37am Sep 4, 2020 6:37am
Alain
Not sure if I should post anymore as my interest in forex is now zero and although you do show your method works for both Forex and Shares I believe the actual site is called Forex Factory for a reason
I am thankful to the ESMA rules( not really convinced if many guys really no what they need in there account to trade a full lot) that have been implemented in the Uk and Europe as they made me stand back and look at this form of trading and if it was the use of over leveraging that was good or even bad that made this form of trading attractive to me in the first place, as i am not ashamed to say I arrived being a gambler.
Now after many many years of winning a bit losing a bit but surviving without ever adding to my original account it seems a good time to move on
The new knowledge I have learned about trading,( a big part thanks to you) as now made me think its time to gamble but at a more slower pace and I do believe at a more safer one to in a different arena (Shares)
Over the last few months in particular your thread and indeed the( other one) as frightened me to death with all the geometry and all that is included in that subject as it's just become bewildering, yes interesting but way way over my head
All the talk about time, well do we look at 1min 15min 60min Daily Weekly Monthly wow its endless, the patterns, highs low are different in almost ever time frame, now we even after square our charts its just seems endless just to make a few pips with a tight stop loss that apparently are algo driven to be targeted at a latter date
I find it all interesting and greatly admire the guys that understand it, but as I keep saying its not for me
After spending some time looking at Shares they just feel a better way to go for me now, as I no longer want to be a slave to my charts in any timeframe shorter than Daily and to be honest a lot more interesting with all the data that is available in todays world.
I will leave it at that as i could keep going on and bore you to death , you can be assured I will always watch and support your thread but not the FX side
Dave
  • #4,136
  • Edited 11:48am Sep 4, 2020 11:38am | Edited 11:48am
Quoting OAPDave
Alain Not sure if I should post anymore as my interest in forex is now zero and although you do show your method works for both Forex and Shares I believe the actual site is called Forex Factory for a reason I am thankful to the ESMA rules( not really convinced if many guys really no what they need in there account to trade a full lot) that have been implemented in the Uk and Europe as they made me stand back and look at this form of trading and if it was the use of over leveraging that was good or even bad that made this form of trading attractive...
If FX is not for you, you can trade the indices. Have you check them out?

Long journey of yours from Clive's thread. Good luck with shares.
Know what you trade
  • #4,137
  • Sep 4, 2020 1:06pm Sep 4, 2020 1:06pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} If FX is not for you, you can trade the indices. Have you check them out? Long journey of yours from Clive's thread. Good luck with shares.
Thanks for your interest, yes been playing the game in one way or another for a fair while, do not want to get into a long winded debate but as I said in my post being a gambler, leverage of 500:1 was too good not to have ago, but now 20:1 not so interesting and 4:1 for indices does not appeal at all
Right or wrong and its just me but I would rather have no leverage and trade shares now, lots of very good share data available now to sift through
Alain as supplied lots of great insight and techniques for trading and I think I have picked a few up along the way as well.
I have reached a time in life that I need a new challenge to keep my brain alive and to be honest reading all the other threads and nonsense that they turn into as turned me off Fx trading completely
Thanks for your good wishes and the same to you
Dave
ps
Please do not suggest Options been there, seen it, done it
  • #4,138
  • Sep 4, 2020 1:23pm Sep 4, 2020 1:23pm
DAX 1 mn
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  • #4,139
  • Sep 4, 2020 10:48pm Sep 4, 2020 10:48pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Thanks for your interest, yes been playing the game in one way or another for a fair while, do not want to get into a long winded debate but as I said in my post being a gambler, leverage of 500:1 was too good not to have ago, but now 20:1 not so interesting and 4:1 for indices does not appeal at all Right or wrong and its just me but I would rather have no leverage and trade shares now, lots of very good share data available now to sift through Alain as supplied lots of great insight and techniques for trading and I think I have picked...
I read a post like this one and really have to wonder if over-regulation (and not the kind that actually protects traders/investors) is killing the industry? Does it benefit the powers that be to chase away all the retail traders in FX? I cannot see how.
  • #4,140
  • Sep 5, 2020 1:38am Sep 5, 2020 1:38am
Quoting clemmo17
{quote} I read a post like this one and really have to wonder if over-regulation (and not the kind that actually protects traders/investors) is killing the industry? Does it benefit the powers that be to chase away all the retail traders in FX? I cannot see how.
Thanks for the post most apricated
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