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  • #3,721
  • Jul 22, 2020 8:07am Jul 22, 2020 8:07am
Quoting acetrader
Hi Parisboy, I had a conversation with someone that knew Hurst & had a copy of the course he created. According to this trader Hurst was far ahead of his time when it came to cycles & trading cycles. Thank you & best of trades to you, OAPDave, Sohocool & the other great contributors to your thread. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Ace can this trader give you more informations about Hurst and his methods.

And more information on the life of Hurst AFTER he stopped his Cyclitec Course and Service ?
  • #3,722
  • Jul 22, 2020 9:47am Jul 22, 2020 9:47am
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Hi Sohocool, All is good with me. Thank you. I hope your doing well. This is the indicator I was speaking of. Very nice indicator, but unable to get it to load properly on some charts. Probably something I am doing incorrectly. You advice would be most appreciated.
Acetrader,

i am fine, thanks you.

The best way is : can you post a chart with PB Channel V1 only ,so i could check.



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  • #3,723
  • Jul 22, 2020 9:50am Jul 22, 2020 9:50am
Quoting devontrader
{quote} just an idea,,,,use the inner channel as price and keep the 2 outer channels price = 5min inner channel = 15 min outer channel = 1hr {image}
Good idea ,

Please can you tell us the half period (or period) of 15 min channel and 1Hr Channel.

KISS&V :Keep it simple safe & visual
  • #3,724
  • Jul 22, 2020 1:10pm Jul 22, 2020 1:10pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Ace can this trader give you more informations about Hurst and his methods. And more information on the life of Hurst AFTER he stopped his Cyclitec Course and Service ?

I will attempt to make contact with him & ask him.
  • #3,725
  • Jul 22, 2020 1:35pm Jul 22, 2020 1:35pm
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Hi Sohocool, All is good with me. Thank you. I hope your doing well. This is the indicator I was speaking of. Very nice indicator, but unable to get it to load properly on some charts. Probably something I am doing incorrectly. You advice would be most appreciated.

Acetrader,

The good address is here :

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...9#post12775809

KISS&V :Keep it simple safe & visual
  • #3,726
  • Jul 22, 2020 1:57pm Jul 22, 2020 1:57pm
Quoting Sohocool
{quote} Acetrader, The good address is here : https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...9#post12775809

Sohocool,
Thank you for that link. Later today going to post up some charts with that indicator & some charts for Parisboy to take a look at.
  • #3,727
  • Jul 23, 2020 5:25am Jul 23, 2020 5:25am
Hello everyone,
Parisboy first I want to thank you for this lovely thread and your generous to share your knowledge.

I am reading your wonderful thread for 2 days, lots of amazing information. thank you.

Post#879 simulate a composite wave and FLD(16) {I think}

I think valid crosses are A,B,D,E,F,H and we don't trade C and G.
LONGs: A,E
SHORTs: B,D,F,H

Is it true?

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this is for range market.

I am still on theories.
and sorry for my English.
  • #3,728
  • Jul 23, 2020 5:50am Jul 23, 2020 5:50am
Quoting ardalan91
Hello everyone, Parisboy first I want to thank you for this lovely thread and your generous to share your knowledge. I am reading your wonderful thread for 2 days, lots of amazing information. thank you. Post#879 simulate a composite wave and FLD(16) {I think} I think valid crosses are A,B,D,E,F,H and we don't trade C and G. LONGs: A,E SHORTs: B,D,F,H Is it true? {image} this is for range market. I am still on theories. and sorry for my English.
Ardalan91

the best for you to understand and see the limits of use of a FLD is to PRACTICE on a demo account IMHO

The example listed listed in Post 849 was showed in a video by David Hickson the creator of the Sentient Trader software based on Hurst's methodology.

I have underlined that :

- this example is useful when Price action is in range

conclusions on what to do are at least debatable when the trend is Up or Down
moreover IMHO I consider the Amplitude of the Cycles used to generate the FLD's as significant parameters when opening a position

To summarize : my understanding of the practical use of FLD's for trading is similar but different of David Hickson use.

Every trader has his temperament and an efficient methodology IMHO has to offer some flexibility
  • #3,729
  • Jul 23, 2020 6:00am Jul 23, 2020 6:00am
thank you ParisBOY,

I was wondering is it possible to use FDLs according to trend and LONG and Shorts categories.
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only LONG points (A,E)

I am a newbie learner so forgive me if I have some mistake and misunderstanding.

Thank you
  • #3,730
  • Jul 23, 2020 6:41am Jul 23, 2020 6:41am
Hi Sohocool,
Here is the chart with
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PB Cycle_V1.03t. On other pairs the lines all expand & turn into envelopes.
  • #3,731
  • Jul 23, 2020 7:45am Jul 23, 2020 7:45am
Try Different Amplitudesjust Observation)


GBPUSD

1 M / 15 min (I don't know yet how to reach 1M from 15 min although, I am appreciate if explain)

256 bandwidth : about 800 point //// 128 : about 400 //// 32: about 200
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simulate with these amps: somehow elimination of C & G

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again in range.

what I can see is the 256 is on a uptrend which is not considered in simulation. 128 is nearly range and 32 is down somehow.
  • #3,732
  • Jul 23, 2020 8:42am Jul 23, 2020 8:42am
VTL Degree 1 Broken

Go Long

another meaning is the the lowest point (bottom) of upper wave is achieved.{is it right?} (how could we use it?) for drawing VTL degree 2 Maybe//
your comment is appreciated.
Thanks

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  • #3,733
  • Jul 23, 2020 9:07am Jul 23, 2020 9:07am
GBPUSD (near upper bands - not Valid Trend Line)

the upper bans of 32 & 128 bands was so near so I thought it maybe an opportunity to short and then consider that as a downward VTL D1 (blue line)
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but this is what happened, the pink (not a Valid Trend line {i think because have a upper level bottom in between}), is it right?
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  • #3,734
  • Jul 23, 2020 9:43am Jul 23, 2020 9:43am
Is it a VTL?

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  • #3,735
  • Jul 23, 2020 10:00am Jul 23, 2020 10:00am
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  • #3,736
  • Jul 23, 2020 2:26pm Jul 23, 2020 2:26pm
Thank you ParisBoy,

there is a VTL Degree 2 (upward) broken so we have a peak of level 3 (256) showed in pic
but there is a downward VTL (degree 1) so we should have bottom in level 2 (128) but I can't see that, is something wrong?
Thank you.
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  • #3,737
  • Jul 23, 2020 2:51pm Jul 23, 2020 2:51pm
the VTL is broken, GO long

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Edit: I doubt about validity of the line, and I think it was invalid , because of the circle bottom.
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  • #3,738
  • Jul 23, 2020 2:51pm Jul 23, 2020 2:51pm
Quoting ardalan91
Thank you ParisBoy, there is a VTL Degree 2 (upward) broken so we have a peak of level 3 (256) showed in pic but there is a downward VTL (degree 1) so we should have bottom in level 2 (128) but I can't see that, is something wrong? Thank you.{image}
ANALYSIS
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  • #3,739
  • Jul 23, 2020 3:09pm Jul 23, 2020 3:09pm
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  • #3,740
  • Jul 23, 2020 3:11pm Jul 23, 2020 3:11pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} ANALYSIS {image}
Than you so much.
sorry to mess your thread, i try to learn.
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