Sam Seiden Goes DOWN

Pinpointing which SupDem to use is actually pretty easy:

https://marketstalkers.thinkific.com/
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=958722

Thats alright buddy. Don't need to see or "learn" any of that..

It seems it doesn't matter, whatever I say there seems to be many fans of "S&D" concept in charts... and this people always answer the same thing.. "You should study".. Lol..

I really don't need to learn any of this. As I already said many times.. Any concept could work.. As long as you know what you are doing and how to manage your capital being at risk.

No more answers from me on this thread.. I thought it was dead already.

Cheers

No worries, just wanted you to see that people are successful using supply/demand. I was trained by two different institutional traders. The fact that both worked for several well known big money institutions over the years and both focus on supply/demand during their careers at those institutions suggested to me that that's what the big money uses. and that leads to the concept of just riding the big money's coat tails. So, I took what I was taught, we all have to learn stuff to be successful, right, and put my own twist on it and became an overnight success in 12 years.

Like every other concept in trading, I discovered that supply/demand isn't something that will do well by itself so I added sentiment. That's when it clicked for me. Everyone sees things a different way and that's okay. That's why I started my thread...because no one will 'get it' and trade my way, BUT, if a few people can take one thing from what I do and another thing from what someone else does and put their own thing together and become a successful consistent trader than that will be reason enough to have a thread on FF. that's what it's about... Well, that and allowing me to journal and get the trading thoughts out of my head and on paper.

good luck to you and do keep posting here...you didn't come across as a jerk like many on FF do and that is very much appreciated!

Trade on the way that is best for you. nothing else matter.

It's a shame but I found his trading ideas to be very reasonable.

Supply/Demand trading ideas are still reasonable. What it seems became unreasonable to some was the process of keeping students paying. And, what we may be finding out is that Sam left the organization because he disagreed with what he saw happening.

So, please don't throw the sup/dem baby out with the bathwater. It's validity has nothing to do with one or two imperfect humans.

Sup/Dem works for many people in many different ways: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...s-it-out-of-my?

Hii,
exuse me only to expand my knowledge what is your experience about COT?
The informations get some results in a short or medium term?
Usually they are one week late is it correct?
Thanks a lot for your patience and your support

The institutions get them every Tuesday, so they are able to see it right away. It becomes available to the public on Fridays. So it is only three days late. I would have to say they work much better if you trade on daily, weekly and monthly. You can also use it on shorter time frames but not holding positions for long. I trade long term, so I only look at non-commercial and take it as another tool in my trading strategy. If for example EURUSD is bullish overall, but there are always pullbacks obviously, and you look at the reports, and you see that non commercials majority are still in buy and you see added positions, that means it is long term bullish. If you see it reverse a bit, and you look at dealers numbers or commercial numbers and see that majority are sell, that can be helpful if you want to enter sell positions on short term. I hope this helps. But remember do not just rely on that, just use it as another tool in trading strategy. Trade safe.

what after two years is the verdict against Sam Seiden? Could not find anything on google, a slap on the hand pay 1 thousand $ fine and now in the clear or what?

Thanks a lot I'm trying to studi a Daily breakout strategy based on adr , I 'll try to insert this information to avoid false breakout. It can be really useful. Where do you collect It? Or I ' ll use yours intersting tread as wells

Cftc website. Once you are there under "market data & economic analysis" you will see commitments of traders and click that.

https://twitter.com/realsamseiden?lang=en

It says here, that he is no longer with online trading academy (OTA). But OTA is still open and teaching.

Hello everyone,
I just found this thread. I did not read past the first page because I feel everyone has collected together in mob fashion to discredit OTA and Sam Seiden.
I took OTA's core strategy and Forex courses.
I do not know Sam and I've never met him. I have no opinions.

Let me introduce myself,
I'm Larry, I have been a licensed Electrician for 26 years. I'm a Master. I've always been broke.
January 2017 I discovered trading on Robinhood and Tdameritrade.
I was educated in the ways of you tube, Learning form traders such as Tim Sykes, Adam Khoo, Sasha Evdakov, and others.
Before I learned about OTA, I followed the advice from you tube teachers and used 6 different indicators to show me the direction my Price was going.
No matter how much I studied I could never break past $500.00. When I entered a trade "knowing" it was going up,,,, It always went down. When I "cut my losses" the price went thru the roof.

I learn best in a classroom and was looking for somewhere to learn. I contacted raging bull, clay trader, Tim Sykes but couldnt get the information I needed.
I'm not that smart to memorize patterns and figures such as butterfly's and so forth. Needless to say I had to keep working overtime hours just to stay above water.

In March 2019 I discovered OTA, I attended the free half day and then I attended the free 3 day class. I didn't know what OTA charged, The "salesman" never mentioned money and neither did the guy assigned to me as a "coach", someone who answers questions in between break of the 3 day.
I was the first person to ask what OTA charged. And when I found out, I asked the "coach" for direction on what courses I needed to take. They Offered Financing.
He was very helpful.

My first 7 day class I took was on "Core Strategy" this course teaches the foundation of charting, how to make trades, and what to look for in the market. Now I know "when to get in a trade and when to get out". Core Strategy is the foundation of my trading. The stuff I learned on YouTube is extra knowledge that I'll always use.
I was working a full time job, I couldn't watch my stocks because I either had no reception on my phone or couldn't trade. The market closed before I got off of work.
My "coach" suggested that I enroll in their Forex class. I did not know anything about Forex (FX) but after taking the class, I know what I'm doing.

For a refresher I took the "core Strategy for free which is part of their program.
I am a student of the Denver, Colorado OTA. I will honestly say that ALL members from the Owner, teachers, assistants and students have a positive, helpful attitude.
In my classes, there were aged persons who were not "computer friendly", they lived on pensions, retirement, social security and life savings. There were younger persons graduated from High School and there were persons like myself that just needed more money to pay the bills.
OTA provides "hope, reassurance and an education".

I've never met Sam Seiden, I've never talked to him, The only thing about him that I know is that he worked in Chicago and he teaches "supply and Demand".
I've watched many of his webinars both on you tube and OTA's website. I've only learned so much about how to trade from OTA in the class but I've learned so much extra from Sam's videos. OTA and Sam have greatly helped my trading.

I dont work for OTA, I'm only a student. Before OTA I couldn't get past $500.00, After taking OTA AND CONTINUING TO STUDY - I've made over $4,000.00 and I'm not rich, I still struggle financially but now I know how to make extra money without having to find side jobs and work longer hours.

How many times have you been on a chat room and everyone's asking when to sell, when to buy?
How many times in that chatroom has the person with experience (guru) been wrong?
How much does a College education cost?
If you want to take something in finance dont they require you to take additional other courses? Even courses NOT related to Financial.
How confident are you in your trading abilities?
Are you "winning, then losing, then winning, then losing?
Are you truly happy or ready to give up trading?
Are you looking for someone to help you learn how to trade? But that "guru" is doing their own trade and making money before they help everyone else?
Are you letting someone else control your retirement account? When it loses money what do you do?
Are you happy with the returns?

Theres many great services "gurus" out there that are very good.
Find one that works for you, then in 5 years Call OTA.
You will not get rich with any trading service not even OTA.,,, "IF YOU DONT CONTINUE TO STUDY", there are no "magic formula, pills etc".
"YOU HAVE TO STUDY". Never stop learning.
OTA and Sam's teachings have provided a "foundation" for my trading abilities of which I'm very thankful for.
If you have a problem with what OTA charges? the Forget about it and move on. Trading isnt for you.
If you have a problem with Sam, Forget about him and move on. His teaching arent for you.

I dont know the News about OTA and Sam,I dont care.
The only thing I care about is the education I paid for and the results it's providing me and the direction I'm going.

Cheers
Larry

Closed it at 1.6860 took profit there. S&D order flows strategy works.

Nice bro! Glad it's working for you!

Are you still using CoT report for trading???

Share some of the knowledge, how do you do interpretation of that??

Hey guys!
Can I have indicator ploting two most traded open interest from option chain of the stock.
Also another indicator ploting gap up or gap down.
U can club them too.

So? have you read my message above??

I have been trading for 3 years and I`ve just come across with Sam Seiden S/D strategy. I dont rule out the flaws and randomness in his strategy but we are safe to say altogether is OK actually! To be honest almost EVERY strategy is working in this market and you just have to know HOW and WHEN to utilize them.. I know it and I guess any experienced trader knows it. Didnt have the time to explore what the lawsuit was about but I`m kind of surprised!

Sam Sieden is back, even after Online Trading Academy being sued by the US Federal Trade Commision! Watch out for the Fraud! This guy is like Covid, it will not go away. Makes you wonder how much he made off of the fraud with Online Trading Academy?

Please help get this out for the buyer to beware.

https://theseidenstrategies.com/

this may of also have to do with who lost what

some people have a lot of money, so you have this guy that pays for the course, completes it and then fills an account w 300k only to lose it 6 months later, he then goes crazy and consumed by blind rage uses another 150 k to launch legal action against the outfit that trained him