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Quoting RickW00716
{quote} Fascinating! I'm curious as to what you mean by "shape", though. Thank you
Different shape GRINDS are created when price attacks a liquidity pool due to order density and order size from aggressive orders.
Some of these have small spikes, some have small or large pullback areas but all really give away a signal of how major this move will be in DISTANCE.
So we are not trading price action but rather trading price mechanics.
Its best to understand first how Thin Liquidity affects price movement. Then the realisation on how the market is being manipulated hits you in the head.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
Quoting RickM
{quote} Different shape GRINDS are created when price attacks a liquidity pool due to order density and order size from aggressive orders. Some of these have small spikes, some have small or large pullback areas but all really give away a signal of how major this move will be in DISTANCE. So we are not trading price action but rather trading price mechanics. Its best to understand first how Thin Liquidity affects price movement. Then the realisation on how the market is being manipulated hits you in the head.
Thank you, I'd like to learn more about this concept. Any suggestions as where to start?
Quoting RickW00716
{quote} Thank you, I'd like to learn more about this concept. Any suggestions as where to start?
Thin Liquidity is your friend
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Quoting RickM
{quote} Thin Liquidity is your friend {image}
Similar to the way I trade, but with horizontal lines.
The Only Limit, is the One that you Set Yourself - Felix Baumgartner
It is remarkable that this thread has gone from being about the forex fraudster Sam Seiden's downfall to another useless thread on a trading method.It really does show what a bunch losers the retail forex traders are.
Quoting edge540
It is remarkable that this thread has gone from being about the forex fraudster Sam Seiden's downfall to another useless thread on a trading method.It really does show what a bunch losers the retail forex traders are.
Quoting edge540
It is remarkable that this thread has gone from being about the forex fraudster Sam Seiden's downfall to another useless thread on a trading method.It really does show what a bunch losers the retail forex traders are.
Yes, quite useless. I'm very ashamed of my trading using supply/demand this week.
Here's the useless link if you'd like to see more uselessness:

Oh, wait. Nope, you don't deserve the opportunity to learn something that might work for you. If I gave it to you you would see from my last entry that I was looking for a trade on G/J at 131.39. Now go look at a chart of gj to see what that's done for me.
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Quoting CashBox
{quote} Yes, quite useless. I'm very ashamed of my trading using supply/demand this week. Here's the useless link if you'd like to see more uselessness: Oh, wait. Nope, you don't deserve the opportunity to learn something that might work for you. If I gave it to you you would see from my last entry that I was looking for a trade on G/J at 131.39. Now go look at a chart of gj to see what that's done for me. {image}
Wow that is an incredible performance,I have have to admit I've never had any success at this forex business but you are clearly an amazing trader.Will you teach me how to trade like you do?Money is no object,I'm happy to pay you for your knowledge.
Quoting edge540
{quote} Wow that is an incredible performance,I have have to admit I've never had any success at this forex business but you are clearly an amazing trader.Will you teach me how to trade like you do?Money is no object,I'm happy to pay you for your knowledge.
I'm not much of a people person so I don't teach, but you're welcome to follow along. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...9#post12941519

There are several successful traders on here like Aussi https://www.metalsmine.com/showthread.php?t=930946 He doesn't teach either, but his thread has been around a lot longer.
Quoting RickM
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Man this thread is some funny ish
Quoting CashBox
{quote} I'm not much of a people person so I don't teach, but you're welcome to follow along. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...9#post12941519 There are several successful traders on here like Aussi https://www.metalsmine.com/showthread.php?t=930946 He doesn't teach either, but his thread has been around a lot longer.
Thanks for the link to your awesome thread,this is what I've been looking for...a successful trader who has the balls to post actual trades and results.Thanks.
PS Do you still live at home in your mother's basement and have you ever had a girl/boy friend?
Quoting edge540
{quote} Thanks for the link to your awesome thread,this is what I've been looking for...a successful trader who has the balls to post actual trades and results.Thanks. PS Do you still live at home in your mother's basement and have you ever had a girl/boy friend?
This is basically a Reddit thread now.
Quoting edge540
{quote} Thanks for the link to your awesome thread,this is what I've been looking for...a successful trader who has the balls to post actual trades and results.Thanks. PS Do you still live at home in your mother's basement and have you ever had a girl/boy friend?
Sorry, didn't notice you were still here since I was in the middle of closing more lots on a 40 pip move that I called 2 hours before it happened. And, yes, my bad for not catching that you were being sarcastic earlier. I've been on this forum since 2007 and I'm not going anywhere so feel free to keep bashing me. I really don't care.
Quoting CashBox
{quote} Sorry, didn't notice you were still here since I was in the middle of closing more lots on a 40 pip move that I called 2 hours before it happened. And, yes, my bad for not catching that you were being sarcastic earlier. I've been on this forum since 2007 and I'm not going anywhere so feel free to keep bashing me. I really don't care.
Hi CashBox

I have followed your work in Aussie’s thread and you have improved your trading skills greatly over the last year. Your work looks good now but please don’t fall into the trap thinking you need to show large lot trade sizes to impress other traders. I did notice on your thread you had crossed out all figures relating to trade size and profit size etc.
Most traders can relate to trading with mini lots and are just interested in your level of skill, nothing more. Please change that screen shot of your results so we can get a better picture of your results and I will become your biggest as fan well ha ha.

Its not the size that matters but how you use it
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Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi CashBox I have followed your work in Aussie’s thread and you have improved your trading skills greatly over the last year. Your work looks good now but please don’t fall into the trap thinking you need to show large lot trade sizes to impress other traders. I did notice on your thread you had crossed out all figures relating to trade size and profit size etc. Most traders can relate to trading with mini lots and are just interested in your level of skill, nothing more. Please change that screen shot of your results so we can get a better...
Thanks, RickM. Are you talking about a screen shot on Aussi's thread? Most of my posts on his thread are temporary until he sees them so that one should be gone already. I'll go back and check. I show him my work from time to time because I owe him many times over for encouraging me to do my thread because it helps me when i journal.
I don't have a screen shot of the account on my thread and I black out the lot size because it is big and I don't want people focused on lot size. The reason I posted it on here tonight is because I got fed up with the negative junk that was said and wanted people to see it's possible to succeed. It's also why i suggest Aussi's thread to people...he's much better than me and posts his results and they need to see success as much as possible on FF and realize they can do this. People work for years and years to become consistent traders so they already have enough negative things without coming on here to be harassed.
@RickM ,nice post 543 how can i see liquidity on my mt4 chart? thank you in advance
Quoting nozzer
@RickM ,nice post 543 how can i see liquidity on my mt4 chart? thank you in advance
I would say experience with thousands of hours of chart time, especially on a 1 minute chart.
Or you can start with a Market profile indicator.

Visit the thread "Auction Market Theory and Market Profile"
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
Thanks a lot RickM you seem to know your onions,i dont know why you dont open your own thread up and have a go at enlightening a few of us on FF !
Quoting SirOrigami
https://www.tradingschools.org/onlin...s-its-a-fraud/ The United States Federal Trade Commission has finally exploded the Online Trading Academy. .....
Already for weeks many posts has nothing to do with topic of this thread...It appear that only losers, incapable "traders to be" complained about Sam Seiden and OTA.

In his videos on FXStreet Sam Seiden fully disclosed core of trading. Instructors from OTA in their "letters from the Pros" shown and described entire system in many examples still could not help to many...those individuals expected magic indicator and there are many based on Sam Seiden's system still doesn't help to many.

Just because Sam Seiden can do it and few more doesn't mean that everyone can do it. Trading like any other profession requires thinking . those who cannot think, make logical conclusions fail and then complain...

Trading is business of those who can move price. those investors and institutions control price and time for PA meaning those two variable can be manipulated. That is OK. Trading is manipulated but not random ever.

As Sam Seiden said many times trading is based on Supply and Demand and he refers to Adam Smith 101 economics, equilibrium...Traders failure and success comes from trader's ability to recognize where are supply and demand. This is fundamental starting point. Besides this many other factors shape and determine trader's success and failure. one of this factors is traders personality.

On personal note: I learned trading fundamental from Sam's videos and OTA's letters from the pros...in December 2018 publicly Sam Seiden announced departure from OTA...he used and manipulated his twitter followers to make deal with OTA. That was the end between me and idealization of Sam Seiden as trader of all time.

Focusing on trading alone (excluding personality) I do believe that Sam Seiden is #1 trader of all time.
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