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  • #5,021
  • Jul 25, 2018 3:32pm Jul 25, 2018 3:32pm
EU:
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  • #5,022
  • Jul 25, 2018 3:45pm Jul 25, 2018 3:45pm
Guys.....

no worries........

the latest attacks against me from trolls won't last....

I am working on sth.

Be patient.

FF
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  • #5,023
  • Jul 26, 2018 12:16am Jul 26, 2018 12:16am
Hi FF, do you think that by not putting SL level on trading terminal (but in mind) will help traders
  • #5,024
  • Jul 26, 2018 2:52am Jul 26, 2018 2:52am
Quoting FractalFreak
See this GJ H4 chart. YES, there are STILL DM longies in the market. YES, there are still MTs at the low. So I am NOT saying it is not tradable. HOWEVER, after such a long and pronounced downtrend as in GJ now, it is not difficult to understand that "tradability" decreases, simply because the more OR a market gets, the higher the likelihood that the SM Algos will just do a "normal" grip move back into the range; even before going for the low again. The reason is that in such situations, the DM tolerance is increased. So in other words, the SM will...
Thanks again FF for your effort!

Here is my thoughts about this manipulation:
- There are certain limits that within SM can operate. If EU is today 1.2000 it cant be 1.800 tomorrow It would not be plausible
- Because pairs are cross-related it is most favorable to manipulate those that are most liquid (holds a big amount of stoplosses (=money))
- So even there are a lot of DM longs it is certainly not 100% sure that rate will go down -> there is always bigger picture / goal that SM will do
- Like in this GJ H4 example that we used, it is clearly shown that even there comes new DM longs, the downtrend isn't / can't be infinite
- Pre stop-run-countermoves are used to quickly drop those who were on the right side

There are always a small amount of winners. On your charts you are only showing stoplosses. I think that SM should should consider those winning trades? I have been exploring that Oandas order book and I have found that there are often also considerable amount of winners. So should we calculate the net amount of winning-losing traders?

And even your reply to me was a good one, I would still like to know that how you exactly define outer and inner ranges on that specific GJ H4 chart? how should we understand that: "outer range H4 (OR): range of last month"

EDIT: And thanks for those daily charts. I will check these..
  • #5,025
  • Jul 26, 2018 3:44am Jul 26, 2018 3:44am
"- Because pairs are cross-related it is most favorable to manipulate those that are most liquid (holds a big amount of stoplosses (=money))"

Yes. See my post on the "EG magic".

FF
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  • #5,026
  • Jul 26, 2018 3:45am Jul 26, 2018 3:45am
"the downtrend isn't / can't be infinite"

Yes, nothing is infinite in FX.

FF
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  • #5,027
  • Jul 26, 2018 3:45am Jul 26, 2018 3:45am
"If EU is today 1.2000 it cant be 1.800 tomorrow It would not be plausible"

YES.

FF
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  • #5,028
  • Jul 26, 2018 3:46am Jul 26, 2018 3:46am
"There are always a small amount of winners."

YES.

FF
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  • #5,029
  • Jul 26, 2018 3:47am Jul 26, 2018 3:47am
WELL DONE tonnikala!

YOU are the one who now raised the CIQ (collective intelligence quotient) to 64!

Congrats!
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  • #5,030
  • Jul 26, 2018 3:48am Jul 26, 2018 3:48am
EU will take the upper MT at 1.17268.
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  • #5,031
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:04am Jul 26, 2018 4:04am
Quoting FractalFreak
Yes. See my post on the "EG magic"
I saw that one. On that case you have good odds in your favor. For example when you take long on EG, there are multiple outcomes (EU up & GU down, EU up & GU flat, etc), but you will profit on most of them.


Quoting FractalFreak
WELL DONE tonnikala! YOU are the one who now raised the CIQ (collective intelligence quotient) to 64! Congrats!
Whoa! Thanks I have been lurking around Forexfactory forums for a couple of years, but because of this thread I registered to this forum.
  • #5,032
  • Edited 4:28am Jul 26, 2018 4:09am | Edited 4:28am
Quoting FractalFreak
"Sincerely, I'm not convinced that DM (Corporation) and SM use 15 min charts or even pay any attention to lower than H4." Sorry to disappoint, but the SM even goes lower than M15. But we cannot play on an even level with them. I have shown with particular SHORT-TERM tricks they use on lower time frames: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzWZqmZEO0w
Hi FractalFreak,

I understand from all of your hard work that the manipulation is evident and real.
But I am perplexed as to who is doing it? And how they are doing it all at the same time?

DM = all of the retail traders & some institutions -->> uncoordinated & trading various technical & other methods

SM - Smart Money -->> using Algo trading to enter and exit positions by taking DM positions & stops

Question - for all of the SM to undertake the same trades & trading methodology , are they
1. colluding via information sharing ?
2. colluding via the same Algo software ?
3. trading as a collective ?
4. colluding by using the exact same "shared" trading method ?
5. using some other method of acting as a Collective ?
  • #5,033
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:21am Jul 26, 2018 4:21am
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  • #5,034
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:28am Jul 26, 2018 4:28am
"Question - for all of the SM to undertake the same trades & trading methodology , are they
1. colluding via information sharing ?
2. colluding via the same Algo software ?
3. trading as a collective ?
4. colluding by using the exact same "shared" trading method ?
5. using some other method of acting as a Collective ?"


silverau,
YES.

I have shown in my videos how they USE 'DARK POOLS' and similiar "parrallel markets", despite I do not have proof for that particular point.
The ALGOS get coordinated there. They do not use a "trading method". Regarding their "info sharing", see the screenshot (from a newspaper article!).

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  • #5,035
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:30am Jul 26, 2018 4:30am
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  • #5,036
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:32am Jul 26, 2018 4:32am
"Whoa! Thanks I have been lurking around Forexfactory forums for a couple of years, but because of this thread I registered to this forum."

Welcome dear.

Many ppl here registered because of this thread. I THANK YOU.

Stay safe.

FF
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  • #5,037
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:36am Jul 26, 2018 4:36am
AU (yummy yummy!):
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  • #5,038
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:38am Jul 26, 2018 4:38am
NU (yummy yummy!):
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  • #5,039
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:39am Jul 26, 2018 4:39am
GU:
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  • #5,040
  • Jul 26, 2018 4:40am Jul 26, 2018 4:40am
EG (flatty flat):
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