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  • #101
  • May 7, 2018 7:58am May 7, 2018 7:58am
I think one of the most difficult endeavors one could face.. Is starting with a 1k deposit, doubling in within half a year while maintaining a decent enough DD.

Truth be told, with a ROI of at least 100% a year, I'm OK with a 30-40% DD.
  • #102
  • May 7, 2018 8:14am May 7, 2018 8:14am
Quoting carddard
I think one of the most difficult endeavors one could face.. Is starting with a 1k deposit, doubling in within half a year while maintaining a decent enough DD. Truth be told, with a ROI of at least 100% a year, I'm OK with a 30-40% DD.
I agree with you on these numbers because in the end you are risking 40% to make 100% that means R:R of 1:2.5 that is good.

A methodology that works fine in ranging and trending markets is for example Supply & Demand but it's hard to automate it.

Thanks
  • #103
  • May 7, 2018 11:19am May 7, 2018 11:19am
If any of you guys can high light a well working "instruments strength" displaying tool (or indicator),might be half of work seems done as per my little knowing,though i tested numerous toys of same line in since many years but i am not satisfied with any of those hundreds - why a trader should be rush in ranging market situations (sorry,though am talking against the thread topic)
i am taking in consideration traders,those afford account level from 500 US to 5000 US,and this is the majority of retail traders in the whole online trading community,there are so many good and winning strategies and tools but always mostly (if not all) fails and clean their accounts in ranging/choppy market situations
  • #104
  • May 10, 2018 11:43am May 10, 2018 11:43am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} When I came across your thread, I have really thought someone is finally thinking along the same lines I have been for over 3yrs now. Looks like the thread has stalled. Trading without regard to market conditions or price levels can be a gold mine :-) I suggest you take charge and invigorate this thread. Your readers won't regret it. Edit: more details in the screenshots I posted on the Diversified Trend Trading thread. {image}
Ciao VEEFX
If you are trading regardless of market conditions of price levels means you are using a hedging or grid strategy I guess.
Would you mind to explain a bit your approach?
I read some of your posts in the thread you mentioned but didn't really understood your approach.
Regards
  • #105
  • May 10, 2018 10:08pm May 10, 2018 10:08pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} When I came across your thread, I have really thought someone is finally thinking along the same lines I have been for over 3yrs now. Looks like the thread has stalled. Trading without regard to market conditions or price levels can be a gold mine :-) I suggest you take charge and invigorate this thread. Your readers won't regret it. Edit: more details in the screenshots I posted on the Diversified Trend Trading thread. {image}
I'm sure everyone will appreciate your views on this subject.
Thoughts? =D
  • #106
  • May 12, 2018 10:33am May 12, 2018 10:33am
People like VEEFX just post their mental illness and philosophical thoughts just to impress others but can never speak in reality or give practical solutions or share clear solid strategy... Just ignore.........
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  • #107
  • May 12, 2018 11:31am May 12, 2018 11:31am
Any fractal experts here?
  • #108
  • May 12, 2018 1:24pm May 12, 2018 1:24pm
Quoting carddard
Any fractal experts here?
nice try
trading relatively turtle pairs w/o stop loss or any exit in loss. averaging down w more n more entries when goes against well done till eurusd left d range n tanks.
MC is just d matter of time
WaBaS Where are Buyers and Sellers
  • #109
  • May 12, 2018 1:40pm May 12, 2018 1:40pm
I have a winning strategy and need some ea creators to help on it...
step 1: A new order to be opened (buy or sell)
step 2: Two pending stop orders to be placed above and below above order at x pips
step 3: If one of the pending triggered, other to be deleted.
step 4: Repeat step 2
step 5: All open & pending orders to be closed at x $ profit
can anyone help
  • #110
  • May 13, 2018 3:40am May 13, 2018 3:40am
Quoting kannancbein
I have a winning strategy and need some ea creators to help on it... step 1: A new order to be opened (buy or sell) step 2: Two pending stop orders to be placed above and below above order at x pips step 3: If one of the pending triggered, other to be deleted. step 4: Repeat step 2 step 5: All open & pending orders to be closed at x $ profit can anyone help
There has to be more filters. Otherwise you would end up with too many open orders and you would just accumulate negative swap overtime. Tested and proven.
  • #111
  • May 13, 2018 3:43am May 13, 2018 3:43am
Quoting kannancbein
I have a winning strategy and need some ea creators to help on it... step 1: A new order to be opened (buy or sell) step 2: Two pending stop orders to be placed above and below above order at x pips step 3: If one of the pending triggered, other to be deleted. step 4: Repeat step 2 step 5: All open & pending orders to be closed at x $ profit can anyone help
This kind of strategy has been shared thousand of times and hundred's of grid EA's available over internet based on this. Always fails in trend.
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  • #112
  • May 13, 2018 5:52am May 13, 2018 5:52am
@carddard

I have a methodology that works fine in trending/ranging market and is called Supply & Demand.
I don't know if it can be automated but I'm using it manually.
Maybe can be an idea for you to consider.

To improve the performance of the methodology is necessary to use some sort of recovery system instead of taking the loss time to time.
I know the following recovery systems:
1) Grid: good in ranging but bad in trending markets.
2) Hedge: good in trending but bad in ranging markets.

My question for you is: do you know something a bit more smarter than the above recoveries?

Regards
  • #113
  • May 13, 2018 8:21am May 13, 2018 8:21am
Quoting Merka
@carddard I have a methodology that works fine in trending/ranging market and is called Supply & Demand. I don't know if it can be automated but I'm using it manually. Maybe can be an idea for you to consider. To improve the performance of the methodology is necessary to use some sort of recovery system instead of taking the loss time to time. I know the following recovery systems: 1) Grid: good in ranging but bad in trending markets. 2) Hedge: good in trending but bad in ranging markets. My question for you is: do you know something a bit more...
My immediate thoughts on this are to study the currency pairs a little bit more closely. If you look hard enough there are areas of high probability entries. The way I see this is, a good exit strategy is like a bullet proof vest that shields you from shrapnels. You still may get hit once in a while or even killed. On the other hand, a good entry method may mean avoiding the war altogether so you minimize your chances of getting killed.

If you are still on the journey of figuring out the best recovery method, my genuine advice is to focus on the entries instead. That is much more valuable. Just my 2 cents!
  • #114
  • May 13, 2018 8:25am May 13, 2018 8:25am
On a side note, I'm happy to help code proofs of concept for any idea that is worth the while. I have done that on some occasions for some members in the forum.
  • #115
  • May 13, 2018 12:19pm May 13, 2018 12:19pm
Can share the trading strategy? Is that manual or Auto (EA)?

Thank you.
  • #116
  • May 13, 2018 1:15pm May 13, 2018 1:15pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} What do you think based on what I wrote?
I don't think VEEFX while share anything.
It's looks like he found his holy grail and obviously cannot be disclosed to the public otherwise market will not exist anymore and brokers could get bankrupted.
Congratulations to him.

Let's return to our discussion between us.
  • #117
  • May 13, 2018 1:36pm May 13, 2018 1:36pm
Quoting Merka
{quote} I don't think VEEFX while share anything. It's looks like he found his holy grail and obviously cannot be disclosed to the public otherwise market will not exist anymore and brokers could get bankrupted. Congratulations to him. Let's return to our discussion between us.
Yes I agree.

Either he found his holy grail or he is drunk
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  • #118
  • May 13, 2018 2:02pm May 13, 2018 2:02pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} You just proved there are no shortage of idiots on this world The trading industry needs guys like you to exist so good job. You just proved my theory. Return to what? This thread is already dead you idiot. I am trying to revive it. Here's my simple challenge to the trading community. Pick any strategy for entries I don't care what type of entries. For exists, exit only when you profit is (order profit()+(order commission()+orderswap)*tradingcostmultiple) Run your "strategy" with tradingcostmultiple of 2+. If your strategy is consistantly...



Please speak simple trade language which will help idiots like us otherwise just leave us alone please for God sake
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  • #119
  • May 13, 2018 2:16pm May 13, 2018 2:16pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} You just proved there are no shortage of idiots on this world The trading industry needs guys like you to exist so good job. You just proved my theory. Return to what? This thread is already dead you idiot. I am trying to revive it. Here's my simple challenge to the trading community. Pick any strategy for entries I don't care what type of entries. For exists, exit only when you profit is (order profit()+(order commission()+orderswap)*tradingcostmultiple) Run your "strategy" with tradingcostmultiple of 2+. If your strategy is consistantly...
First of all you need to learn education.
Calling Idiot people that don't share your views is a bit of being arrogant.
So go back to your mom and dad and learn basic rules of educations.
After if you want you can back over here as nobody has been rude with you.
That's it
  • #120
  • May 13, 2018 3:53pm May 13, 2018 3:53pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Last post here until OP expresses his desire for me to contribute. For those who know the Millipede strategy by PipEasy who started his thread in 2011. He repeatedly used the phase "MARKETS ARE NEUTRAL AND UNIVERSAL". I don't think anyone bothered to truly understand the underlying depth of this sentence I know I did not for years and years until broke even from my losses 3 yrs and took a break from trading to assess what went wrong in my journey. None of what I was doing could be quantified by facts and data. None of the strategies I have...
Isn't this the point of this thread though? We can't predict which it will be. That's why there are mentions in this thread of how to take advantage of a system that works in each condition. Surly if you take two trading systems, one that works in ranging and one that works in trending then you have a strategy that works in any condition therefore conditions don't matter. The debate is how do we create a system like that because it's not as easy as just adding two systems together.
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