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  • #13,421
  • May 7, 2018 8:29am May 7, 2018 8:29am
[quote=jmn5611;11033362]
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Okay, let's be fair. Please have Verv repost this question I avoided and I will answer it bluntly and without any kind of philosophical undertones.

Go read your own posts man! He was responding to you! No need for me to do it for you!
  • #13,422
  • May 7, 2018 8:29am May 7, 2018 8:29am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} Jen: Wasn't meant to be an insult but I deleted it because I couldn't word it to not to sound as such. However your comments regarding US culture tend to have a not so thinly veiled holier than thou undertone. Anyway I wish you well.
Hey, I am a Yank and she is right about the ridiculous leeway the FDA gives Big Food. It's crazy. It is almost impossible for us to eat well here unless you grow your own stuff or have fairly deep pockets. You are an NP so you make six figures. Think about the guy who makes a median salary. They will not be shopping at whole foods. Why does our government not protect the little guy?

[quote=DrManhatten;11033378]
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Go read your own posts man! He was responding to you! No need for me to do it for you!
Way too far in the past. But apparently you seem stuck there, so I was giving you the option to reveal my evil nature!

The bottom line is that I am not ethnocentric, and you struggle with that.

Quoting jen101
{quote} God didn't work very well in Africa, did he? But in the UK, God is the government who pays for it all. Or rather redistributes it all.
Well, God kinda worked well. Africans are spread all over the globe these days. Some would say the diaspora is a good thing. In the UK, God is no different than any other gods anywhere else, they have always been the government.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,423
  • May 7, 2018 8:35am May 7, 2018 8:35am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Well in the present sense this certainly is being beaten to the punch, but Exodus raises a good point on the effects of both World Wars had the population of the UK that is being felt today. To answer your question, I am not sure how to compete with the premise you put forth, maybe stop importing people who will never assimilate as well cutting off social welfare benefits that provides no incentives for individuals to have self ambitions? I don't know just a thought.
When men are killed such as in the world wars, the population generally recovers in a generation. It would be different if great numbers of women were killed however.

As for the rest, perhaps the horse has already bolted? They're here and multiplying fast! I think France is making a master stroke, banning some verses of the Koran! As you know, the Koran cannot be changed, so it would be very interesting to see how that plays out.
  • #13,424
  • May 7, 2018 8:35am May 7, 2018 8:35am
Quoting jen101
{quote} If you read through this thread, you will see that I criticise everyone, most of all the UK, because I know it best. Of course I will criticise the US too but it appears that every time I do, you seem offended. I would therefore suggest it is your own sensitivities that is the issue.
There's a difference between criticism and arrogance.

As you know I enjoy a spirited back and forth about issues especially when it involves health, guns and politics but I try not to insult one's homeland. As I said before I deleted my comment to avoid sounding insulting. It's interesting you found it necessary to point out that I deleted the post. Your facts are also quite interesting. I like this one. One of my favorites: "Giving blood regularly reduces your risk of CV disease and stroke by something like 80%".

Anyway Jen you probably should just avoid the US since the mere act of finding something healthy to eat would be too stressful.
  • #13,425
  • May 7, 2018 8:35am May 7, 2018 8:35am
An interesting and excellent article that you chummies from across the pound can appreciate.


https://medium.com/s/story/the-surprisingly-solid-mathematical-case-of-the-tin-foil-hat-gun-prepper-15fce7d10437

Just food for thought.
  • #13,426
  • May 7, 2018 8:36am May 7, 2018 8:36am
Quoting DrManhatten
https://youtu.be/vNj_8Jf0lcU The cultural paradigm is shifting once again so it seems!
Kanye West is, let's just say, tone deaf. Slavery is a choice was a universally stupid thing to say. If he meant mental slavery, he should have said that.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,427
  • May 7, 2018 8:39am May 7, 2018 8:39am
Quoting jen101
{quote} When men are killed such as in the world wars, the population generally recovers in a generation. It would be different if great numbers of women were killed however. As for the rest, perhaps the horse has already bolted? They're here and multiplying fast! I think France is making a master stroke, banning some verses of the Koran! As you know, the Koran cannot be changed, so it would be very interesting to see how that plays out.

Well on your latter point on what France is doing is simply igniting the debate the Islam needs to be reformed. Like other religions within human history in order to modernized they were forced to experienced some type of reformation in their respective histories, not so much with Islam and the Koran. I think I would come to expect that the conversation will gain traction on this subject matter in the coming years as more conflicts continue to rise.
  • #13,428
  • May 7, 2018 8:39am May 7, 2018 8:39am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Kanye West is, let's just say, tone deaf. Slavery is a choice was a universally stupid thing to say. If he meant mental slavery, he should have said that.
I had no problem understanding what Kayne West meant.
  • #13,429
  • May 7, 2018 8:42am May 7, 2018 8:42am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Kanye West is, let's just say, tone deaf. Slavery is a choice was a universally stupid thing to say. If he meant mental slavery, he should have said that.

Anybody with half a brain knows what he mean't! Lets not conflate what is generally understood as slavery that was 400 years ago, as opposed to speaking in the present tense where African Americans have succumb to mental slavery within the construct of identity politics and victimhood that Democrats have been exploiting for the past 40+ years.
  • #13,430
  • May 7, 2018 8:42am May 7, 2018 8:42am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} There's a difference between criticism and arrogance. As you know I enjoy a spirited back and forth about issues especially when it involves health, guns and politics but I try not to insult one's homeland. As I said before I deleted my comment to avoid sounding insulting. It's interesting you found it necessary to point out that I deleted the post. Your facts are also quite interesting. I like this one. One of my favorites: "Giving blood regularly reduces your risk of CV disease and stroke by something like 80%". Anyway Jen you probably...
If I hated the US, it wouldn't bother me that your food is crap. Think about why it bothers me!

If you find facts insulting, then maybe you should go look for a safe space.
  • #13,431
  • May 7, 2018 8:44am May 7, 2018 8:44am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} I had no problem understanding what Kayne West meant.
You are a white guy, one who makes a lot of money to boot.

Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Anybody with half a brain knows what he mean't! Lets not conflate what is generally understood as slavery that was 400 years ago, as opposed to speaking in the present tense where African Americans have succumb to mental slavery within the construct of identity politics and victimhood that Democrats have been exploiting for the past 40+ years.
So, slavery ended. Then came reconstruction, then jim crow, then redlining, then gerrymandering, then gentlemen's agreements. Yep, the blacks here in this country are generally victims, and if they knew just how much so, they would be rioting every day.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,432
  • May 7, 2018 8:46am May 7, 2018 8:46am
[quote=jmn5611;11033381]{quote} {quote} Way too far in the past. But apparently you seem stuck there, so I was giving you the option to reveal my evil nature! The bottom line is that I am not ethnocentric, and you struggle with that. {quote}

Yeah Ok! Whatever you say! Sounds like a cop out and lame excuse!
  • #13,433
  • May 7, 2018 8:46am May 7, 2018 8:46am
Quoting jen101
{quote} If I hated the US, it wouldn't bother me that your food is crap. Think about why it bothers me! If you find facts insulting, then maybe you should go look for a safe space.
You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. I think your food is crap too but it doesn't bother me. The US is the safest place on this earth.
  • #13,434
  • May 7, 2018 8:49am May 7, 2018 8:49am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} You are a white guy, one who makes a lot of money to boot. {quote} So, slavery ended. Then came reconstruction, then jim crow, then redlining, then gerrymandering, then gentlemen's agreements. Yep, the blacks here in this country are generally victims, and if they knew just how much so, they would be rioting every day.

Blah, blah, blah, and more blah blah! What does this have to do with your original statement?

"Kanye West is, let's just say, tone deaf. Slavery is a choice was a universally stupid thing to say. If he meant mental slavery, he should have said that."

Yeah Verve is right, you do like to do mental gymnastics! Go figure!
  • #13,435
  • May 7, 2018 8:50am May 7, 2018 8:50am
Quoting jen101
{quote} When men are killed such as in the world wars, the population generally recovers in a generation. It would be different if great numbers of women were killed however. As for the rest, perhaps the horse has already bolted? They're here and multiplying fast! I think France is making a master stroke, banning some verses of the Koran! As you know, the Koran cannot be changed, so it would be very interesting to see how that plays out.
This is why women should not fight wars. One man and seven women can repopulate the planet. Seven men and one woman? They would kill each other until the alpha is left, and inbreeding would decimate the species.

Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Blah, blah, blah, and more blah blah! What does this have to do with your original statement? "Kanye West is, let's just say, tone deaf. Slavery is a choice was a universally stupid thing to say. If he meant mental slavery, he should have said that." Yeah Verve is right, you do like to do mental gymnastics! Go figure!
Blah, blah, and more blah? None of these things had an impact on American blacks? This is just denial. Again, your problem with me is that I am not ethnocentric, nor will I ever be. There is one race, the human race.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,436
  • May 7, 2018 8:53am May 7, 2018 8:53am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} You are a white guy, one who makes a lot of money to boot. {quote} So, slavery ended. Then came reconstruction, then jim crow, then redlining, then gerrymandering, then gentlemen's agreements. Yep, the blacks here in this country are generally victims, and if they knew just how much so, they would be rioting every day.
Class envy is one of the reasons victims remain victims. Pointing me out as White and "making a lot of money" is classic class envy. Victimhood is a choice.
  • #13,437
  • May 7, 2018 8:57am May 7, 2018 8:57am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} Class envy is one of the reasons victims remain victims. Pointing me out as White and "making a lot of money" is classic class envy. Victimhood is a choice.
Nah, you don't see it because you have no reason to look. It is very much like the regular people against Hitler, or Mussolini, or Pol Pot. It does not impact you directly so you cannot be bothered. Trump is our president because there were real victims of globalization in the rust belt that Hillary did not see. Their mistake was that they believed a snake oil salesman. I cannot wait for the EPA to deregulate coal in West Virginia again!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,438
  • May 7, 2018 8:58am May 7, 2018 8:58am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. I think your food is crap too but it doesn't bother me. The US is the safest place on this earth.
You're right, British food is crap too, but here I have a choice. I can cook my own. I have a house and a kitchen. Generally eating out does not make me ill, unless I eat Chinese with all the MSG. Another thing, i will not eat any desserts here because they are far too sweet. I don't understand why they have to use so much sugar. I only eat desserts in France. There's a lot I can say about British food, it's generally bland and unimaginative. People go for quantity rather than quality, much like in the US. Should I go on?
  • #13,439
  • May 7, 2018 9:00am May 7, 2018 9:00am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} Class envy is one of the reasons victims remain victims. Pointing me out as White and "making a lot of money" is classic class envy. Victimhood is a choice.
By the way Winston, don't get hurt feelings here in the RH. Things get said. Think like a debater.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,440
  • May 7, 2018 9:51am May 7, 2018 9:51am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Well, God kinda worked well. Africans are spread all over the globe these days. Some would say the diaspora is a good thing. In the UK, God is no different than any other gods anywhere else, they have always been the government.
They have a different approach to breeding, more like fish spawning hundreds of eggs and hoping a few survive. We have few children and expect them all to survive. In the modern day, we see it as our duty to not let children die and rightly so I believe, but that does warp things somewhat.
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