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  • #13,401
  • May 6, 2018 3:41am May 6, 2018 3:41am
Quoting jmn5611
You are a prolific poster Dr. M. I actually like your fight. But some of you keep saying, "we know who you really are". Just who am I really? If you are even close, I will admit it.

"You are a prolific poster Dr. M. I actually like your fight."

I seriously doubt that! I am not here to fight, but to have intelligent honest conversations.

"But some of you keep saying, "we know who you really are". Just who am I really? If you are even close, I will admit it"

You need to ask Verve that question, they were his words not mine, but you slinked away without ever responding to him. On who you are? Have you looked into the mirror and asked yourself that question? A Character is judged by their actions and their words, not by who they want to be! Well, you just demonstrated by your words to prove my point, that people who can't learn from their flaws, errors, or mistakes are most certain to be condemned to repeat them again!
  • #13,402
  • May 6, 2018 3:42am May 6, 2018 3:42am
https://youtu.be/vNj_8Jf0lcU

The cultural paradigm is shifting once again so it seems!
  • #13,403
  • May 6, 2018 3:43am May 6, 2018 3:43am
https://youtu.be/-Hsmm1PKqGo

Foolish Liberals equate total spending as state consumption. The trouble for Liberals is the GAO tracks entitlement spending.
http://www.youargue.com/55pm13... (http://www.youargue.com/55pm13dc11-the-results-are-in-the-biggest-moochers-are.html)

Thirteen of the top 15 leech states are blue states with California being number one. In fact California consumes 34.02% of all entitlement spending
while being just over one tenth of the population. They consume almost three times as much as they pay in.

Texas on the other hand consumes just 2.54% while being over 8% of the population.
  • #13,404
  • May 6, 2018 3:47am May 6, 2018 3:47am
https://youtu.be/9QmgcQik3eU

This is pretty profound when looking at this subject in the aggregate of current trends. How to stem the tide of it's eventual demise? Or will the ebbs and flows of modern day society in the UK settle into being one homogenous Utopian dream where diversity is it's strength? Hmm I wonder! First thought is to start humping away and start having babies! OK, the last one is one where I am being cynical, but you have to admit this is pretty compelling to contemplate what the future will look like in 2060. Uggh!
  • #13,405
  • May 6, 2018 4:15am May 6, 2018 4:15am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} You are right about the food stuff in the US, but I always argue it's comes down to individual choices when it comes to what we decide to put into our bodies, so while yes diabetes is among the number one killers in the US, we still can make healthier choices.
Ha ha, not interested in a fight on a Sunday morning Maybe I can start laying into Trump, that may trigger something I have to learn how to be able to eat well in America, when all I have on offer is restaurant food. Tell me how can I avoid all the chemicals, palm oil, salt and sugar in everything? What happens is I don't eat. That's not good. So you would beat me in a ski race. I would be jet lagged and weak from starvation.
  • #13,406
  • May 6, 2018 4:21am May 6, 2018 4:21am
Quoting DrManhatten
https://youtu.be/9QmgcQik3eU This is pretty profound when looking at this subject in the aggregate of current trends. How to stem the tide of it's eventual demise? Or will the ebbs and flows of modern day society in the UK settle into being one homogenous Utopian dream where diversity is it's strength? Hmm I wonder! First thought is to start humping away and start having babies! OK, the last one is one where I am being cynical, but you have to admit this is pretty compelling to contemplate what the future will look like in 2060. Uggh!...
A man can have several wives. Each wife will have about 6 kids. You often see each woman with about 4 kids under the age of 5. It is their mission. All those kids will be voting in less than 20 years. How the hell can we compete with that?
  • #13,407
  • May 6, 2018 6:44am May 6, 2018 6:44am
Quoting DrManhatten
https://youtu.be/9QmgcQik3eU This is pretty profound when looking at this subject in the aggregate of current trends. How to stem the tide of it's eventual demise? Or will the ebbs and flows of modern day society in the UK settle into being one homogenous Utopian dream where diversity is it's strength? Hmm I wonder! First thought is to start humping away and start having babies! OK, the last one is one where I am being cynical, but you have to admit this is pretty compelling to contemplate what the future will look like in 2060. Uggh!...
The demise started in or prior to the 15th Century with the abolition of the Catholic Religion in the UK. This put the dampers population growth. I also wonder about the true effects of World War. Two effects in the UK have been the wipe-out of male citizens which were replaced by imported representatives, and the loss of male role-models for the surviving youth which led to a loss of self-control and self-discipline. Another effect of WW2 was to enlist a huge number of civilians into the audience, an experience which to some taught insensitivity to one's fellow man. We endured active attempts at destroying the family unit in the 80s, a process which has done untold damage as well as that which has been 'told'. The has been supplanted by SJWs with all the associated benefits. .....uggh!
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #13,408
  • Edited 9:00am May 6, 2018 8:49am | Edited 9:00am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} "You are a prolific poster Dr. M. I actually like your fight." I seriously doubt that! I am not here to fight, but to have intelligent honest conversations. "But some of you keep saying, "we know who you really are". Just who am I really? If you are even close, I will admit it" You need to ask Verve that question, they were his words not mine, but you slinked away without ever responding to him. On who you are? Have you looked into the mirror and asked yourself that question? A Character is judged by their actions and their words, not by...
An excellent sidestep Doc. Many words, little concrete meaning outside of your own mental construct.

Quoting jen101
{quote} A man can have several wives. Each wife will have about 6 kids. You often see each woman with about 4 kids under the age of 5. It is their mission. All those kids will be voting in less than 20 years. How the hell can we compete with that?
That's the point, jen. We can't. We were introduced to materialism here in the West, this will naturally curb childrearing as that is a major drain on resources. Joe sixpack cannot have six kids and his F150. The engineers of this project understand all subjects in the experiment. Japan, who is better at modeling cultures than anyone else on earth in my view, has shown us the future. Demographics is destiny. That is why Italy is paying people to have children.

Quoting Exodus
{quote} The demise started in or prior to the 15th Century with the abolition of the Catholic Religion in the UK. This put the dampers population growth. I also wonder about the true effects of World War. Two effects in the UK have been the wipe-out of male citizens which were replaced by imported representatives, and the loss of male role-models for the surviving youth which led to a loss of self-control and self-discipline. Another effect of WW2 was to enlist a huge number of civilians into the audience, an experience which to some taught insensitivity...
On the other hand, one Catholic country has many more people than it can care for. The purpose of many women in this nation is to breed. The women will openly say so, and it is a deal breaker if you do not want kids. Children equals wealth, God will figure out how they will be cared for. Is there a middle ground?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,409
  • May 6, 2018 9:50am May 6, 2018 9:50am
Quoting jmn5611
Children equals wealth, God will figure out how they will be cared for. Is there a middle ground?
God didn't work very well in Africa, did he?

But in the UK, God is the government who pays for it all. Or rather redistributes it all.
  • #13,410
  • May 6, 2018 12:13pm May 6, 2018 12:13pm
https://youtu.be/DSOkNqEbTl0
https://youtu.be/f5eq-4xEAKk
  • #13,411
  • May 6, 2018 2:43pm May 6, 2018 2:43pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Ha ha, not interested in a fight on a Sunday morning Maybe I can start laying into Trump, that may trigger something I have to learn how to be able to eat well in America, when all I have on offer is restaurant food. Tell me how can I avoid all the chemicals, palm oil, salt and sugar in everything? What happens is I don't eat. That's not good. So you would beat me in a ski race. I would be jet lagged and weak from starvation.
It's not any more difficult to eat healthy in the US than in the UK or any other industrialized country. The not-so-subtle notion that the US poisons it's citizens is bunk. It really does come down to educating oneself and being aware of what you are eating. No one forces anyone to choke down unhealthy food. Choices are made by individuals and if they choose to be ignorant of what they are putting in their bodies then they will eventually suffer the consequences.
  • #13,412
  • May 6, 2018 4:21pm May 6, 2018 4:21pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} It's not any more difficult to eat healthy in the US than in the UK or any other industrialized country. The not-so-subtle notion that the US poisons it's citizens is bunk. It really does come down to educating oneself and being aware of what you are eating. No one forces anyone to choke down unhealthy food. Choices are made by individuals and if they choose to be ignorant of what they are putting in their bodies then they will eventually suffer the consequences.
Do restaurants list every ingredient and additive in their meals? No. So how can I make an informed choice? The US permits a number of additives banned in the EU and elsewhere. That is what makes me feel sick, together with the vast quantities of salt and sugar I am just not used to. I stay in a hotel eating restaurant food, not like I have a kitchen to use and be able to prepare my own.
  • #13,413
  • May 7, 2018 3:20am May 7, 2018 3:20am
Winston: I see you have deleted the post you made where you called me ignorant. I am glad you have realised that this is a place where we use facts to support our arguments rather than insults.

Anyhow, further to my previous post, here are some facts.

Additives allowed in the US but banned elsewhere:

1: Milk and Dairy Products Laced with rBGH
Where it’s banned: Australia, New Zealand, Israel, EU and Canada
2: Genetically Engineered Papaya
Where it’s banned: The European Union
3: Ractopamine-Tainted Meat
Where it’s banned: 160 countries across Europe, Russia, mainland China and Republic of China (Taiwan)
4: Flame Retardant Drinks
Where it’s banned: Europe and Japan
5: Processed Foods Containing Artificial Food Colors and Dyes (more than 3000 additives)
Where it’s banned: Norway and Austria. In 2009, the British government advised companies to stop using food dyes by the end of that year. The European Union also requires a warning notice on most foods containing dyes.
6: Arsenic-Laced Chicken
Where it’s banned: The European Union
7: Bread with Potassium Bromate
Where it’s banned: Canada, China and the EU
8: Olestra/Olean
Where it’s banned: The UK and Canada
9: Preservatives BHA and BHT
Where it’s banned: The UK doesn’t allow BHA in infant foods. BHA and BHT are also banned in parts of the European Union and Japan.
10: Farm-Raised Salmon
Where it’s banned: Australia and New Zealand

Full article: http://eatlocalgrown.com/article/11944-banned-foods.html
  • #13,414
  • May 7, 2018 6:12am May 7, 2018 6:12am
Quoting jmn5611
.... On the other hand, one Catholic country has many more people than it can care for. The purpose of many women in this nation is to breed. The women will openly say so, and it is a deal breaker if you do not want kids. Children equals wealth, God will figure out how they will be cared for. Is there a middle ground?
Which country is that?

Christians still outnumber any other religion at the moment, afaik. There is still time.....
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #13,415
  • May 7, 2018 8:02am May 7, 2018 8:02am
Quoting jen101
Winston: I see you have deleted the post you made where you called me ignorant. I am glad you have realised that this is a place where we use facts to support our arguments rather than insults. Anyhow, further to my previous post, here are some facts. Additives allowed in the US but banned elsewhere: 1: Milk and Dairy Products Laced with rBGH Where it’s banned: Australia, New Zealand, Israel, EU and Canada 2: Genetically Engineered Papaya Where it’s banned: The European Union 3: Ractopamine-Tainted Meat Where it’s banned: 160 countries across Europe,...
Jen: Wasn't meant to be an insult but I deleted it because I couldn't word it to not to sound as such. However your comments regarding US culture tend to have a not so thinly veiled holier than thou undertone. Anyway I wish you well.
  • #13,416
  • May 7, 2018 8:16am May 7, 2018 8:16am
[quote=jmn5611;11030879]{quote} An excellent sidestep Doc. Many words, little concrete meaning outside of your own mental construct. {quote}

Right! Like the side step you took in your failed response to Verve? Typical response from you Jimbo! No meaning to you, because you simply don't get it and probably never will!
  • #13,417
  • May 7, 2018 8:20am May 7, 2018 8:20am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} The demise started in or prior to the 15th Century with the abolition of the Catholic Religion in the UK. This put the dampers population growth. I also wonder about the true effects of World War. Two effects in the UK have been the wipe-out of male citizens which were replaced by imported representatives, and the loss of male role-models for the surviving youth which led to a loss of self-control and self-discipline. Another effect of WW2 was to enlist a huge number of civilians into the audience, an experience which to some taught insensitivity...
Yes the effects of both World Wars definitely has a lot to do with the stunted population growth that would have prevented the need for outside representatives. Though I wonder how that same premise affects other countries who were involved as well. I wonder what the total tally is as a result of loss of life claimed by both world wars is. Not sure, but certainly I will try to look into that. When looking at this on a deeper level it certainly is profound and tragic that 70 years later the effects is still being felt.
  • #13,418
  • May 7, 2018 8:25am May 7, 2018 8:25am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} Jen: Wasn't meant to be an insult but I deleted it because I couldn't word it to not to sound as such. However your comments regarding US culture tend to have a not so thinly veiled holier than thou undertone. Anyway I wish you well.
If you read through this thread, you will see that I criticise everyone, most of all the UK, because I know it best. Of course I will criticise the US too but it appears that every time I do, you seem offended. I would therefore suggest it is your own sensitivities that is the issue.
  • #13,419
  • May 7, 2018 8:25am May 7, 2018 8:25am
[quote=DrManhatten;11033317]
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} An excellent sidestep Doc. Many words, little concrete meaning outside of your own mental construct. {quote} Right! Like the side step you took in your failed response to Verve? Typical response from you Jimbo! No meaning to you, because you simply don't get it and probably never will!
Okay, let's be fair. Please have Verv repost this question I avoided and I will answer it bluntly and without any kind of philosophical undertones.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,420
  • May 7, 2018 8:26am May 7, 2018 8:26am
Quoting jen101
{quote} A man can have several wives. Each wife will have about 6 kids. You often see each woman with about 4 kids under the age of 5. It is their mission. All those kids will be voting in less than 20 years. How the hell can we compete with that?

Well in the present sense this certainly is being beaten to the punch, but Exodus raises a good point on the effects of both World Wars had on the population of the UK that is being felt today. To answer your question, I am not sure how to compete with the premise you put forth, maybe stop importing people who will never assimilate as well as cutting off social welfare benefits that provides no incentives for individuals to have self ambitions? I don't know just a thought. At this point, I understand that hard decisions have to be made, but not before some blood will spill.

Just today watching the news and the nonsense that Boris Johnson is trying to convince Trump of not abandoning the Iran nuclear deal is complete hogwash! I totally lost respect for that guy, as he is just another mouthing muppet in order to keep the status quo. The Iran and US Nuclear deal was a bad deal from the start and needs to be abolished. We will see what happens on the 12th as that is the deadline when Trump has to decide to keep or scrap it altogether.
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