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so did a test run live with small account, most important notes i noticed

mtf ma is awesome indie, i quickly noticed that the settings provided were not suited to scalping but with a few adjustments it comes out swinging for sure

the csm, is fast the perfect kind of fast to support scalp pull back entry it would seem, which is what iv so badly been looking for.

i ended up using the mtf ma as a one time frame multi ma meter and in that sense it did great, got the averages without a bunch of extra baggage on my bars


after adjustments i was able to make it out for the day or at least so far at break even, which for a blind run is awesome in my book.


the final note- that csm is a scalpers dream with some PA pull back action, i think it may be the last piece iv been needing for some time, kudos reyeswhite
Just my 2 cents

The MTF MA indicator is pretty good. In fact so good I would personally say you don't need the CSM because when all the MA's have lined up it's a given that on any pair one side is strong and one side is weak.

I don't trade 30min time frames. I only look at 4H and up and it looks really good on the higher time frames. I don't see any real advantage in using the CSM as all the info you need is in the chart.
Glad everyone is experimenting with the system, i think both the CSM and the MAs give us a different approach to the market. It's doubtful you'd be able to trade the MA's alone, mainly due to alot of false signals in areas of consolidation, but if that's something that will/does work for you then go for it. I tend to find the CSM helps split up the areas of range and consolidation, and even though i have had many losing trades with my system, the CSM helps to make sure you're trading in the strongest direction.

I'm glad everyones experimenting though because sometimes people find it easier to implement other peoples strategies into their own, and if something works for you then go for it. I managed to take an AUDUSD trade for 40 pips profit earlier, hoping to my NZDUSD one for profit soon too.
I think it needs to be watched in real time before deciding how good it is.

Being MTF it naturally repaints. Scanning back on a chart isn't an indication of how accurate it is.
Quoting billbss
I think it needs to be watched in real time before deciding how good it is. Being MTF it naturally repaints. Scanning back on a chart isn't an indication of how accurate it is.
I thought that maybe the case so I checked it with SimpleFX tester which allows you to forward test, just faster. It does repaint the current bar but once a bar is closed the indicator remains fixed. So it doesn't seem to repaint.

Going to forward test it for a week on demo and see what it's like on 4H.
Quoting billbss
I think it needs to be watched in real time before deciding how good it is. Being MTF it naturally repaints. Scanning back on a chart isn't an indication of how accurate it is.
150% right, sim test til your eyes bleed, still a great indie imo

i live test everything as i dont like demo mode, however to anyone going forwards id say you are well served to observe it on demo for a night or sim test the heck out of it
The indicator will repaint the current bar, whether it be the M30 bar or D1 bar. Once a bar is closed though it doesn't repaint. The same as Stochastic, RSI etc;
I don't know the Simple FX tester, but the simulators I have seen will not test MTF.

An MTF indicator has to repaint.

If you're sitting on the 30M timeframe watching the indicator, each of the bars are capable of repainting one bar. That means you will have entrance signals in real time that you cannot see scanning back on a chart.
Quoting billbss
I don't know the Simple FX tester, but the simulators I have seen will not test MTF. An MTF indicator has to repaint. If you're sitting on the 30M timeframe watching the indicator, each of the bars are capable of repainting one bar. That means you will have entrance signals in real time that you cannot see scanning back on a chart.
That's true, but think what that means.

If I'm set up on 30M, it will take 8 of the 30M bars to equal one 4H bar. If the 30M bars are all blue and the 4H bars are all blue, but the 4H slopes down 30M before it closes, it will repaint 8 bars. Looking back on a chart I won't see an entrance signal. Actually trading I will.
Quoting billbss
An MTF indicator has to repaint.
billbss, I don't want to argue, but it is just not true! Not all MTF indicators are created equal! I'm not talking about this particular MTF (although I believe that ReyesWhite knows what he's talking about).You can go to this thread and download shah indicator:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=338392

shah is MTF but it doesn't repaint! I work with it for almost a year - it doesn't repaint!
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Quoting billbss
That's true, but think what that means. If I'm set up on 30M, it will take 8 of the 30M bars to equal one 4H bar. If the 30M bars are all blue and the 4H bars are all blue, but the 4H slopes down 30M before it closes, it will repaint 8 bars. Looking back on a chart I won't see an entrance signal. Actually trading I will.
im so glad you could word that, i had a whole mtf ma's on the chart vs the meter idea but as long as its understood that a visual backtest doesnt work the universe wont explode, after that i still think its a good indie
If you look at an MTF indicator in a chart with a lower TF, this indicator will repaint, ALWAYS. But this fact only makes useless any visual backtest. Nothing else.

Cheers
Yep i tried to backtest this indicator when i first started using it, it's impossible to backtest on MT4 as far as i know.
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Quoting Caillou
If you look at an MTF indicator in a chart with a lower TF, this indicator will repaint, ALWAYS. But this fact only makes useless any visual backtest. Nothing else. Cheers
Sorry to disagree but as Favourite told,not every MTF indi works the same way. I have not backtested or done research on this indi, but IF it just paint a dot IF the first ma crosses the second (and viceversa with a different coloured dot, of course), it really makes sense that it does NOT repaint.

When you plot a ma on MT4 and then change timeframe, it does repaint? No. Same thing here,probably; at the bare maximum, it could be a light "lag" dued to the interpolation of the MA, but it should not really "repaint" the past, if built this way.
hi u can use this to check if it repaints
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The quickest way to see if it repaints is set the MAs on 1M and 5M.

Watch it from the 1M timeframe. I believe there will be times the 5M line repaints 5 dots.
Yep, it repaints. So that explains why it looks so good
Just set the MA shift to -10, allows you to peak into the future.
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Yes, it repaints.
I watched it doing it.

If it is set for 30M, 60M, 4H and 1D:

The 60M will repaint up to 2 dots.
4H will repaint up to 8 Dots.
1D will repaint up to 48 Dots.

The only testing that can be done is real time testing watching the screen.
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