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  • Feb 21, 2010 5:30am Feb 21, 2010 5:30am
  •  DanUK
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I am up on my simulation but I think it will take some time to complete. Slow streaming of prices to MT4 take over 10 mins just to display one bar. 6 bars in a day (4hr ) so I am moving a day in an hour. Looks like this will teach me some patience too.

I have thought to follow up my backtests with some forward testing /trading. So, here is a chart, please evaluate, Sensei....
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Hi,

One of the great things about forex trading is the fact that you can demo trade first - so it's a great idea to start demo trading as well as back-testing.

E/U is tricky as the week closed right under the 50% level... if the market was still open it would have showed us by now what it wanted to do!

When things aren't lining up perfectly I rely on price action to show the way! Of course, there is still no guarantee that it will do what we would like it to but it helps us to get the odds stacked in our favour. By price action, I mean either we get some kind of candlestick/reversal pattern or we simply see price bounce off of our area. If the week opens and price continues the move up through our 50% level then we look up to the next area of interest. If, however we get some bearish action, we can start thinking about shorting.

Something that concerns me slightly is that the last two moves down on E/U have been relatively small; we haven’t seen a larger retracement in some time and it feels we are due one. Having said that retail sentiment shows a bearish bias and COT data suggests the same… so again the “trade what you see” rule applies!

Just one more thing... if we shorted at 1.3600 and price went up to 1.3700 it would take out our stop (assuming we are using the 100 pip stop). In your example this could then turn around at the trendline, which you have shown at 1.3750 (mine looks a little different). According to the anti-hedge rules, once price is up at 1.3750 we would be putting in another short order at 1.3700 so in this case price would pick us back up on the way down and ideally recover our losses and turn a profit. Of course, in the real world this might not happen but those are the rules that we have laid out to follow!

I’ve attached my E/U chart just to share my trendlines. Remember I draw them slightly differently in that I use them as a guide. This is not to suggest your trendlines are drawn incorrectly – it’s a subjective art and many traders will them differently. As I mentioned earlier, I use them as a guide, which reflects how I draw them!

Regards,

Dan
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  • Feb 21, 2010 7:45am Feb 21, 2010 7:45am
  •  vicky_ag
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Hi,

One of the great things about forex trading is the fact that you can demo trade first - so it's a great idea to start demo trading as well as back-testing.

E/U is tricky as the week closed right under the 50% level... if the market was still open it would have showed us by now what it wanted to do!

[color=black][font=Verdana]When things aren't lining up perfectly I rely on price action to show the way! Of course,...
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My chart actually looks like this:

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02-21_1753.png

The two thicker lines from your chart. Thin one with 3 touches which I think is the strongest. The dotted ones are the connecting two extremes at minimum. So, if you look at the lines joining the demand/support it forms a channel. I chose the two lines in the previous charts based on the recent extremes which also seem to be forming a channel. Just IMO on the charts.

I think Jacko somewhere mentioned that if the retraces are getting smaller then a change with might be coming in soon. Or was it wins were getting smaller.

BTW, how do you go about analyzing COT reports ?

As for the anti-hedges, the outer most TL would put the price arnd 1.39 and if the price in the near term violates the inner TL's , should we start looking for longs only if till the price reaches 1.39?

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02-21_1808.png

Hope you get my question.
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2010 1:55pm Feb 21, 2010 1:55pm
  •  DanUK
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My chart actually looks like this:



The two thicker lines from your chart. Thin one with 3 touches which I think is the strongest. The dotted ones are the connecting two extremes at minimum. So, if you look at the lines joining the demand/support it forms a channel. I chose the two lines in the previous charts based on the recent extremes which also seem to be forming a channel. Just IMO on the charts.

I think Jacko somewhere mentioned that if the retraces are getting smaller then a change with might be coming in soon. Or was it wins were...
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Hi,

I personally wouldn't be looking for any longs without confirmation that the trend has changed. If price gets past the inner trendline I will be looking from the outer trendline to provide resistance and send price back down - if that doesn't happen and the outer trendline breaks, that is the time I will be looking for signs of a trend change.

With regards to COT data - it's a fairly simple process but I mainly use it as confirmation of what I see happening on the charts. If I see that the large traders (net positions) are increasing their positions in the direction of the trend it helps to confirm that the trend is still going strong. For instance, the last COT report showed large traders increased shorts by 2270 in respect of the Euro. The trend continued downwards.

I also use the extreme COT index reading (0 or 100) as a warning sign. At the moment large traders are showing an extreme reading of 0 for the Euro, if the next COT report shows that to go back up it's just a little heads up that large traders are closing their shorts (to what extent though remains to be seen on the charts).

I don't trade off of that, but I watch the technicals with that information in mind. It has proven to be quite useful in the past.

Regards,

Dan
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2010 2:35pm Feb 21, 2010 2:35pm
  •  vicky_ag
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Hi,

I personally wouldn't be looking for any longs without confirmation that the trend has changed. If price gets past the inner trendline I will be looking from the outer trendline to provide resistance and send price back down - if that doesn't happen and the outer trendline breaks, that is the time I will be looking for signs of a trend change.

With regards to COT data - it's a fairly simple process but I mainly use it as confirmation of what I see happening on the charts. If I see that the large traders (net positions) are increasing their...
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Ok, so always trade in the direction of trend of the bigger TF. Dailies for 4hr and weekly for dailies. Got it.

How many weeks measurement on the COT index? 26 or 13 ?
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2010 3:01pm Feb 21, 2010 3:01pm
  •  DanUK
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Ok, so always trade in the direction of trend of the bigger TF. Dailies for 4hr and weekly for dailies. Got it.

How many weeks measurement on the COT index? 26 or 13 ?
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I tend to use 13 weeks. It's just the figure that I was told to use from the start when I learned about using the COT index and it seems to work out!
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2010 8:55pm Feb 21, 2010 8:55pm
  •  castlerock
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Hi hope this help you a bit H4 GU i have been trading it down but have kept an eye on the daily which as you can see is nearing the 50% fib line i am now out and waiting to see what happens here [ATTACH]
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  • Feb 22, 2010 12:09pm Feb 22, 2010 12:09pm
  •  vicky_ag
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Hi hope this help you a bit H4 GU i have been trading it down but have kept an eye on the daily which as you can see is nearing the 50% fib line i am now out and waiting to see what happens here [ATTACH]Attachment 423956[/ATTACH]
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Castlerock, which 50% fib line was it?? I cant see the one you are referring to.
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2010 12:25pm Feb 22, 2010 12:25pm
  •  vicky_ag
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Dan
I entered a EU short on the break of a TL, a round number near the 50% of the last swing and lastly, a reversal pattern called the hanging man. (Well, the entry was supposed to be 1.36 but thanks to my ISP , I entered at 1.3589).

I am in the correct direction?

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  • Feb 22, 2010 1:23pm Feb 22, 2010 1:23pm
  •  pianosax12
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Hi Vicky, i think you're in the right direction.
Also if you look at the daily, it's shaping up as a bearish engulfing.

I'm not sure if i'm right, but i have the 80ish level as minor SR- see how your sell liine acted as support a few times recently.
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2010 4:01pm Feb 22, 2010 4:01pm
  •  DanUK
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I entered a EU short on the break of a TL, a round number near the 50% of the last swing and lastly, a reversal pattern called the hanging man. (Well, the entry was supposed to be 1.36 but thanks to my ISP , I entered at 1.3589).

I am in the correct direction?
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Hi Vicky_ag,

Yes this looks like a good entry to me. I am in an EU short from 1.3600, it is currently sitting just over breakeven and I am waiting for something to move... hopefully down! Lol!

I also have a long on A/U from 0.8900 which I'm not sure if I mentioned before or not.

Regards,


Dan
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2010 8:54pm Feb 22, 2010 8:54pm
  •  MitchOZ
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Hi Vicky_ag,

Yes this looks like a good entry to me. I am in an EU short from 1.3600, it is currently sitting just over breakeven and I am waiting for something to move... hopefully down! Lol!

I also have a long on A/U from 0.8900 which I'm not sure if I mentioned before or not.

Regards,


Dan
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Hi Dan. Are you still in the GU short from 1.58? AU in an interesting posi hovering around the 90 mark. If it breaks up, then a fair amount of blue sky ahead. If it retraces first, I am eyeing a couple of points of interest, one around the 89.50 mark and another at the 88.00 mark which is the 50% retrace of the recent move up (see below).
Any thoughts?
Cheers Mitch
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  • Feb 22, 2010 10:24pm Feb 22, 2010 10:24pm
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Hi Vicky_ag,

Yes this looks like a good entry to me. I am in an EU short from 1.3600, it is currently sitting just over breakeven and I am waiting for something to move... hopefully down! Lol!

I also have a long on A/U from 0.8900 which I'm not sure if I mentioned before or not.

Regards,


Dan
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Dan, you sure going long on AU is the best bet? The daily looks to be trending down and the fib drawn on the last swing down shows 0.8950 as the 50% fib line.

BTW, is there a way to get exact 300-400 bars to show on the MT4 window?
 
 
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  • Feb 23, 2010 1:44am Feb 23, 2010 1:44am
  •  coolshades
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AU is interestingly poised right now. the 9000 has been a strong resistance. however Dan would have already moved his trade to BE so for him its a free ride now.

i did take 100 pips off it yesterday, 89 entry 9000 exit.

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Dan, you sure going long on AU is the best bet? The daily looks to be trending down and the fib drawn on the last swing down shows 0.8950 as the 50% fib line.

BTW, is there a way to get exact 300-400 bars to show on the MT4 window?
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  • Feb 23, 2010 10:37pm Feb 23, 2010 10:37pm
  •  vicky_ag
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Dan,

One doubt I am having is this.:

We tend to buy/sell at round numbers. So, we took a short at 1.36 at 50% fib line yesterday.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02-24_0903.png
Now, another TL touch was around 1.37 where the price went and bounced off. So, do we directly place a trade at 1.37 cause it is near the TL or we wait and see the PA at the TL ?

Say, if we did wait, we the entry would anyway came at 1.36 cause the bounce off pushed the price down to 1.3636.
 
 
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  • Feb 25, 2010 12:11am Feb 25, 2010 12:11am
  •  fxpip8
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dan
would u pls post your trades with chars?
i think u have a good trading method to learn (i am a newbie, sorri)
 
 
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  • Feb 25, 2010 11:07am Feb 25, 2010 11:07am
  •  bun888
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Hi Dan,

Looking in my chart, I think that AUD/USD's trend has started to change.
What do you think?

I am thinking of shorting, however, do you think it is better to wait for a retrace to enter going short?
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  • Feb 26, 2010 2:00pm Feb 26, 2010 2:00pm
  •  vicky_ag
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Dan, Still awaiting your reply on my last chart.

Btw, checked the COT report for this week. Did it even come out ? The site still shows 16 Feb's report to me.

The COT index is still zero. So, we maintain our position of taking shorts.
 
 
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  • Feb 27, 2010 4:37am Feb 27, 2010 4:37am
  •  DanUK
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Hi Dan. Are you still in the GU short from 1.58? AU in an interesting posi hovering around the 90 mark. If it breaks up, then a fair amount of blue sky ahead. If it retraces first, I am eyeing a couple of points of interest, one around the 89.50 mark and another at the 88.00 mark which is the 50% retrace of the recent move up (see below).
Any thoughts?
Cheers Mitch
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Hi Mitch,

Sorry for the slow reply - I've had a very busy week and it looks like next week will be the same!!!

G/U has been kind to me this week! My short from 1.58 closed at 1.55 for +300 pips. I sold again at 1.55 after price bounced off previous support at 1.5550 (didn't quite reach the 50% at 1.5580, missed by about 5 pips, but was close enough to look for a position). That closed on a little spike up into 1.5300 for +200 pips.

I'm still an A/U bull and I was looking for the same entry as you at the 50% mark near 88.00. I took the bounce off it and went long at 0.8850. Stop is currently at breakeven so we'll see what happens with that one next week.

Again, my apologies to everyone for taking so long to reply this week! I normally try to respond quicker but I just haven't been able to!

Regards,

Dan
 
 
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  • Feb 27, 2010 4:39am Feb 27, 2010 4:39am
  •  DanUK
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AU is interestingly poised right now. the 9000 has been a strong resistance. however Dan would have already moved his trade to BE so for him its a free ride now.

i did take 100 pips off it yesterday, 89 entry 9000 exit.
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Good work! Perhaps I should have taken some profit... but I didn't! As it happened by A/U came back to BE. Happy enough though as it wasn't a loss!!

I am in again on A/U long... lol

Regards,

Dan
 
 
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  • Feb 27, 2010 4:45am Feb 27, 2010 4:45am
  •  DanUK
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Dan,

One doubt I am having is this.:

We tend to buy/sell at round numbers. So, we took a short at 1.36 at 50% fib line yesterday.


Now, another TL touch was around 1.37 where the price went and bounced off. So, do we directly place a trade at 1.37 cause it is near the TL or we wait and see the PA at the TL ?

Say, if we did wait, we the entry would anyway came at 1.36 cause the bounce off pushed the price down to 1.3636.
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Hi vicky_ag,

I must admit the reason I don't draw too many trendlines is to prevent me from getting analysis paralysis! I try to keep to two trendlines maximum - an outer trendline (tends to be for direction more than entries) and an inner trendline for entries.

How you enter your trades comes down to your experience I think. I always used to wait for PA - not necessarily a particular setup (i.e. pin bar) but I would always wait for price to move in my direction by about 50 pips. I still do this today but not on all trades.

If I have a confluence of factors, say a trendline, 50% retracement, big round number all hitting at the same place I might place a stop order instead of waiting. However, if there are any major news announcements taking place I would be more cautious.

In your example, if I was to wait for 1.37 and it did get hit and price started moving back down, I would place a sell at 1.3650.

Hope that helps!

Regards,

Dan
 
 
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