The Rabbit Hole | Page 264 | Forex Factory

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

Peering down the algorithmic trading rabbit hole 11 replies

Badgers Bolt hole 39 replies

Different Charting software: Hole in charts? 0 replies

Pipbuilder's hole 2 replies

Black Hole Trading 0 replies

Attachments: The Rabbit Hole
Exit Attachments

The Rabbit Hole

  • #5,261
  • Edited 6:50am Jun 20, 2017 6:26am | Edited 6:50am
Quoting Pat494
Crapitalism doesn't address the over population issues. It will no longer be millions of extra people being dumped on Europe to look after but billions. Have India, Africa and elsewhere heard of abstinence or contraception ? Oh yes But do they respond = 'fraid not. The political will in most places isn't strong enough to limit families to 2 children each so they suffer terribly instead. Crapitalists just want to make money out of them too. As for care - not if it costs them a penny more.
I have no frigging clue what you are talking about.

Capitalism is unrelated to many of the things you are bringing up, capitalism is a economic system of voluntary exchange between individuals. That's all it is.

Capitalism is not in and off itself greedy or immoral. How can an economic system be moral or immoral?

People are greedy and immoral. People are greedy and immoral IRRESPECTIVE of whether or not the economic system is capitalist or socialist.
  • #5,262
  • Jun 20, 2017 7:05am Jun 20, 2017 7:05am
In simple terms Capitalism is even at fault for high birth rates it seems ,thats not a culture thing ?
Yet in the UK native families are actually small we don't need limiting and have a high capitalism outlook

Quoting verv
{quote} I have no frigging clue what you are talking about. Capitalism is unrelated to many of the things you are bringing up, capitalism is a economic system of voluntary exchange between individuals. That's all it is. Capitalism is not in and off itself greedy or immoral. How can an economic system be moral or immoral? People are greedy and immoral. People are greedy and immoral IRRESPECTIVE of whether or not the economic system is capitalist or socialist.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Screenshot 2017-06-20_13-04-09.png Size: 287 KB
On-site guru & also FF member's' psychiatrist, when not drinking tea
  • #5,263
  • Edited 8:48am Jun 20, 2017 7:31am | Edited 8:48am
Quoting Bones
In simple terms Capitalism is even at fault for high birth rates it seems ,thats not a culture thing ? Yet in the UK native families are actually small we don't need limiting and have a high capitalism outlook {quote} {image}
The low birth rates in Western countries is a result of individual choice to go out and procure contraceptives. The only exception of a state controlling the birth rate that I'm aware of is China and their one child policy.

Capitalism permitted the incentive to create and manufacture contraceptives on a large scale, and people use those contraceptives because it benefits them to do so.

Capitalism has therefore facilitated lower birth rates in the West through voluntary exchange, it's not been an order from government. It has been individuals separately and freely deciding when or if they have children.
  • #5,264
  • Jun 20, 2017 7:36am Jun 20, 2017 7:36am
Quoting verv
{quote} I have no frigging clue what you are talking about. Capitalism is unrelated to many of the things you are bringing up, capitalism is a economic system of voluntary exchange between individuals. That's all it is. Capitalism is not in and off itself greedy or immoral. How can an economic system be moral or immoral? People are greedy and immoral. People are greedy and immoral IRRESPECTIVE of whether or not the economic system is capitalist or socialist.
I suspect you are conversing with a CoC hunter
  • #5,265
  • Jun 20, 2017 7:42am Jun 20, 2017 7:42am
Quoting Pat494
Crapitalism doesn't address the over population issues. It will no longer be millions of extra people being dumped on Europe to look after but billions. Have India, Africa and elsewhere heard of abstinence or contraception ? Oh yes But do they respond = 'fraid not. The political will in most places isn't strong enough to limit families to 2 children each so they suffer terribly instead. Crapitalists just want to make money out of them too. As for care - not if it costs them a penny more.
China had a two child policy, do you advocate any form of their government? This is not a trick question, remember we are here for the debate. I notice that you have a bias against capitalism, and not withstanding some of it's more obvious flaws, I would like to know what your version of government would be?

Quoting Devauxt
{quote} I suspect you are conversing with a CoC hunter
This is paranoia Dev. One of you thought that about me when I first came here. Why do you guys think that about the opposition? Too much Alex Jones?

Quoting verv
{quote} I have no frigging clue what you are talking about. Capitalism is unrelated to many of the things you are bringing up, capitalism is a economic system of voluntary exchange between individuals. That's all it is. Capitalism is not in and off itself greedy or immoral. How can an economic system be moral or immoral? People are greedy and immoral. People are greedy and immoral IRRESPECTIVE of whether or not the economic system is capitalist or socialist.
True capitalism would be ideal, but most capitalists hate competition so they will use government or thugs to eliminate it rather than innovate.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #5,266
  • Jun 20, 2017 8:01am Jun 20, 2017 8:01am
Quoting jmn5611
This is paranoia Dev. One of you thought that about me when I first came here. Why do you guys think that about the opposition? Too much Alex Jones?.
Happy to be proved wrong and happy to admit it, should the need arise. But it does concern me when someone is full of opinion and no facts or research to back them up
  • #5,267
  • Jun 20, 2017 8:06am Jun 20, 2017 8:06am
Remember Pizzagate or Pedogate - is that why Scalise was shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiaLFhe1OYg
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,268
  • Jun 20, 2017 8:53am Jun 20, 2017 8:53am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Or is the military backed by the full faith of the dollar - if the dollar collapsed the military would quickly follow. Britain lost the empire bc the pound collapsed not bc we lost on the battlefield.
No, government know that the dollar is worth nothing since Nixon pulled us off the gold standard

Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Happy to be proved wrong and happy to admit it, should the need arise. But it does concern me when someone is full of opinion and no facts or research to back them up
He is probably a younger man and need to Google up a bit. Have you noticed that all neoliberals become conservatives as they get older?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #5,269
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:02am Jun 20, 2017 9:02am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Teamwork eh? We have the brains and you have the brawn.
I see what you did there!
  • #5,270
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:04am Jun 20, 2017 9:04am
Quoting Magog
{quote} There is some truth in that but the problem is not catitalism but governance as I mentioned yesterday. Proper governance would restrain corporations from doing things against the public interest. And the worst culprits in that area are always socialist

Actually you are partially right. The main culprit is the Central Banks! They created almost every war since the Rothchild's inception. Create a crisis in which you can profit from, and Valla! ECB, is the main culprit in creating the immigration mess. They needed an out in order for their cooked books to not be exposed, so they needed to create more debt. What perfect opportunity then to create a crisis in which a flood of low skilled people would overwhelm more EU' nations and would be dependent on Government services, thus nations would have to borrow money to cover their short falls to pay back with interest? Follow the money and this thread would reveal that would be a plausibility! Poland caught on to this very fast which is why they refuse to acquiesce to the EU's demands of accepting their quota for mass immigration.
  • #5,271
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:09am Jun 20, 2017 9:09am
Quoting Pat494
Crapitalism doesn't address the over population issues. It will no longer be millions of extra people being dumped on Europe to look after but billions. Have India, Africa and elsewhere heard of abstinence or contraception ? Oh yes But do they respond = 'fraid not. The political will in most places isn't strong enough to limit families to 2 children each so they suffer terribly instead. Crapitalists just want to make money out of them too. As for care - not if it costs them a penny more.
Why on earth do you think we voted Brexit then?

Look I make no bones about being a capitalist. I benefit from the cheap labour. I get my houses done up much more cost effectively, efficiently and professionally from employing eastern Europeans. They will do whatever you want, as quickly as you want and are very flexible on their pricing. Unlike British workers who are lazy, expensive and have a can't do attitude. There is no hunger for the work.

However, I voted Brexit. I voted Tory in the election this month. Why do you think that is?
  • #5,272
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:11am Jun 20, 2017 9:11am
Don't you think Piers Morgan has a very punch-able face?
https://youtu.be/TAgwabbdQ0A
  • #5,273
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:13am Jun 20, 2017 9:13am
Quoting Magog
Remember Pizzagate or Pedogate - is that why Scalise was shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiaLFhe1OYg
Someone is getting close! It is just a matter of time when the leak in the dam breaks into a full rupture spilling out the hard shocking truth!
  • #5,274
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:16am Jun 20, 2017 9:16am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} China had a two child policy, do you advocate any form of their government? This is not a trick question, remember we are here for the debate. I notice that you have a bias against capitalism, and not withstanding some of it's more obvious flaws, I would like to know what your version of government would be? {quote} This is paranoia Dev. One of you thought that about me when I first came here. Why do you guys think that about the opposition? Too much Alex Jones? {quote} True capitalism would be ideal, but most capitalists hate competition...

In other words people who argue as such would rather go back to the hunter gathering ways as an alternative. Not realistic is it? Unless of course we end up annihilating each other to oblivion then maybe that is a possibility.
  • #5,275
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:22am Jun 20, 2017 9:22am
Quoting Bones
In simple terms Capitalism is even at fault for high birth rates it seems ,thats not a culture thing ? Yet in the UK native families are actually small we don't need limiting and have a high capitalism outlook {quote} {image}
Don't you see an inverse correlation with IQ? Look up IQ by country.

If you don't have the means to feed your kids then don't have them! I guess it takes some intelligence to figure that out.
  • #5,276
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:26am Jun 20, 2017 9:26am
Quoting jen101
Don't you think Piers Morgan has a very punch-able face? https://youtu.be/TAgwabbdQ0A
Pretty cowardly interviewing from Piers
  • #5,277
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:36am Jun 20, 2017 9:36am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Don't you see an inverse correlation with IQ? Look up IQ by country. If you don't have the means to feed your kids then don't have them! I guess it takes some intelligence to figure that out.
Pretty hard to have a high IQ score when you haven't been taught to read properly.

The IQ map correlates very strongly with education / literacy for obvious reasons.
  • #5,278
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:47am Jun 20, 2017 9:47am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Don't you see an inverse correlation with IQ? Look up IQ by country. If you don't have the means to feed your kids then don't have them! I guess it takes some intelligence to figure that out.
If you can't feed them then don't breed them!
  • #5,279
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:49am Jun 20, 2017 9:49am
Jen ill go along with that since UK looks good lol
It is a serious point which leaves me scratching my head ,only I'm not a lover of measuring someones IQ
as clever people often make me annoyed with no practical traits


Quoting jen101
{quote} Don't you see an inverse correlation with IQ? Look up IQ by country. If you don't have the means to feed your kids then don't have them! I guess it takes some intelligence to figure that out.
On-site guru & also FF member's' psychiatrist, when not drinking tea
  • #5,280
  • Jun 20, 2017 9:49am Jun 20, 2017 9:49am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Don't you see an inverse correlation with IQ? Look up IQ by country. If you don't have the means to feed your kids then don't have them! I guess it takes some intelligence to figure that out.
I have always thought you should need a licence to have kids.
No licence - no kids.
IQ less than 90 - no licence.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
1 trader viewing now