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  • #4,661
  • Jun 9, 2017 5:52am Jun 9, 2017 5:52am
https://youtu.be/1LU12W1yeBI
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #4,662
  • Jun 9, 2017 5:54am Jun 9, 2017 5:54am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I think he would be a great leader. I don't think he would cave to pressure. I think there is a lot more to him that just being a one trick pony and above all I think he has integrity.
Thought for a minute you meant Gove LOL.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,663
  • Jun 9, 2017 5:58am Jun 9, 2017 5:58am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Thought for a minute you meant Gove LOL.
Have edited to be clear.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #4,664
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:21am Jun 9, 2017 6:21am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} i am not a conspiracy theory type of guy but their has to be some kind of conspiracy going on May can not be this stupid dementia tax killing foxes and talking about scrapping certain human rights not showing up to debates this is not a winning formula Corbyn was completely unchallenged all she really had to do was highlight he's weak points like the fact his manifesto didn't add up financially or the piss weak Brexit he would gave us or the fact he would make Diane Abbott home secretary or the fact he would have a self admitted communist...
Your observation reminds me that she ended-up as PM by default after everybody withdrew. Maybe she has discovered that PM is a shit job.

The manifesto fuck-up was a disaster that was not of her doing. I believe the Conservative Party Executive dream it up, maybe they shot her in the back.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #4,665
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:23am Jun 9, 2017 6:23am
Quoting Stu Effex
I reckon we might see Rees-Mog take a step to being tory leader
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #4,666
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:28am Jun 9, 2017 6:28am
Theresa May reaches deal with DUP to form government after shock election result

A DUP source said: “We want there to be a government. We have worked well with May. The alternative is intolerable. For as long as Corbyn leads Labour, we will ensure there’s a Tory PM.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2017-40171454
  • #4,667
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:35am Jun 9, 2017 6:35am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I think he (NIGE) would be a great leader. I don't think he would cave to pressure. I think there is a lot more to him than just being a one trick pony and above all I think he has integrity.
I believe you are correct with everything you wrote.

IMHO we have not had a decent leader since Margaret Thatcher, although I think Tony Blair was quite a good leader even though I hated the sound of his voice.

However, of all those who stepped up to the plate none of them has been as down-right in-your-face rude to opponents as our Nige, and that is why I think he is not a leader.

I'm happy to be proved wrong, it is clear that he believes in what he is doing and that is unfortunately rare amongst politicians.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #4,668
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:37am Jun 9, 2017 6:37am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} i am not a conspiracy theory type of guy but their has to be some kind of conspiracy going on May can not be this stupid dementia tax killing foxes and talking about scrapping certain human rights not showing up to debates this is not a winning formula Corbyn was completely unchallenged all she really had to do was highlight he's weak points like the fact his manifesto didn't add up financially or the piss weak Brexit he would gave us or the fact he would make Diane Abbott home secretary or the fact he would have a self admitted communist...
An alternative explanation is stupidity.
  • #4,669
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:38am Jun 9, 2017 6:38am
Quoting Devauxt
Theresa May reaches deal with DUP to form government after shock election result A DUP source said: We want there to be a government. We have worked well with May. The alternative is intolerable. For as long as Corbyn leads Labour, we will ensure theres a Tory PM. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2017-40171454

Already I see people claiming the DUP are 'terrorists'... and making comparisons between Corbyn and Sinn Fein / IRA

Looks like the Irish Unionists have saved May's bacon, and potentially rescued Brexit.

  • #4,670
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:39am Jun 9, 2017 6:39am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} If you trade only FX then I suppose long and short in the same pair could be thought of as hedging, and I have referred to it as such in the past. However a hedge is technically a position taken in a related but different market to reduce or defray risk, such as long EU when you are short EurAud. For instance if you bought half of an American Mall you would probably open a ( edit: ) long in Cable to hedge against currency movement. Oil companies have been taking protection in the derivative markets to sell oil for more...
Always thought of it as the perfect hedge - removes stress and only thing you need to decide is when to close the winning side.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,671
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:42am Jun 9, 2017 6:42am
Quoting Devauxt
Theresa May reaches deal with DUP to form government after shock election result A DUP source said: We want there to be a government. We have worked well with May. The alternative is intolerable. For as long as Corbyn leads Labour, we will ensure theres a Tory PM. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2017-40171454
The Tories only need 48 MPs to trigger a vote of no confidence and May will have to go. I think it will happen. Boris is bookies' favourite at 11/4 and Davis second at 6/1.

Quoting verv
{quote} An alternative explanation is stupidity.
I don't buy that.
  • #4,672
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:44am Jun 9, 2017 6:44am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} I believe you are correct with everything you wrote. IMHO we have not had a decent leader since Margaret Thatcher, although I think Tony Blair was quite a good leader even though I hated the sound of his voice. However, of all those who stepped up to the plate none of them has been as down-right in-your-face rude to opponents as our Nige, and that is why I think he is not a leader. I'm happy to be proved wrong, it is clear that he believes in what he is doing and that is unfortunately rare amongst politicians.
Thats exactly why I like him - EU hate him - so he must be doing something right.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,673
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:53am Jun 9, 2017 6:53am
Quoting Stu Effex
https://youtu.be/1LU12W1yeBI
Thank you Nigel for some clarity within the shit storm. It appears that everyone, including David Davis wants to water down Brexit, and perhaps the only way is UKIP with Nigel back, putting it through some major reforms. If that happened I would vote for Nigel.
  • #4,674
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:54am Jun 9, 2017 6:54am
UK renewable energy generation exceeds 50% of demand! ....just

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/renewable-energy-provides-more-than-half-the-uks-electricity-for-the-first-time_uk_5939592ce4b0b13f2c67d80c
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #4,675
  • Jun 9, 2017 6:57am Jun 9, 2017 6:57am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} I believe you are correct with everything you wrote. IMHO we have not had a decent leader since Margaret Thatcher, although I think Tony Blair was quite a good leader even though I hated the sound of his voice. However, of all those who stepped up to the plate none of them has been as down-right in-your-face rude to opponents as our Nige, and that is why I think he is not a leader. I'm happy to be proved wrong, it is clear that he believes in what he is doing and that is unfortunately rare amongst politicians.

I've never really heard him be rude, plenty of in your face straight talk and he knows how to rattle and expose opponents weaknesses. Anyway if Brexit is derailed I don't think the voting public will be too concerned about his manner so long as he gets stuck in and gets the job done.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #4,676
  • Jun 9, 2017 7:10am Jun 9, 2017 7:10am
Quoting verv
{quote} Already I see people claiming the DUP are 'terrorists'... and making comparisons between Corbyn and Sinn Fein / IRA Looks like the Irish Unionists have saved May's bacon, and potentially rescued Brexit.
I suppose the alternative was Corbyn, Sinn Fein, SNP, Lib Dems plus any terrorist who wants to influence
  • #4,677
  • Jun 9, 2017 7:13am Jun 9, 2017 7:13am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Always thought of it as the perfect hedge - removes stress and only thing you need to decide is when to close the winning side.
In reality, you have a flat position and when you close one side you are opening a directional trade. Plus while you are doing this you are paying more in charges - spread/ commission and carry fees (interest). And then you still need the other side to come back to a profit in order for the strategy to have really worked out or losses eat profits.

Added:

Brokers put this facility into their platforms because it benefits the Brokers. They get an instant double hit in 3 of their 4 profit areas. In the real world you can't do this as the long closes the short and vice-versa.
  • #4,678
  • Jun 9, 2017 7:15am Jun 9, 2017 7:15am
Quoting Exodus
UK renewable energy generation exceeds 50% of demand! ....just http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/renewable-energy-provides-more-than-half-the-uks-electricity-for-the-first-time_uk_5939592ce4b0b13f2c67d80c
I went into a Tesla showroom, you know, just to be nosy and to wind up the sales guys because I'm like that. There was one I looked at with gull wing doors which weighed 3 tonnes, most of that being battery! So I wondered how that would react if I were to swing it around a chicane. I was told the range was 300 miles on a full charge, which takes overnight, but you can have mini charges, taking 23 minutes giving a range of 170 miles. Now, what is not clear is how you drive it to get that range, because in reality, you never achieve what they quote. Probably you have to drive it like a milk float. So, what would be the range if I thrashed it? 50 miles? The technology in the batteries is similar to the battery in your phone and when that starts getting a little old, it gets a bit inaccurate. You look and see 50% charge and think you're fine and dandy, then the next minute, you're as good as running on vapour. I am not convinced the car won't do the same. Anyway, 0-60 in 2.4 seconds is pretty cool, but I guess with that weight (and being American), that would only be good for going in a straight line.
  • #4,679
  • Jun 9, 2017 7:21am Jun 9, 2017 7:21am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} I suppose the alternative was Corbyn, Sinn Fein, SNP, Lib Dems plus any terrorist who wants to influence
I'm sure Mr Adams would have sent his MP's to Westminster under those circumstances.
  • #4,680
  • Jun 9, 2017 7:23am Jun 9, 2017 7:23am
I'm buying a MUG to help support this young lad who is obviously under a gagging order at the moment because of his videos. The kid is awake and just sharing his news and his thoughts. It's a disgrace. I have experienced this tyranny first hand with my daughter few years ago.

https://youtu.be/EH3gacZHICY
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
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