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  • #66,481
  • May 17, 2017 3:19pm May 17, 2017 3:19pm
Quoting SunTrader
{quote} They don't need someone else to give them a heads up. Waaaaaay too much of that here - along with the bragging if it works out but silence if it doesn't. They need to just look at a chart.
Exactly, if you want to be transparent, put up an explorer. Otherwise, so true, brag when correct, silence when not.
  • #66,482
  • May 17, 2017 3:22pm May 17, 2017 3:22pm
Quoting NMZee
{quote} what goes 50 pips?? Uj will be going to 109.5x. Find a price to hedge it. Pray that asia pulls it up a little thenhedge your position.
Unless you're in the US and NOT using an offshore broker. Then, of course, in the land of the free, you do not have that option.
  • #66,483
  • May 17, 2017 3:41pm May 17, 2017 3:41pm
I Think this is all a secret ploy by trump to devalue the US dollar.
  • #66,484
  • May 17, 2017 3:45pm May 17, 2017 3:45pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Unless you're in the US and NOT using an offshore broker. Then, of course, in the land of the free, you do not have that option.
Not to argue, but technically you can hedge in the US, you just have to be a little creative. Basically open up 2 accounts and do your normal trading with 1 & hedge with the other.
  • #66,485
  • May 17, 2017 4:00pm May 17, 2017 4:00pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Unless you're in the US and NOT using an offshore broker. Then, of course, in the land of the free, you do not have that option.
Please can you not make that sentence more complicated.
  • #66,486
  • May 17, 2017 4:01pm May 17, 2017 4:01pm
Looks like it's going to 110?
  • #66,487
  • May 17, 2017 4:01pm May 17, 2017 4:01pm
Quoting Nate04
{quote} Not to argue, but technically you can hedge in the US, you just have to be a little creative. Basically open up 2 accounts and do your normal trading with 1 & hedge with the other.
You mean do normal trading in both, but one the opposite of the other. Long in one, short in the other. That works as long as one makes enough profit before the other busts out. Otherwise you are back to being unhedged or you have to put more money in the almost deficit account
  • #66,488
  • May 17, 2017 4:03pm May 17, 2017 4:03pm
Quoting Starcraftmaz
I Think this is all a secret ploy by trump to devalue the US dollar.
Starrrrrrr, you just blew up his master plan you evil genious. Well jokes apart, that is his agenda but this is for totally diff reasons.
  • #66,489
  • May 17, 2017 4:22pm May 17, 2017 4:22pm
Quoting Nate04
{quote} Not to argue, but technically you can hedge in the US, you just have to be a little creative. Basically open up 2 accounts and do your normal trading with 1 & hedge with the other.
True, but they already require 20 times the margin just for one account, so now I would need 40 times the amount. I'll stick with my 500:1 broker with hedging allowed. I keep 90% of my actual trading capital safely in my FDIC insured bank and only provide broker what is needed. So my $5,000 account is the equivalent of a $50,000 US account.
  • #66,490
  • May 17, 2017 4:23pm May 17, 2017 4:23pm
Quoting NMZee
{quote} Please can you not make that sentence more complicated.
Sure, hedging is not allowed with US brokers.
  • #66,491
  • May 17, 2017 6:55pm May 17, 2017 6:55pm
111.4 first fib for retrace 23.6%
  • #66,492
  • May 17, 2017 10:54pm May 17, 2017 10:54pm
Quoting SunTrader
{quote} You mean do normal trading in both, but one the opposite of the other. Long in one, short in the other. That works as long as one makes enough profit before the other busts out. Otherwise you are back to being unhedged or you have to put more money in the almost deficit account
Definitely. Nothing is easy about it. I personally don't hedge, so I'm not saying it should be done... Just saying it can be done.
  • #66,493
  • May 17, 2017 11:29pm May 17, 2017 11:29pm
Quoting ensale
{quote} Yep but its a safe haven
Safe haven is the opposite of high yield. A high yield currency is one that pays you interest to hold it, rates are negative on the EUR and JPY but they are considered safe havens because these are surplus economies i.e they have huge trade surpluses and they hold large fx reserves. The US is a debtor nation with a huge twin deficit, yields need to be high to attract investors (or what is commonly known as the carry trade), these trades tend to unwind when speculators want to get out of risk.
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  • #66,494
  • May 17, 2017 11:47pm May 17, 2017 11:47pm
So EUR is more safe heaven than the USD? I though the opposite?

Is there like a ranking of what currencies according to how safe heaven they are relative to each other?
  • #66,495
  • May 17, 2017 11:57pm May 17, 2017 11:57pm
Bullish/Bearish domain.

Currently sideway slightly bearish, bearish correction
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  • #66,496
  • May 18, 2017 12:53am May 18, 2017 12:53am
Quoting Starcraftmaz
111.4 first fib for retrace 23.6%
Hey star, during the asian session uj went up like 80 pips. Will it go up now or come down?
  • #66,497
  • May 18, 2017 1:09am May 18, 2017 1:09am
It going down like a stone they say. USD is pretty weak maybe another test of the 110.
  • #66,498
  • May 18, 2017 2:37am May 18, 2017 2:37am
about 112 is fair value ?
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  • #66,499
  • May 18, 2017 3:49am May 18, 2017 3:49am
Today I decided to start buying , I bought for 111, my goal is 113 . Now it is possible that we go down to 109,6 or below, as expected, but also can return to 113.1 before further decline.
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  • #66,500
  • May 18, 2017 4:14am May 18, 2017 4:14am
Quoting Mpak
Today I decided to start buying , I bought for 111, my goal is 113 . Now it is possible that we go down to 109,6 or below, as expected, but also can return to 113.1 before further decline. {image}
So in short, we can go down as expected BUT we can also go up before down. Am i correct...? Because i want to sell cuz its going down but i also wants to buy it before i sell it just incase it goes up b4 down. Thats some cool strategy mate sign me up for it
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