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  • #2,321
  • Apr 8, 2017 2:25am Apr 8, 2017 2:25am
Quoting KhaosTrader
The cold hard truth guys.... In order to properly have a decent forward test, you need AT LEAST 100 data points, some would argue 300.... if not 700. So it probably will take anywheres from 2 to 6 years with your current forward testing to know if its a good and reliable system. And that's after we figure out how to make sure we are all getting proper signals and entry and exit executions. That's the truth.. many won't want to hear it, but its just sound math. You wont get convergence with a few dozen datapoints.
Sure, what about backtest results using Smoothtraders excel workbook. That's got to count for something otherwise he wouldent of spent the man hours on it?
  • #2,322
  • Apr 8, 2017 3:19am Apr 8, 2017 3:19am
Quoting ajs5274
{quote} Sure, what about backtest results using Smoothtraders excel workbook. That's got to count for something otherwise he wouldent of spent the man hours on it?

Backtesting is not that accurate in showing the future profitability of a system in and of itself.. Any experienced operator knows that backtesting flushes bad ideas out at best, but offers little value beyond that. Forward testing is where its at. That is what most experienced traders will tell you. Plus from what I have read, MT4 doesnt have a good backtester regardless.
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  • #2,323
  • Apr 8, 2017 4:23am Apr 8, 2017 4:23am
xmess 7 if that is the case shouldent both histograms be the same? (same mt4 platform). Replying to post #2318

10080, current= false, bar instead of ma= false

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10080, current= true, bar instead of ma = false.

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  • #2,324
  • Apr 8, 2017 4:37am Apr 8, 2017 4:37am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Check your globals. The numbers should still be there.
Hi Xmess I had the same problem with EAV35. Closed the trades bang on time though

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My weekly basket closed out on Monday or Tuesday so have been doing dailies since then on 1449 false false

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Have attached csv files for those who can get their heads around them

Is anyone using Open Office to create the graphs??? If so a short tutorial might assist my one remaining brain cell a bit Please

Again many thanks to all who created this amazing EA. Not such a stellar week this week but still in profit
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  • #2,325
  • Apr 8, 2017 4:50am Apr 8, 2017 4:50am
Sorry for yet another newbie problem, but as you can see from the screenshot I cannot see the upper part due to unknown reasons.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you for sharing this.
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  • #2,326
  • Apr 8, 2017 4:52am Apr 8, 2017 4:52am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} If your input CURRENT is False on the CCfp-Diff indicator then it makes sense that you have that difference. You see with CURRENT=False you are telling that indicator to calculate the strengths of the pairs up until the end of last week. So basically this means that the values are set and do not change until the NEXT week. The histogram however, continues to calculate the strengths up until this very moment. In order for both to match you would need to set CURRENT to True. Then the indicator will calculate the strengths up until this very...
Hi
Comming bach to the settings CURRENT true or false I applied 2 screenshot of this morning. I makes great different. Maybe this is the reason that I was stopped out the last 2 days at opening 09.00 GMT. Have a nice weekend. Regards Berry
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  • #2,327
  • Apr 8, 2017 6:09am Apr 8, 2017 6:09am
Hi Folks,

Different CCFp Strenght metter are caused by diifferent broker times and data feeds and openings of market.....

Try to look at pictures, same instrument (XAUUSD), same price, but different brokers, different time, different charts! (open of H4 candles is shifted by 1 hour) generates different conditions for CCFp.
It's good reason for testing to save Broker's name and Brokers Time to Xcel tab for valid and comparable results.

A.
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  • #2,328
  • Apr 8, 2017 6:19am Apr 8, 2017 6:19am
Quoting alesridl
Hi Folks, Different CCFp Strenght metter are caused by diifferent broker times and data feeds and openings of market..... Try to look at pictures, same instrument - XAUUSD - different brokers, different time, different charts! (open of H4 candles is shifted by 1 hour) generates different conditions for CCFp. It's good reason for testing to save Broker's name and Brokers Time to Xcel tab for valid and comparable results. A. {image} {image}

Ok I can add it to the google spreadsheet if enough interest?
  • #2,329
  • Apr 8, 2017 6:29am Apr 8, 2017 6:29am
Quoting ajs5274
{quote} Ok I can add it to the google spreadsheet if enough interest?
Ok Thanks, please add these fields

1. Broker name
2. Broker GMT Time
3. Time of open of H4 candle - 8-12h (because you can have same broker time but different open of candle!!

etc. ICMarkets, GMT+1, H4o 09.00h

Next week i'll start new VPS and will add more CCFP for testing.

Thanks a lot

A.
  • #2,330
  • Apr 8, 2017 6:41am Apr 8, 2017 6:41am
I have good(?) idea:
Why not put so many indis on 1 chart instead of coding a pure dashboard
which shows only the signals like the CCP Diff does?
In the settings the strategy setting like using Weekly, daily and H4 and the level
And if it has a property like: Actual candle and if the candle is >0 a calculation
for historical success for a given TP/SL
Then you can calculate automatically instead of collection hours the data here!
Layout: Top left like in CCPF Diff.....
Top right: Success of results if in historical mode....
Coding and testing time: About 10-20 hours
V2: Other strategies or settings where the strategy can be set!
It s only an idea to simply it here....I think u have coders here...
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Vucking good EA coder... https://t.ly/AZjRM
  • #2,331
  • Apr 8, 2017 7:34am Apr 8, 2017 7:34am
Quoting ajs5274
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Everything look's fine to me!
Buy the strong one against the other!??

Green=buy
Red=sell

Basic thing in the forex market....
  • #2,332
  • Apr 8, 2017 7:45am Apr 8, 2017 7:45am
Quoting Thedenus
{quote} Everything look's fine to me! Buy the strong one against the other!??
So when we have a histogram for sell and buy both the same strength what do you do? Disable the indicator for that pair and take the others?
  • #2,333
  • Apr 8, 2017 8:28am Apr 8, 2017 8:28am
Quoting ajs5274
{quote} Regarding my post, the indicator is set to 10080 and false ,false....does anybody have a screen shot from Sunday or Monday of the weekly signal? I have another screen shot taken Thursday at 6am GMT and the histogram and signal are the same. Coffeebus which other pairs do you see that are not correct? Are you talking about GU , EG .... xmess7, I have always selected 8 pairs to trade no matter what signal is generated. So how does your EA pick the 8 signals out of a possible 16? As you can see, for me it dident pick GU or EGBP. So this week...
ajs5274:
The only way that the EA will only open less pairs than what is on that list is if you do not have enough margin. The EA first checks to see if you have enough margin before taking a trade. If not, it skips the pair and goes on to the next and repeats the check.

If you do have enough margin and you are still getting a smaller number of trades than the list. PM me, that is an issue we have to figure out.

As for the histogram thing:
Think about it this way. Say I told you to record the strength of all the pairs each week. That's you job. You write down the values for each currency and recalculate them on each tick. You only stop when the market closes and start again when the market opens.
Then each Sunday when the market opens I ask you to give me the numbers you calculated for the last two weeks.

So you see you continue calculating and that allows you to have fresh up to date currency strength values. (You represent the histogram indicator)
Where I only have the currency strength values you gave me on Sunday when the market opened. (I represent the CCFp-diff indicator)
Unless if I Tell you to give me the values each tick (CURRENT=TRUE) I will continue to show the list that I generated on Sunday.
That list will only change on the next Sunday, cause then I will ask you for the currency strengths you calculated.

Got it?
Set CURRENT=False and you have the CCfP-Diff updating the list once a week.
Set CURRENT=True and then you have the CCfP-Diff updating the list every tick.
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  • #2,334
  • Apr 8, 2017 8:33am Apr 8, 2017 8:33am
Quoting Netgold777
{quote} Hi Xmess I had the same problem with EAV35. Closed the trades bang on time though {image} {image} My weekly basket closed out on Monday or Tuesday so have been doing dailies since then on 1449 false false {file} {file} {file} Have attached csv files for those who can get their heads around them Is anyone using Open Office to create the graphs??? If so a short tutorial might assist my one remaining brain cell a bit Please Again many thanks to all who created this amazing EA. Not such a stellar week...
Netgold777:
Like I told Pinbar, v35 had a change by where I made it a priority to close the trades properly vs keeping the pipcount and all that intact.
v36 addresses that and should keep the stats on the chart. I will release it today... It has many changes and some new input features.

J.
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  • #2,335
  • Apr 8, 2017 8:35am Apr 8, 2017 8:35am
Quoting berrypop
{quote} Hi Comming bach to the settings CURRENT true or false I applied 2 screenshot of this morning. I makes great different. Maybe this is the reason that I was stopped out the last 2 days at opening 09.00 GMT. Have a nice weekend. Regards Berry{image}{image}
berry:
I assume the top image is CURRENT=False?
thnx
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  • #2,336
  • Apr 8, 2017 8:47am Apr 8, 2017 8:47am
Quoting ajs5274
{quote} So when we have a histogram for sell and buy both the same strength what do you do? Disable the indicator for that pair and take the others?
ajs:
The CCfp-Diff establishes strength values for each currency, right? The Trade_Level is what is used to determine which currency to pair with as the Strongest vs the Weakest.

Example say that the following where calculated strengths:
EUR 7.0
GBP -4.0
USD 1.0
CAD -3.0
JPY -3.0
If the Trade_Level=2 then we look to pair up currencies that are above 2 with currencies that are below -2.
So this is what the pairs result (which would be the suggested list) would be for those 5 currency strengths. 10 strong buy, -10 strong sell
EUR/GBP (EUR is greater than 2 and GBP is less than -2)
EUR/CAD
EUR/JPY

So you see in order for the currencies to be considered they have to be at either greater then Trade_Level or less than Trade_Level.
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  • #2,337
  • Apr 8, 2017 8:52am Apr 8, 2017 8:52am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} berry: I assume the top image is CURRENT=False? thnx
Hi Jess

That's right
  • #2,338
  • Apr 8, 2017 9:12am Apr 8, 2017 9:12am
Quoting ajs5274
xmess 7 if that is the case shouldent both histograms be the same? (same mt4 platform). Replying to post #2318 10080, current= false, bar instead of ma= false {image} 10080, current= true, bar instead of ma = false. {image}
Nevermind my comments LOL.
I just figured out that UseCurrent is the input and not CURRENT.
I was incorrect, the histo does not calc every tick when UseCurrent=True. It just calcs the strengths either starting this week or starting the previous week

UseCurrent only tells the indicator to either use this Period or use the default which is a period ago.

For example UseCurrent=False means that the indicator will start calc strengths using 1 week ago from sunday
Where as UseCurrent=True means to to start calc strengths from begining of this week(0)

Sorry I better just stick to the EA...
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  • #2,339
  • Apr 8, 2017 9:13am Apr 8, 2017 9:13am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} ajs5274: The only way that the EA will only open less pairs than what is on that list is if you do not have enough margin. The EA first checks to see if you have enough margin before taking a trade. If not, it skips the pair and goes on to the next and repeats the check. If you do have enough margin and you are still getting a smaller number of trades than the list. PM me, that is an issue we have to figure out. As for the histogram thing: Think about it this way. Say I told you to record the strength of all the pairs each week. That's you...
xmess7 I think you misunderstood. In your ea I am only selecting 8 pairs to trade. The indicator has all 28 pairs available to to trade. So what criteria does the ea use to select the pairs to trade? Last week I had at least 3 nzd pairs.

I seem to remember you talking about knowing the signals before they are refreshed. So the market close histogram and signals with the true,false should equal next week false, false signal.? If I selected to trade 8 pairs can it pick the strongest selection (biggest histogram difference) ?

Also if we have a pair with equal buy and sell strength should the ea not trade the signals?

Thanks again for your tremendous efforts.
  • #2,340
  • Apr 8, 2017 9:16am Apr 8, 2017 9:16am
Quoting alesridl
Hi Forexpinbar, Jess, I see new versions of CCFp at thread https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=481576 There is a new version 3.01 in source code. Can we build it and use this with xm7 v35? Thanks Ale {image}
If it's CCFp_v1.0.3cvert (1)
then the EA will not recognize it.
That indicator does not provide a suggested list of pairs.

Jess
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