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  • #3,481
  • Mar 29, 2017 4:35pm Mar 29, 2017 4:35pm
We have a wonderful opportunity to work together on the spread sheet and formulas here now. Who has had good results with gap theory and how? What have been the setbacks and why? If there are any true, verifiable and promising variations we can set up some trade managers, test variations and create a real, workable system.

This being said I have not seen consistent results trading Gap yet. There are periods of good promise followed by draw downs. I suspect this is what every one else is experiencing or we would see trade managers to verify the claimed performance. I would love to see otherwise.

I have developed a good EA for importing rolling data that is adjusted for weekends and have a spreadsheet that will adjust movements to a USD standard value to measure gap relevance that I can bring to the table. What else do we have?

Best Regards,
dlouw
  • #3,482
  • Edited 6:07pm Mar 29, 2017 5:45pm | Edited 6:07pm
Quoting JibalaPasan
{quote} It's just to use someone's words but he's absolutely right. I'm not here to entertain myself. I have for sure other things to do. Wish you guys best of luck and green pips always. Jibala
You're only quoting part of Gene's words.
His Basket Trading writers and EAs were the ones I started trading with more than 5 years ago. Brilliant stuff and still using it from time to time.
Notwithstanding the words in the first line, a couple of lines down in the same post, he also writes "There is no holy grail in Forex,".
Would you agree to that too ?

Many traders on this forum have tried to replicate your Gap Trading / Spaghetti bolognese / Countertrend / Wukar Robot, to no avail so far (AFAIK).
"Many traders" includes myself during 2 years of full-time dedication, aided by the brightest minds in statistics, maths, programmers, ...
OK, partly based on the ideas I have managed to develop a "surefire" EA (> 90% hitrate) but I only let it trade after my last look approval...

It is my view that one needs to be an excellent discretionary trader before even thinking of becoming an algorithm based trader.
I am pretty sure you agree to this.
Not sure if there are many great discretionary traders frequenting this forum, which might explain the lack of feedback beyond a certain level you are referring to.
In other words, algorithm sparring partners are sparse here... You'd be better off at the Willmott's forum (-;

If you have really managed to develop a consistently profitable "holy grail" EA without human intervention, congratulations !!!
From 1 trader (me) to another (you), thank you very much for your valuable contributions.
Now, you dropped a line saying you are an altruistic person involved in "certain" projects to make this world a better world ?
If so, we are pretty much on the same page in terms of ideology. A great deal of my spare time is spent in NPOs.

Q: Why don't you put your money where your mouth is ?
Setup a copier / managed account / whatever you are comfortable with. Get plenty of funds on board and do a hefty bit of wealth re-distribution.

Take care, hasta la vista.

LuXing
Wisdom begins in wonder
  • #3,483
  • Mar 29, 2017 10:50pm Mar 29, 2017 10:50pm
Quoting dlouw
We have a wonderful opportunity to work together on the spread sheet and formulas here now.
Agree, we have always had an opportunity for a group however for it to work there should be clear and agreed guidelines, I have tried to setup a couple of groups, one with Seller9, see here and had his backing, he was keen and we had 23 people, some of whom were prepared to even contribute financially to a meeting room, the initial input was encouraging but it died off and lasted for about 5 months.
It is a huge amount of work to setup, no different from a real business if you are going to do it properly ... and who is going to be the "co=ordinator", there has to be someone who co-ordinates everything.
If anyone wants to do it, in my opinion the first thing is a plan and who is going to step up for that or alternatively what is everyone's idea for the plan e.g.
Do we use Speedometer or start from scratch?
Next, if Speedometer, does everyone have the same version of Excel or is it going to be done in the cloud.
If so what are the skills of participants?
What time can they commit?
Where do they live so we can have group discussions, who is going to "Chair" the discussions, there needs to be a person "managing".
What are the expectations, what is the agenda - what input is needed, who is delegated what and who is responsible.
Just a few aspects for consideration.
And I am interested ...
Cheers
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #3,484
  • Mar 30, 2017 11:37am Mar 30, 2017 11:37am
Hello LuXing,

glad to see you still alive in the thread,I thought they'd locked you up

About this system and possible working team,the real problem is to have free time for tons and millions of after-the-fact trades analysis.
Trust me when I say,with this system the right Filters alignment is only the 50% of the job,'cos there are important Time frames when a particular pair IS NOT TO BE TOUCHED .
The worst thing is,when you lose a trade,you could never know if it is due to a bad Filter choice or to a wrong entry time for that particular pair.

All of this stuff is fascinating
Quoting Spock here
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  • #3,485
  • Mar 30, 2017 3:44pm Mar 30, 2017 3:44pm
Looks like we have some interest again. This forum was created to collaborate on this project. Is there any reason we cannot use it for that purpose now?

1) We need to decide on a base. Speedometer seems to be the basis that we are working with. There are several variations. Let's see who comes forward with what features.
2) A short Bio of skill would be nice. trading experiance, MT4 coding, Excel, VBA, and math skills. I know we have a lot of resources here. Who is willing to come forward?
3) We will also need many to host designated variations and share results with the group. Weekly reports or trade explorer?

the bourne you have always been exemplary in sharing your findings, successes and failures. Do you thing we could implement time frames and pairs as filters to refine our research? if we can work from a common base and segregate the variables from test to test over the same time periods working together we should be able to collect and analyze data very efficiently.

LuXing i am sure we will love to have your experience and work ethic in the process. Are you in?
  • #3,486
  • Mar 31, 2017 2:11pm Mar 31, 2017 2:11pm
Hello brother LuXing,

just some final words to your comment.

Quoting LuXing
You're only quoting part of Gene's words. His Basket Trading writers and EAs were the ones I started trading with more than 5 years ago. Brilliant stuff and still using it from time to time. Notwithstanding the words in the first line, a couple of lines down in the same post, he also writes "There is no holy grail in Forex,". Would you agree to that too ?
I never said that we have a holy grail and I've shown many trades in the past where SL was hit.

Quoting LuXing
Many traders on this forum have tried to replicate your Gap Trading / Spaghetti bolognese / Countertrend / Wukar Robot, to no avail so far (AFAIK). "Many traders" includes myself during 2 years of full-time dedication, aided by the brightest minds in statistics, maths, programmers, ...
We all had the same base, the same chance to make the best of it! Zero programming skills in VBA, simple M$ Excel only.
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Quoting LuXing
OK, partly based on the ideas I have managed to develop a "surefire" EA (> 90% hitrate) but I only let it trade after my last look approval... It is my view that one needs to be an excellent discretionary trader before even thinking of becoming an algorithm based trader. I am pretty sure you agree to this.
I fully agree and everybody can be sure that Nathalia (not me) is an excellent trader. If she opens the GER30 chart, she exactly knows what to do. She opened the chart and did not wait for a second even. 20 Pips, each in just a couple of minutes!
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Quoting LuXing
Not sure if there are many great discretionary traders frequenting this forum, which might explain the lack of feedback beyond a certain level you are referring to. In other words, algorithm sparring partners are sparse here... You'd be better off at the Willmott's forum (-;
It's all about logic, calculations and logic again.

Quoting LuXing
If you have really managed to develop a consistently profitable "holy grail" EA without human intervention, congratulations !!!
I am a user only. The team has studied and analyzed my mistakes in trading. Based on that they have developed a great trading platform (which is not one system only!) with a high success rate. Version 6 is out since of last week Wednesday afternoon and it has collected almost 1.5k Pips till Friday evening.
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Short and long almost the same time and both to TP! I could show tons of screens with such amazing trades. I really can't believe what I see, how this BOT is placing the orders.

Quoting LuXing
From 1 trader (me) to another (you), thank you very much for your valuable contributions. Now, you dropped a line saying you are an altruistic person involved in "certain" projects to make this world a better world ? If so, we are pretty much on the same page in terms of ideology. A great deal of my spare time is spent in NPOs. Q: Why don't you put your money where your mouth is ? Setup a copier / managed account / whatever you are comfortable with. Get plenty of funds on board and do a hefty bit of wealth re-distribution. Take care, hasta la vista....
That's exactly what Nathalia was going to do. She was talking to some Brokers about the proceedings, send order details to mail - skype - twitter - facebook, everything was (is still) ready to go, but then she's thinking about such losers and dumbass (read back some of the one hit wonders comments) and everything goes back into her drawer. However, lots of other ideas are inside there and I guess it will last until V 6.5 to have some of them implemented and ready to go. Very excited what will be the next feature.

However, you guys or most of you will find the right way and the others are not worth to talk about. They will follow the one hit wonders and jump from one thread to the next continuously searching the holy grail, posting bullshit and talking about useless nonsense, because they are like it.

I want to thank you and many others for the contribution to this thread and wishing you all best of luck for the future.

Jibala
PDF & BCC (Patience Discipline Focus & Belief Confidence Consistency)
  • #3,487
  • Mar 31, 2017 7:00pm Mar 31, 2017 7:00pm
Quoting JibalaPasan
Hello brother LuXing, just some final words to your comment. {quote} I never said that we have a holy grail and I've shown many trades in the past where SL was hit. {quote} We all had the same base, the same chance to make the best of it! Zero programming skills in VBA, simple M$ Excel only. {image} {quote} I fully agree and everybody can be sure that Nathalia (not me) is an excellent trader. If she opens the GER30 chart, she exactly knows what to do. She opened the chart and did not wait for a second even. 20 Pips, each in just a couple of minutes!...

Hi jibala

Good to read your post after along time...
What every you write here is correct but you know in real world there is always bad people who criticize for what ever reason and same thing happen some one came in this thread and write non seance comments.... and Nathalia change her decisions just because of that..... (means she did not think about 100 people who always respect her for her contribution but she just thought about one persons who wrote bad words here... and change her mind.) .

Even in every society every day lie such thing happen we do not change our decision just because of 1 or 2 persons opinion against the 100 persons

This is my thought....

Thanks for posting your pips summary and charts .... at least keep motivating others ... that yes it is possible in real world this type of results...

MK
  • #3,488
  • Apr 1, 2017 2:16pm Apr 1, 2017 2:16pm
Still learning more every day....coding beneath is like eggs sunny sideup!

Anyone here interesting in working +coding with me?

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  • #3,489
  • Apr 1, 2017 4:59pm Apr 1, 2017 4:59pm
Quoting JibalaPasan
Hello brother LuXing, just some final words to your comment. {quote} I never said that we have a holy grail and I've shown many trades in the past where SL was hit. {quote} We all had the same base, the same chance to make the best of it! Zero programming skills in VBA, simple M$ Excel only. {image} {quote} I fully agree and everybody can be sure that Nathalia (not me) is an excellent trader. If she opens the GER30 chart, she exactly knows what to do. She opened the chart and did not wait for a second even. 20 Pips, each in just a couple of minutes!...
Again more of the same non-sense. If you want to help -- truly help. If you want to teach -- truly teach. If you want to show pretty charts full of jibberish that people don't understand and boast how great trading is with a unproven trading report with 10000+ pips then you can do that as well.
Why not show your real account so that at least this group can follow your trades? #1 you would be proving that you actually took those trades on a real account and #2 people seeing your exact entries can follow along.
If I show an example of a winning trade (buy GBPUSD at red vertical line) such as this and say I made 40 pips without disclosing the rules step by step would that make people feel confused and frustrated? I think so.. So why not start even this late in the thread to disclose your trading rules and show proof of your claimed winning record?

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  • #3,490
  • Apr 1, 2017 5:56pm Apr 1, 2017 5:56pm
Quoting reteid2222
Still learning more every day....coding beneath is like eggs sunny sideup! Anyone here interesting in working +coding with me? {image}
Hi Reteied

I am interested to working with you on this system. Please let me know ?

Thanks

MK
  • #3,491
  • Apr 2, 2017 7:39am Apr 2, 2017 7:39am
Quoting reteid2222
Still learning more every day....coding beneath is like eggs sunny sideup! Anyone here interesting in working +coding with me? {image}
I am in
  • #3,492
  • Edited 1:48pm Apr 2, 2017 1:23pm | Edited 1:48pm
OK, We have interest? Who is in and what are you bringing to the table?

reteid222 - mt4 coding and a sense of humor?
mkfx - ?
Fatso - ?
the bourne - excel experience and knowledge of time frames?
PatItForward - Organization
Jibala Pasan - Inspiration, hints and - ?formulas and code?

Please fill in the ?s and add your name if you are not here.

I will propose we start with the following:

1) Review the definitions on page one, suggest updates, additions and improvements as needed. It is important we all have a clear communication of the concepts involved.
2) Decide whether we will use a fixed time frame, rolling time frame or combination of the two. Please explain your opinion for discussion.

Topics for discussion:

Do we need to utilize the polynomial table or a 0-100 scale for strength and and why?

All the Best,
dlouw
  • #3,493
  • Edited 8:06pm Apr 2, 2017 7:35pm | Edited 8:06pm
Ladies and gentlemen,

In a few days easter, but I have to grieve you .. no Santa Claus who give away gifts. Your children probably already know that you are naive already.
Excel is a good tool that shows the current market
In two or four hours everything may look different
Saying that you understand ... what is red maybe green and what is green red.

Do not say do not use excel...But do it reasonably

And your guru nasap has just got a little rough with his primitive system. I do not think that in a short time he has become a brilliant market analyst.
For this you need other tools like excel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC71...Db4pw/featured

And Jibal will not be remembered because others did it very well ..

I greet and wish you success
if you're doing we all have results with all
  • #3,494
  • Apr 3, 2017 1:35am Apr 3, 2017 1:35am
Quoting dlouw
OK, We have interest? Who is in and what are you bringing to the table? reteid222 - mt4 coding and a sense of humor? mkfx - ? Fatso - ? the bourne - excel experience and knowledge of time frames? PatItForward - Organization Jibala Pasan - Inspiration, hints and - ?formulas and code? Please fill in the ?s and add your name if you are not here. I will propose we start with the following: 1) Review the definitions on page one, suggest updates, additions and improvements as needed. It is important we all have a clear communication of the concepts involved....
"reteid222 - mt4 coding and a sense of humor?
Please fill in the ?s and add your name if you are not here"
OK:
? = "+big know how in VBA Coding cause I m math/info student..."
Filled!
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  • #3,498
  • Apr 3, 2017 5:23pm Apr 3, 2017 5:23pm
Quoting fxspeedster
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Fxsppedster,

I do not know about others but yes with help of Ghostbiker i made money ($ 2600) in real account in last 3 months . Please stop to saying bad things about them ...

If you are following this system from udain time than you can understand whether all closed trades are fake or real.. People who is following this system from udain time they know it and Jibala very well.

Thanks
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  • #3,499
  • Apr 3, 2017 6:00pm Apr 3, 2017 6:00pm
@ Jibala, they are just pushing your buttons trying to upset you ... you do not have to prove anything ... just ignore them and like a bad smell they will eventually go away and try to upset someone else ... it is what they do ... they only stay here because you re-act ... that is what gets them going ...

they are trying to get you banned from FF ... as I said you do not have to prove anything!
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #3,500
  • Apr 3, 2017 6:19pm Apr 3, 2017 6:19pm
Quoting PayItForward
@ Jibala, they are just pushing your buttons trying to upset you ... you do not have to prove anything ... just ignore them and like a bad smell they will eventually go away and try to upset someone else ... it is what they do ... they only stay here because you re-act ... that is what gets them going ... they are trying to get you banned from FF ... as I said you do not have to prove anything!
It seems you are missing the point as well. This is not about 'upsetting' anyone. It is about being transparent and truthful about claiming to make excessive gains and not providing any proof of a live trading record. This is what all these characters mentioned have in common. They can't produce a longer term and consistent live (validated trade by trade) trading report to save their lives yet claim that they make so much profit that it is coming out of their heads. And most people here being gullible truly believe them! Stop and think about this for a minute before starting to defend this kind of behavior. Last time I checked making grandiose claims without providing any proof IS NOT OK.
If it backtests good run it live!
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