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  • #148,861
  • Mar 23, 2017 9:48am Mar 23, 2017 9:48am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the man who saw the evidence cant say what he saw. but he did say Sunday it was circumstantial.. he now says its greater than circumstantial. his example of circumstantial is, going to bed and waking to see snow on the ground. he said that is circumstantial evidence it snowed the night before. proof is the act of actually seeing it snow.. in his example he has raised his Sunday assessment above circumstantial make of that what you may.
Yup. I think there's a lot of meat on this bone. What is important is how much of it sees light in the end. Investigators are human. So there's political motives, career motives and error that dims that light. Might be time for today's journalists to get off the couch and take a break from shilling snacks and clicks and refresh their professional mission. Woodward has retired to the book tour circuit. Need some younger hounds now.
  • #148,862
  • Mar 23, 2017 10:00am Mar 23, 2017 10:00am
A rather dull sessions with only Sterling* moving as widely expected since triggering RMT.

On the rest of the board very little to track and for the rest of the day we have local US news that will affect some very specific sectors in Stocks if pass, otherwise it will just add to the feeling that candidate Trump ideas are going to crash against a big wall in Trump President land....

sisse

Quoting gatorinla
{quote} in his own words.. he said traitors should be shot. Nixon was going to jail had ford not pardon him. 3 hots and a cot.. and the added bonus of all the sex u want. this Russian stuff isn't new.. we have talked about it since January 2016. it was just drowned by the Russian bots..
A bad penny always turns up...

Politicians like him don't just fade away so easy. History and almost in every single comparable case across the world just give us 3 and sadly (only 3) key correlations for a major fall down from a populist/nationalistic leader: either by 'Time Decay' (some can last as long as Castro in Cuba or Mugabe in Zimbawe, etc), by 'Blood' (Ghadafi, Mussolini, Hussain etc or the countless list of banana republic populist and nationalistic presidents and dictators), or by 'Dead' (Chavez recently in Venezuela)...none seem to be in play for now ...

In my opinion, as long as the big $$$ are making a killer fleecing markets, regulation, subsides, tax and etc, the odds of a dramatic change are zero to none.

He will make major fck up, there will be blood, there will be tears, there will be less democracy, less freedom, less free markets, less free trade, and the poorest between his core support will feel the impact in their pockets sooner rather than later if he continue like this (i honestly hope I am very wrong in this one and all turn out good...but I am way pass the age of believing in fairytales).

I have no doubt about it, but for now the 'King Makers' are sitting in the table expecting a feast and are not in 'Behead the King' mode...

sisse
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  • #148,863
  • Mar 23, 2017 10:17am Mar 23, 2017 10:17am
Shorting dow into close from here
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  • #148,864
  • Mar 23, 2017 11:28am Mar 23, 2017 11:28am
Quoting janpec1000
GJ watching for possible clearout and squeeze play. 250 needs to give for directional play for longs, played front side of move yesterday from 700 but got BE on retrace. If 138 gives away this could get very heavy, nothing else to track for invalidation. {image}
Should squeeze now in extended directional move, 250 is pretty much naked.
  • #148,865
  • Mar 23, 2017 2:31pm Mar 23, 2017 2:31pm
TrumpCare vote will be delayed, pretty much in line with expectations.....market moves on hold til the shtf next week...

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  • #148,866
  • Mar 23, 2017 2:54pm Mar 23, 2017 2:54pm
Quoting sisse
A rather dull sessions with only Sterling* moving as widely expected since triggering RMT. On the rest of the board very little to track and for the rest of the day we have local US news that will affect some very specific sectors in Stocks if pass, otherwise it will just add to the feeling that candidate Trump ideas are going to crash against a big wall in Trump President land.... sisse {quote} A...
the koch, king makers have a different view... after all the shit before nov 20.. they had even warmed to hillary over trump.. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...blicans-236389 kinda like hell freezing over for them to favor clinton in nov 2016
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #148,867
  • Mar 23, 2017 4:08pm Mar 23, 2017 4:08pm
Quoting goosebone
. We'll see what happens tomorrow IF they vote (they won't) but all is definitely not rosy in Pottersville tonight.
  • #148,868
  • Mar 23, 2017 4:36pm Mar 23, 2017 4:36pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the koch, king makers have a different view... after all the shit before nov 20.. they had even warmed to hillary over trump.. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...blicans-236389 kinda like hell freezing over for them to favor clinton in nov 2016
Tried to get your 1087/1.13x levels charted yesterday take a look when you get a chance. Not sure if this is the way you meant it.

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...14#post9697714
  • #148,869
  • Mar 23, 2017 4:42pm Mar 23, 2017 4:42pm
Quoting goosebone
{quote} Tried to get your 1087/1.13x levels charted yesterday take a look when you get a chance. Not sure if this is the way you meant it. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...14#post9697714
try drawing 1.046x low at start of consolidation up to the 1.17 high... mid should lay at 1.1086... after a new Low, usual move is to mid... think that's what the post he wrote yesterday was getting at... that's how i play it anyway
  • #148,870
  • Mar 23, 2017 4:47pm Mar 23, 2017 4:47pm
Quoting Don96
{quote} try drawing 1.046x low at start of consolidation up to the 1.17 high... mid should lay at 1.1086... after a new Low, usual move is to mid... think that's what the post he wrote yesterday was getting at... that's how i play it anyway
Thanks. Not in front of charts but that rings a bell as part of 1.247x path. Will try it later.
  • #148,871
  • Mar 23, 2017 5:12pm Mar 23, 2017 5:12pm
Quoting goosebone
{quote} Thanks. Not in front of charts but that rings a bell as part of 1.247x path. Will try it later.
Nice fib level in confluence with 1.087X level

When that is told. We are rolling around last week high. I think that is a bullish roll.
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  • #148,872
  • Edited 7:37pm Mar 23, 2017 5:24pm | Edited 7:37pm
In Gator's post I'm referring to he mentioned 1.13x as the 2X Target. A bull run from current lows at 1.0340 that makes 1.1087 a 1X Target gives you that. I guess that's why I was thinking he meant it that way. Not really a full time mofu guy though (whatever that means) so I prolly f'd it up.

President planning his exit from the issue btw:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/23/house...tells-nbc.html
Blame game doesn't always work out the way you think it will. But then I might be about to get schooled in the "Art of the deal"
  • #148,873
  • Mar 23, 2017 11:14pm Mar 23, 2017 11:14pm
Quoting goosebone
In Gator's post I'm referring to he mentioned 1.13x as the 2X Target. A bull run from current lows at 1.0340 that makes 1.1087 a 1X Target gives you that. I guess that's why I was thinking he meant it that way. Not really a full time mofu guy though (whatever that means) so I prolly f'd it up. President planning his exit from the issue btw: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/23/house...tells-nbc.html Blame game doesn't always work out the way you think it will. But then...
it didn't break 0829 atm,
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  • #148,874
  • Mar 24, 2017 1:28am Mar 24, 2017 1:28am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} it didn't break 0829 atm,
Right.
You were asking for someone to post the chart that's all. No big thing. Nvm.
  • #148,875
  • Mar 24, 2017 3:34am Mar 24, 2017 3:34am
Very strong numbers from the EZ for the opening and this will be the last push and chance of the week in the Euro.

Not much to see or do but same levels, same trades, same all.

sisse
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  • #148,876
  • Mar 24, 2017 4:00am Mar 24, 2017 4:00am
Trying a Eu short up here......
Anybody know time of healthcare vote today? Hoping it doesn't get passed and stocks crash
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
  • #148,877
  • Mar 24, 2017 7:07am Mar 24, 2017 7:07am
Quoting mrcreosote
Trying a Eu short up here...... Anybody know time of healthcare vote today? Hoping it doesn't get passed and stocks crash
Originally they said 8am EST (now) but now I'm seeing 4:30/5 pm EST (around the NY close).
  • #148,878
  • Mar 24, 2017 7:19am Mar 24, 2017 7:19am
Quoting goosebone
{quote} Originally they said 8am EST (now) but now I'm seeing 4:30/5 pm EST (around the NY close).
if the new times are true, we shall be getting one hell of a W close or if late a large gap Sunday night
  • #148,879
  • Mar 24, 2017 7:37am Mar 24, 2017 7:37am
Quoting nutts
{quote} if the new times are true, we shall be getting one hell of a W close or if late a large gap Sunday night
Equities should feel it either way. Maybe some but not too much impact on dollar with a fail, Close to zero impact with a pass would be my guess. We'll see though.
  • #148,880
  • Edited 8:14am Mar 24, 2017 8:02am | Edited 8:14am
A rather dull European session with very little new in play for the rest of the month. NY to come expecting more nothingness until very late in the afternoon that we may have some noise from the US political front....

Quoting goosebone
{quote} Equities should feel it either way. Maybe some but not too much impact on dollar with a fail, Close to zero impact with a pass would be my guess. We'll see though.
I find it rather surprising the amount of interest in this vote when is very little to nothing in play from a strictly economic point of view. A bit of a typical Media made show. From outside it looks rather backwards that politicians have been talking and fighting about this for nearly 9 years and still fighting like children....

If they would have spend 1/10 of the time discussing how to actually reform the healthcare system instead of non sense ideological fights, the US should have by now the best healthcare system in the world. Sadly is probably one of the weakest in the develop word ...who can understand politicians?...but who can understand the voters that keep allowing this to be a circus instead of a technical discussion with social and medical reasons instead of a dogmatic discussion between 2 parties. Shame on both ...

Sure there is big political implications especially for Trump and obviously implications for US in the healthcare sector and immense social consequences for Americans one way or the other. However, from a strictly trading and market view this a rather very local politics impact report.

If it pass, some very very specific big corporations in the sector and related insurers are going to have a feast and great Quarters ahead which is positive for their stocks but nothing out of the scope of macro implications in the economy.There is very little impact in the vote itself beyond a good excuse to keep pushing up in Equities and very short lived 'knee jerk' (if any) to clear the Q on the highs or on profit taking.

Actual there is marginal but more important impact if the vote Flop for Trump as it will add to the broader sense that we won't get much in the economic front for a long time ...

In any case, more politics than economics and markets in this one. In the way to the airport to Toulouse here, so we'll track it on the fly later.

sisse
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