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  • #3,141
  • Feb 26, 2017 11:09am Feb 26, 2017 11:09am
Quoting JibalaPasan
{quote} Ok, only to make and keep it clear for our fellow traders/readers here in the community. Not to have too much confusion. No need thanks, I still have a lot of other work and don't need additional! {image} Jibala
The previous AMS inside spaghetti need to be adjusted. Or you prefer a higher ams for history?
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  • #3,142
  • Feb 26, 2017 11:32am Feb 26, 2017 11:32am
Quoting project13et
{quote} The previous AMS inside spaghetti need to be adjusted. Or you prefer a higher ams for history?
Sry, can't get your point! Can you show a picture and explain a little bit more pls?

Jibala
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  • #3,143
  • Feb 26, 2017 11:44am Feb 26, 2017 11:44am
Quoting JibalaPasan
{quote} Sry, can't get your point! Can you show a picture and explain a little bit more pls? Jibala
Last point in the spaghetti got adjusted , while the previous points don't , using different multiplier point.
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  • #3,144
  • Edited 12:54pm Feb 26, 2017 12:42pm | Edited 12:54pm
Quoting project13et
{quote} Last point in the spaghetti got adjusted , while the previous points don't , using different multiplier point. {image}
Self-adjusting depending on time and market conditions to safe/moderate mode. Can be switched to aggressive mode manually only! Including a self-protection mode. If market drops below/above a certain level the system stops working, trading is locked.
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Manually adjusted to safe/aggressive mode.
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Edit: Current status = best market conditions (varying between the 2 lines)
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Jibala
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  • #3,145
  • Feb 26, 2017 1:00pm Feb 26, 2017 1:00pm
Quoting JibalaPasan
{quote} Self-adjusting depending on time and market conditions to safe/moderate mode. Can be switched to aggressive mode manually only! Including a self-protection mode. If market drops below/above a certain level the system stops working, trading is locked. {image} Manually adjusted to safe/aggressive mode. {image} {image} Edit: Current status = best market conditions (varying between the 2 lines) {image} Jibala
First photo safe second aggressive ? exact in this order?

Best market conditions , but what tolerance should be allow from that level's ? The lowest AMS i saw for you're trades is 1.55 , highest 3.33 if I remember good.
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  • #3,146
  • Feb 26, 2017 1:22pm Feb 26, 2017 1:22pm
Quoting project13et
{quote} First photo safe second aggressive ? exact in this order? Best market conditions , but what tolerance should be allow from that level's ? The lowest AMS i saw for you're trades is 1.55 , highest 3.33 if I remember good.
Exactly in that order. But since you only see the deviation on the spaghetti chart it may look quite a bit different to you.

A value of 1.55 is an absolute no go while 3.33 is still not that bad.

Jibala
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  • #3,147
  • Feb 26, 2017 1:31pm Feb 26, 2017 1:31pm
Quoting JibalaPasan
{quote} Exactly in that order. But since you only see the deviation on the spaghetti chart it may look quite a bit different to you. A value of 1.55 is an absolute no go while 3.33 is still not that bad. Jibala
you're safe point is much higher then mine. No aggressive here , the aggressive mode is ME! , that's a joke of course, I would be happy only with safe/moderate options.

"Self-adjusting depending on time and market conditions "

But you said Edit: Current status = best market conditions (varying between the 2 lines)

Can you explain how to spot the market conditions and when to use safe/moderate , since like that you can self adjust AMS and always get best market conditions between lines.

Thanks,
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  • #3,148
  • Feb 26, 2017 2:05pm Feb 26, 2017 2:05pm
Quoting project13et
{quote} you're safe point is much higher then mine. No aggressive here , the aggressive mode is ME! , that's a joke of course, I would be happy only with safe/moderate options. "Self-adjusting depending on time and market conditions " But you said Edit: Current status = best market conditions (varying between the 2 lines) Can you explain how to spot the market conditions and when to use safe/moderate , since like that you can self adjust AMS and always get best market conditions between lines. Thanks,
That's exactly what you have to explore about. What's good for us doesn't mean to be good for others. Thousands of trades had to be analysed, winners and losers to get the gap for the best values. Our observation when too many orders have been closed, money has been taken from the market, AMS drops dramatically and it looks like everybody wants to sell their positions. On the other hand, when the market is flooded with money, lots of orders have been opened, AMS is rising (of course, what else?) in an uncommonly way. In both situations, the bells are ringing while the first case is more dangerous than the second. I haven't seen a locked robot because of the second case but very often because of the first.

Jibala
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  • #3,149
  • Feb 26, 2017 2:27pm Feb 26, 2017 2:27pm
Quoting JibalaPasan
{quote} That's exactly what you have to explore about. What's good for us doesn't mean to be good for others. Thousands of trades had to be analysed, winners and losers to get the gap for the best values. Our observation when too many orders have been closed, money has been taken from the market, AMS drops dramatically and it looks like everybody wants to sell their positions. On the other hand, when the market is flooded with money, lots of orders have been opened, AMS is rising (of course, what else?) in an uncommonly way. In both situations,...
This is what I am doing sister analyze , decoding you're stuff, coding my stuff , trading and continues repeat that.
For every losing trade, I have to analyze all my winners and to establish how much I would gain/lose if I add or remove a filter.
I am blocking trading at this moment when AMS drops, especially on ASIA since the reversal can happen.

But there are 2 other situation
1) AMS that stay very low for hours (around 2.2), and pair don't reverse ... they just sleep around some levels or moving slow in a direction.
2) It happen for me to get false breakouts during LO at very high AMS. Where there was no CS , and got a spike for 1/2 pairs that pass the filter and then instant reverse.

I am really want a test environment, to be able to test my signal tick by tick with previous data, but at this volume of work, thinks move slow... either the day extend to 48h or I am getting a new "roommate"
You need to win the game every day, battle by battle so yes a test environment is a very good goal.

Thanks,
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  • #3,150
  • Feb 26, 2017 2:44pm Feb 26, 2017 2:44pm
Quoting project13et
{quote} This is what I am doing sister analyze , decoding you're stuff, coding my stuff , trading and continues repeat that. For every losing trade, I have to analyze all my winners and to establish how much I would gain/lose if I add or remove a filter. I am blocking trading at this moment when AMS drops, especially on ASIA since the reversal can happen. But there are 2 other situation 1) AMS that stay very low for hours (around 2.2), and pair don't reverse ... they just sleep around some levels or moving slow in a direction. 2) It happen for me...
AMS between the lines = best trading conditions "if other criteria" are matching! It doesn't mean by itself market is moving and the pips are counting into account one be one. It can remain for hours, the market stalls, is dead, until new money comes into the market or is taken from the market. That mostly happens prior to high impact economic news.

LO is a very high volatile market since 3 markets are overlapping, end of Tokyo, Frankfurt & London. LO has most false breakouts of all markets at all. The best market to test your filters are working properly.

Jibala
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  • #3,151
  • Edited 3:23pm Feb 26, 2017 3:10pm | Edited 3:23pm
Quoting JibalaPasan
{quote} AMS between the lines = best trading conditions "if other criteria" are matching! It doesn't mean by itself market is moving and the pips are counting into account one be one. It can remain for hours, the market stalls, is dead, until new money comes into the market or is taken from the market. That mostly happens prior to high impact economic news. LO is a very high volatile market since 3 markets are overlapping, end of Tokyo, Frankfurt & London. LO has most false breakouts of all markets at all. The best market to test your filters are...
"It can remain for hours, the market stalls, is dead, until new money comes into the market or is taken from the market."

I totally agree, that happen most of times if there is no volatility generator like news impact.
There are spikes of the market where you can cash you're pips very fast, and after the market goes dead again. Just Dead/"Breakout"/Dead.

And that is connected to what I said last night , one of my main problem, because I don't know how to measure volatility. And don't get me wrong, I just don't like the statistic measure of the volatility that is present everywhere, I don't find it good for scalping, comparing a previous move with a current move doesn't say anything to me, since history doesn't apply in present, for manual trading I am measuring it visual from spaghetti and from GD, but for automatic...

"But in days without news or just random session false breakouts still happen a lot, this is the major problem to know what kind of day / session I am expecting"

Exact on that LO points I am gathering information to build an false breakout signal , with a win 3-4 times bigger then SL. At this time I am surrounded by pc's to gather information and still I got the feeling I need few more I don't trust VPS's.

P.S. Just finish too analyze the bulls and bear filter from the latest signal.

TO: 65 TP / 22 SL
LO: 76 TP / 16 SL
NY: 32 TP / 7 SL

They would pass all other filters, including time table and tradable hours.
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  • #3,152
  • Feb 26, 2017 5:22pm Feb 26, 2017 5:22pm
Weekend is not enough for all the modification's. Market open and I am not ready yet
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  • #3,153
  • Feb 26, 2017 7:44pm Feb 26, 2017 7:44pm
I was so patiently waiting for market to open and here are my 2 winners:
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A typical reversal on EURUSD at TO but how the heck it has managed the EURJPY? Wow, wow, wow that's incredible!

Have a green week all together.

Jibala
PDF & BCC (Patience Discipline Focus & Belief Confidence Consistency)
  • #3,154
  • Feb 27, 2017 2:51am Feb 27, 2017 2:51am
Quoting JibalaPasan
And very fast back again to its main direction. {image} {image} Order Details: Main Trend DOWN, BR: 0.01 (+/- 0.73), RS: -8.53 (+/- 6.85), BS: -5.68 (+/- 4.22), BS GAP: -1.77 (+/- 1.14)
Hi Jibala,

I'm reading the thread since the beginning, so sorry to take you back in the past while you're already in the distant future.

Just a clarification about Order Details that you often show together with your trades:

BR, RS, BS, BS GAP to which Timeframe are referred to ?

Are these values calculated on M60 or M15 or are they a result of an average on more timeframes ?

Many compliments for your trading and thank you for your answer.
Bubincka
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  • #3,155
  • Feb 27, 2017 3:10am Feb 27, 2017 3:10am
Quoting JibalaPasan
I was so patiently waiting for market to open and here are my 2 winners: {image} {image} A typical reversal on EURUSD at TO but how the heck it has managed the EURJPY? Wow, wow, wow that's incredible! Have a green week all together. Jibala

Jibala,

About this EJ long trade no one even can think.. You gals are genius and rocking.

May god bless you.. sisters...

Best Regards

MK
  • #3,156
  • Edited 5:48am Feb 27, 2017 5:17am | Edited 5:48am
Quoting JibalaPasan
I was so patiently waiting for market to open and here are my 2 winners: {image} {image} A typical reversal on EURUSD at TO but how the heck it has managed the EURJPY? Wow, wow, wow that's incredible! Have a green week all together. Jibala
How many probability's should we use for a expected value ? A poly fit array , just 2/3 probability's up or down, up/down/neutral ?

Thanks,
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  • #3,157
  • Feb 27, 2017 6:09am Feb 27, 2017 6:09am
Quoting JibalaPasan
I was so patiently waiting for market to open and here are my 2 winners: {image} {image} A typical reversal on EURUSD at TO but how the heck it has managed the EURJPY? Wow, wow, wow that's incredible! Have a green week all together. Jibala
Could you provide m1 chart of those trades?
Thanks
  • #3,158
  • Feb 27, 2017 7:24am Feb 27, 2017 7:24am
EUR pairs doing well after EUR signal...Bought all EUR groups..Happy pipsing everyone.
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  • #3,159
  • Feb 27, 2017 8:02am Feb 27, 2017 8:02am
Quoting Forexpinbar
EUR pairs doing well after EUR signal...Bought all EUR groups..Happy pipsing everyone. {image} {image}
Nice one same by mee

on excel we have evrithing what we need or on mt4 I see no sens to look on both!
  • #3,160
  • Feb 27, 2017 9:08am Feb 27, 2017 9:08am
Quoting bubincka
{quote} Hi Jibala, I'm reading the thread since the beginning, so sorry to take you back in the past while you're already in the distant future. Just a clarification about Order Details that you often show together with your trades: BR, RS, BS, BS GAP to which Timeframe are referred to ? Are these values calculated on M60 or M15 or are they a result of an average on more timeframes ? Many compliments for your trading and thank you for your answer. Bubincka
If I am not totally mistaken it's 24h rolling what I can see so far.

Jibala
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