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  • #1,961
  • Feb 8, 2017 4:58am Feb 8, 2017 4:58am
Quoting verv
{quote} That's not what I said - you said that. You say conspiracy, I say "The price of Liberty is eternal vigilance."
That was Ross and his idiot ban baiting nonsense. As for you, I understand your point and it is a matter of course for us here.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,962
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:00am Feb 8, 2017 5:00am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote}{quote} What is embarrassing is that you see conspiracies around every corner, behind every rock and tree. If you are stupid enough to be incited to violence by words, you are simply unstable. Ban baiting. Dumb, just dumb.
I do not think anyone around here is into conspiracies but you are not being transparent in your intentions
  • #1,963
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:02am Feb 8, 2017 5:02am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} That was Ross and his idiot ban baiting nonsense. As for you, I understand your point and it is a matter of course for us here.
everyone here is humouring you

your not the sharpest tool in the box
  • #1,964
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:05am Feb 8, 2017 5:05am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I think that is what would have to happen to quell the violence. I would start with the last two and work my way towards the top. Here in the states, inciting to riot carries a jail term. Maybe you guys could start there. But if you do not show them that you are serious, then they will continue.
But where are the leaders and followers of islam denouncing these appalling cultural traits and despicable behaviour. Why isn't islam saying stop, this is not acceptable in a civilised world?
  • #1,965
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:24am Feb 8, 2017 5:24am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Cultural destruction cannot occur unless the people allow it. That is my biggest point. People on the streets throwing rocks and sticks at cars???
No, but the rape of innocent nationals by migrants and followers of the religion of peace along with the sexual assault of hundreds of women across Europe by these same people for no crime other than residing in their country of birth will have a severe impact. I have yet to see you denounce any of this. The common theme in all of this is the religion of peace
  • #1,966
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:24am Feb 8, 2017 5:24am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I think that is what would have to happen to quell the violence. I would start with the last two and work my way towards the top. Here in the states, inciting to riot carries a jail term. Maybe you guys could start there. But if you do not show them that you are serious, then they will continue.
Ok so we have covered some ground and you can obviously recognise there is a problem by offering a solution. Problem we have is the large hand of Appeasement (kid gloves for everything) generally takes precedent over enforcing laws. Hence frustrations.

This is not isolated to UK this goes on across Europe and if you research you will find it happens in USA too
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #1,967
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:32am Feb 8, 2017 5:32am
http://toprightnews.com/muslims-tried-to-bring-sharia-law-to-texas-but-they-didnt-count-on-this-mayors-epic-response/


JMN5611 you have it there too. This is one example there are many many more. Texan Mayor enforces the law and look at the backlash.

From 2010 but relevant and lots more when you dig
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/new-jersey-judge-rules-muslim-mans.html
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  • #1,968
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:38am Feb 8, 2017 5:38am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} No, but the rape of innocent nationals by migrants and followers of the religion of peace along with the sexual assault of hundreds of women across Europe by these same people for no crime other than residing in their country of birth will have a severe impact. I have yet to see you denounce any of this. The common theme in all of this is the religion of peace
Allegations of rape are common in this country, to the point where we require forensic evidence for a case to proceed, so without forensic evidence there is nothing to denounce. Forensic evidence is obtained by the woman going to hospital after the act and getting a rape kit performed. Without that, it is considered hearsay. Do you have rape kits in the EU?

Quoting Stu Effex
http://toprightnews.com/muslims-tried-to-bring-sharia-law-to-texas-but-they-didnt-count-on-this-mayors-epic-response/ JMN5611 you have it there too. This is one example there are many many more. Texan Mayor enforces the law and look at the backlash. From 2010 but relevant and lots more when you dig http://joshuapundit.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/new-jersey-judge-rules-muslim-mans.html
That is my point. It was halted in it's tracks. The backlash was considerable however. We have get educated on this and clearly we are not.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,969
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:51am Feb 8, 2017 5:51am
Quoting jmn5611
Allegations of rape are common in this country, to the point where we require forensic evidence for a case to proceed, so without forensic evidence there is nothing to denounce. Forensic evidence is obtained by the woman going to hospital after the act and getting a rape kit performed. Without that, it is considered hearsay. Do you have rape kits in the EU?
You truly are despicable.
  • #1,970
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:51am Feb 8, 2017 5:51am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I watched the first 14 seconds. No way that goes on here. Swat would be out there. It appears to be that there is lawlessness in France.
It is not lawlessness in France, more like the French have an ulterior motive and it all stems from Europe's porous borders. "Refugees," which I refer to as illegals because they are not refugees, can just walk into Europe or cross the Med by dinghy. They walk into France and are then "encouraged" by the French police to make their way to Calais and to the UK. The French don't want them either. There have been reports of these illegals being given train tickets to Calais. Hence the French have been very slow in sorting the situation at Calais. There have been many stand offs between the French border controls and the British.
  • #1,971
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:52am Feb 8, 2017 5:52am
Quote
That is my point. It was halted in it's tracks. The backlash was considerable however. We have get educated on this and clearly we are not.

You can halt it in its tracks by more than ones means. Why not just vet them out at immigration, and save yourself the headache?

Why do you have to wait until they are in your country before doing anything? This makes no sense.
  • #1,972
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:55am Feb 8, 2017 5:55am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Allegations of rape are common in this country, to the point where we require forensic evidence for a case to proceed, so without forensic evidence there is nothing to denounce. Forensic evidence is obtained by the woman going to hospital after the act and getting a rape kit performed. Without that, it is considered hearsay. Do you have rape kits in the EU? {quote} That is my point. It was halted in it's tracks. The backlash was considerable however. We have get educated on this and clearly we are not.
Yes it was and that Mayor was commendable for her actions but the point missed was the backlash was from "Moderate" muslim leaders.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #1,973
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:01am Feb 8, 2017 6:01am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Yes it was and that Mayor was commendable for her actions but the point missed was the backlash was from "Moderate" muslim leaders.
Ah, I see. That is something to ponder.

Quoting Devauxt
{quote} You truly are despicable.
Despicable for asking for evidence of a crime?? Man some of you Euros are a strange bunch.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,974
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:09am Feb 8, 2017 6:09am
Hey Stu, how about some Robbie? A real Northerner!
https://youtu.be/BnO3nijfYmU
https://youtu.be/iy4mXZN1Zzk
  • #1,975
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:19am Feb 8, 2017 6:19am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Ah, I see. That is something to ponder.
Obviously with such a vast land mass it easy for incidents like this to go under the radar in the US but you can nip it in the bud as I'm sure all that Trump is attempting or leave it and hope it does not reach the proportions and scale of problems it is causing across Europe & UK. I don't fully understand your constitution but I think morally and constitutionally you (Not personal as a collective, together) have an obligation to at least acknowledge there are some pretty obvious issues which if left unchecked can easily escalate and erode the very thing you are all trying to protect. (Constitution)

Surely you see the irony in the clowns rampaging over Trump on grounds of racism, sexism, etc. It is really quite ridiculous when they have open arms for a religion that embraces the very ideals they oppose.
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  • #1,976
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:21am Feb 8, 2017 6:21am
https://youtu.be/zHzMLGH1Rfs
  • #1,977
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:26am Feb 8, 2017 6:26am
Quoting jen101
Hey Stu, how about some Robbie? A real Northerner! https://youtu.be/BnO3nijfYmU https://youtu.be/iy4mXZN1Zzk
Ha ha he can chant in tune I suppose but weird and not my cup of tea personally but I respect your fondness for his music

A "Northern" band I like https://youtu.be/wlmMumA0CMU
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #1,978
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:28am Feb 8, 2017 6:28am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} That is part of my point. No, none of us are responsible for what a very small minority did back then. But the perception is that we benefit from it. Here in the USA our problem is that our dollar is several multiples of what currencies are in South America and Southeast Asia. It is the same in the UK but worse. These obvious lawbreakers have to be addressed. If you guys to not do it then eventually they will take over the levers of government. Then they will have military power that rivals ours. That would be bad for the human race. ....
Thank you. A valid point not understood by almost everybody.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #1,979
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:33am Feb 8, 2017 6:33am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Ha ha he can chant in tune I suppose but weird and not my cup of tea personally but I respect your fondness for his music A "Northern" band I like https://youtu.be/wlmMumA0CMU
Eughhh.

I love musical theatre. This is a great scene and interpretation though Sacha Baron Cohen can't sing.
https://youtu.be/7k6uqhKEAOM
  • #1,980
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:39am Feb 8, 2017 6:39am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Eughhh. I love musical theatre. This is a great scene and interpretation though Sacha Baron Cohen can't sing. https://youtu.be/7k6uqhKEAOM
Brilliant
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