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  • #24,721
  • Feb 3, 2017 5:53am Feb 3, 2017 5:53am
Quoting marwan71
First trade Today AU , on the way to the target , hope this near strucutre does not bounce it back {image}
I reduced risk couse might leave my workstation soon and High Impact news coming today .
  • #24,722
  • Feb 3, 2017 6:38am Feb 3, 2017 6:38am
Hello Traders,

I won't be able to join your guys today. Some things have come up but I will be back later to catch up and post the video. Have a profitable session.
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
  • #24,723
  • Feb 3, 2017 7:39am Feb 3, 2017 7:39am
Quoting marwan71
{quote} I reduced risk couse might leave my workstation soon and High Impact news coming today .
Strange , it hit the take profit of ABCD , instead my broker excute my breakeven for 2 pips + and didnt excute my take profit , it hit take profit with before NFP news Spikes and after .

Humm , no issue , first time i see this , im with them since several years but this not normal for me.
  • #24,724
  • Feb 3, 2017 7:40am Feb 3, 2017 7:40am
Quoting marwan71
{quote} Strange , it hit the take profit of ABCD , instead my broker excute my breakeven for 2 pips + and didnt excute my take profit , it hit take profit with before NFP news Spikes and after . Humm , no issue , first time i see this , im with them since several years but this not normal for me.
I din trade. The nfp is crazy. Don't dare to trade. Maybe there was not enough order to fill your trade.
  • #24,725
  • Feb 3, 2017 7:48am Feb 3, 2017 7:48am
Quoting kelvinyun
{quote} I din trade. The nfp is crazy. Don't dare to trade. Maybe there was not enough order to fill your trade.
Thanks for the information , yes I believe so , but since i trade harmonic i noticed news respected very well too , so I do trade before ,during and after news , just i reduce risk before news come out.

Same when i used to trade support resistance for 4H and higher time frame in past, but ived notice harmonic has more accuracy
  • #24,726
  • Feb 3, 2017 7:49am Feb 3, 2017 7:49am
Quoting x3m-PippiN
{quote} I feel you bro! I only had that breakeven trade on Tuesday on 6J. Today I skipped two entries because they seemed weak and they would've both turned out BE trades so... patience ..this too shall pass Wild Gandalf suddenly appears shouting: "You shall not pass!" {image}
Quoting evocpr19
{quote} Why did you switch to NQ (is this Nasdaq?). Is the PA better? I have in my list US500, what is this?
Quoting wigtrade
{quote} Why did you switch to the NQ? I've enjoyed reading your trade analysis on the YM previously, your method at the open was remarkably consistent, your hit rate was epic! I wouldn't be disheartened by a few losers its inevitable no matter how shithot your application is. Keep on trucking man
I switched to the NQ because I got annoyed with the small ranges that YM was trading in last week. NQ always moves and even though PA is more volatile, for the same amount of risk or less than I was using on YM, the reward seems to be bigger.

I haven't incurred any losses because I haven't even put on any trades due to being confused with the PA.

We'll see how today goes, and I'll be taking a closer look over the weekend to see why I've been struggling.

Evo - NQ is the Nasdaq future. US500 sounds like it's the ES, not sure what NQ is in the cfd.
  • #24,727
  • Feb 3, 2017 8:29am Feb 3, 2017 8:29am
Quoting marwan71
{quote} Strange , it hit the take profit of ABCD , instead my broker excute my breakeven for 2 pips + and didnt excute my take profit , it hit take profit with before NFP news Spikes and after . Humm , no issue , first time i see this , im with them since several years but this not normal for me.
if you are short your TP is a buy order, meaning it will execute at the ask price.
MT4 charts are bid charts, so even if the bid price reaches your TP, depending on current spread at the time, it is likely that the ask price was still trading above your buy limit.

When trading long, your TP is a sell order, meaning you get the bid price, so if price crosses that line on your charts (bid charts) then it will execute.
the 3rd wave is the crowd's wave
  • #24,728
  • Feb 3, 2017 10:32am Feb 3, 2017 10:32am
Quoting kelvinyun
{quote} For structure analysis, i.e. determining whether a NSH or NSL has occured, always use the candle body. We need to know what structure level can the price hold on to. For order flow and drawing Fib, use the whole candle including wick. We need to know how high or low the price could go.
awesome, thanks kelvin!
  • #24,729
  • Feb 3, 2017 10:34am Feb 3, 2017 10:34am
Eur 5min

Took this trade based on 1min volume after news. I saw buyers at 50%. Out based on 1:1 ABCD Symmetrical extension. +27

SL 11 TP 27 RRR 2.45:1
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  • #24,730
  • Feb 3, 2017 1:21pm Feb 3, 2017 1:21pm
Quoting eaglestar
Eur 5min Took this trade based on 1min volume after news. I saw buyers at 50%. Out based on 1:1 ABCD Symmetrical extension. +27 SL 11 TP 27 RRR 2.45:1 {image} {image} {image}
Congrats.

I did not have time to trade today.
  • #24,731
  • Feb 3, 2017 1:32pm Feb 3, 2017 1:32pm
Quoting marwan71
{quote} Strange , it hit the take profit of ABCD , instead my broker excute my breakeven for 2 pips + and didnt excute my take profit , it hit take profit with before NFP news Spikes and after . Humm , no issue , first time i see this , im with them since several years but this not normal for me.
Especially when your TP was only passed by a wick, it can happen that it does not trigger (do not know if filled is the right word when you want to exit). Moreover, if it is in a key area, spread will increase and maybe your TP was not really hit (only by the spread).
In futures it can also happen (but not the spread part) that you not exit where you wanted, but I guess it is less frequent.
  • #24,732
  • Feb 3, 2017 3:14pm Feb 3, 2017 3:14pm
Nothing from me today. Volatility dried up before lunch. No move = no action. worked on my journal instead. have a great weekend everybody
  • #24,733
  • Feb 5, 2017 9:22am Feb 5, 2017 9:22am
Hello traders!

I made this summary... anything else i missed?

Some explanation about it, eg
1) Are we trading against expectations? If Yes, then give weightage to "Trading with Expectations".
2) Is momentum strong? If Yes, then give weightage to "Trading with Expectations"

So in the end, we can enter trades by NOT MISSING OUT any important factors.

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  • #24,734
  • Feb 6, 2017 12:40am Feb 6, 2017 12:40am
Quoting juriFX
{quote} if you are short your TP is a buy order, meaning it will execute at the ask price. MT4 charts are bid charts, so even if the bid price reaches your TP, depending on current spread at the time, it is likely that the ask price was still trading above your buy limit. When trading long, your TP is a sell order, meaning you get the bid price, so if price crosses that line on your charts (bid charts) then it will execute.
Thanks for your reply
  • #24,735
  • Feb 6, 2017 12:41am Feb 6, 2017 12:41am
Quoting evocpr19
{quote} Especially when your TP was only passed by a wick, it can happen that it does not trigger (do not know if filled is the right word when you want to exit). Moreover, if it is in a key area, spread will increase and maybe your TP was not really hit (only by the spread). In futures it can also happen (but not the spread part) that you not exit where you wanted, but I guess it is less frequent.
Thanks for your reply
  • #24,736
  • Feb 6, 2017 1:43am Feb 6, 2017 1:43am
Potential entry to short EURUSD.

1) Price was going up. The expectation was a NSH.

2) However, price entered into a complex correction.

3) And the corrective depth was nearly 100% before it rebounded up.

4) Further, the last swing (down) came in such force that it seems imminent that we could have an expectation failure.

5) Thus we got that expectation failure.

6) Now looking for short. Do not expect price to correct very far as the last swing down was forceful. (Normally after expectation failure we will get a deep correction).

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  • #24,737
  • Feb 6, 2017 8:14am Feb 6, 2017 8:14am
GM Traders, ready to get back into action. Some family matter have kept me away for a few. I will be catching up today and making the video I wanted to make last week.
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
  • #24,738
  • Feb 6, 2017 8:16am Feb 6, 2017 8:16am
Quoting Mr. Pip
GM Traders, ready to get back into action. Some family matter have kept me away for a few. I will be catching up today and making the video I wanted to make last week.
Good morning or good afternoon as it is here, im looking to get short in one the the 2 areas above,

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  • #24,739
  • Feb 6, 2017 8:25am Feb 6, 2017 8:25am
There is not much in the was of news today and the outlook is bearish today with price breaking structure to the downside. Expectation is for a NSL. Let's see how the battle plays out today.

Remember the live stream is coming up on the 21 of Feb. I want to see everyone there.
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
  • #24,740
  • Feb 6, 2017 8:37am Feb 6, 2017 8:37am
Buyers will likely defend here
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