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  • #2,481
  • Feb 3, 2017 2:25pm Feb 3, 2017 2:25pm
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
Hi guys, some long chance on eurusd Zrzut ekranu 2017-02-03 o 10.01.14.png;2170685 {image}
Nice call once again!
  • #2,482
  • Feb 3, 2017 6:41pm Feb 3, 2017 6:41pm
Hi AKT/anyone within the thread, had a loss this week, mind reviewing this trade? doing my weekly review atm, and found that the zones I've taken were valid, needed a second opinion.

Wk Uptrend
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4HR, Valid demand zone, however no strong confluence.
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welcoming all comments. Thanks!
  • #2,483
  • Feb 3, 2017 7:30pm Feb 3, 2017 7:30pm
Hi all and to you AKT I have just done analysis on Gold more for the sake of accuracy on my zones and the correctness of this zones. I found the weekly the hardest to analyse due to some congestion in the middle section of the chart. All feed back would very much appreciated. AKT I will email you to be added to the seminar lists if that's ok with you? I know you have a lot of people already attending these free seminars.
I have attached weekly , daily and 4 hr for analysis . Thank you all so much for your patience and your time.
  • #2,484
  • Feb 3, 2017 7:34pm Feb 3, 2017 7:34pm
Forgot to attach charts sorry here they are

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We only have one life make the most of it !
  • #2,485
  • Feb 4, 2017 12:19am Feb 4, 2017 12:19am
Quoting TophatTrader
welcoming all comments. Thanks! {image} {image} {image}
In a very similar situation I lost a trade in GBPUSD.
I think the answer is that you ought to notice the break of the momentum trendline, which is a divergence in an oscillator.
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  • #2,486
  • Edited 1:21am Feb 4, 2017 12:30am | Edited 1:21am
Quoting TophatTrader
welcoming all comments. Thanks! {image} {image} {image}

A second comment is that a retracement usually goes to 50% of the previous wave.
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  • #2,487
  • Feb 4, 2017 12:44am Feb 4, 2017 12:44am
Quoting TophatTrader
welcoming all comments. Thanks! {image} {image} {image}

A third comment is that the trend in D1 is DOWN.
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  • #2,488
  • Feb 4, 2017 1:59am Feb 4, 2017 1:59am
Quoting jgk
Hi all and to you AKT I have just done analysis on Gold more for the sake of accuracy on my zones and the correctness of this zones.
I am wondering if we have a weekly trendline break. In this case, a possible scenario is that the price will retrace in the supply area at 61.8 %
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  • #2,489
  • Feb 4, 2017 3:49am Feb 4, 2017 3:49am
Quoting TophatTrader
Hi AKT/anyone within the thread, had a loss this week, mind reviewing this trade? doing my weekly review atm, and found that the zones I've taken were valid, needed a second opinion. Wk Uptrend GBPJPY_W_LOSS.png;2172191 D GBPJPY_D_LOSS.png;2172193 4HR, Valid demand zone, however no strong confluence. GBPJPY_4HR_LOSS.png;2172196 welcoming all comments. Thanks! {image} {image} {image}
Hello TophatTrader.
Thank you for putting up your trade for review.
Much appreciated

here are some of my thoughts

best wishes
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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,490
  • Feb 4, 2017 4:08am Feb 4, 2017 4:08am
Quoting jgk
Forgot to attach charts sorry here they are weekly gold.jpg;2172224 Daily Gold.jpg;2172226 4 hr Gold.jpg;2172229 We only have one life make the most of it ! {image} {image} {image}
Hello jgk.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Gold.
If i may, i have some ideas for your consideration..

best wishes
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  • #2,491
  • Feb 4, 2017 4:12am Feb 4, 2017 4:12am
Quoting Elios
Quoting TophatTrader welcoming all comments. Thanks! {image} {image} {image} A second comment is that a retracement usually goes to 50% of the previous wave. {image}
Hello Elios,
Thank you for your thoughts.

It is important to note that Using fibonnacci in this way is not actually one of the core rules or application of the S.A.D methodology.
However, i know there are many traders using other methodologies who use similar rules.

For S.A.D, it is not a core consideration.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,492
  • Feb 4, 2017 4:24am Feb 4, 2017 4:24am
Quoting Elios
{quote} I am wondering if we have a weekly trendline break. In this case, a possible scenario is that the price will retrace in the supply area at 61.8 % {image}
Hello Elios.

Applying the rules within the S.A.D methodology to construct momentum lines is quite different to that shown in the chart you shared.
I have attached a chart with the rules with the methodology for constructing momentum lines.

best wishes
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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,493
  • Feb 4, 2017 4:33am Feb 4, 2017 4:33am
Quoting Elios
Quoting TophatTrader welcoming all comments. Thanks! {image} {image} {image} A third comment is that the trend in D1 is DOWN. {image}
Hello Elios,

If i may, as defined within the methodologyAs of the time Tophat trader took the trade, the trend on the daily chart was still up.
Please see the chart below for why.

best wishes
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  • #2,494
  • Feb 4, 2017 6:16am Feb 4, 2017 6:16am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Elios, It is important to note that Using fibonnacci in this way is not actually one of the core rules or application of the S.A.D methodology.....
Ok Akt I will not use fibo mesurements in my charts.
  • #2,495
  • Edited 6:53am Feb 4, 2017 6:36am | Edited 6:53am
[quote=Akt;9523231]{quote} Hello Elios. Applying the rules within the S.A.D methodology to construct momentum lines is quite different to that shown in the chart you shared.....

Dear Akt, I have written on the chart that the trend line was a weekly momentum trend line. It was not the daily momentum trend line. And the question is this :
" Do you think that the weekly momentum trend line has been broken?"
We can see the brake of the line on the D1 chart. On the W1 chart the brake is not clear.

Thank you
  • #2,496
  • Feb 4, 2017 6:47am Feb 4, 2017 6:47am
[quote=Akt;9523239]{quote} Hello Elios, If i may, as defined within the methodologyAs of the time Tophat trader took the trade, the trend on the daily chart was still up. .....

Sorry I made a mistake, the trend is up on the daily chart. The question is this "If that line is the weekly momentum trend line, can we think that it is a Resistasnce ? So the price touched the line and then retraced back.

Is this kind of thinking, a part of SAD methodology?

Thank you
  • #2,497
  • Feb 4, 2017 8:39am Feb 4, 2017 8:39am
[quote=Elios;9523366]
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Elios. Applying the rules within the S.A.D methodology to construct momentum lines is quite different to that shown in the chart you shared..... Dear Akt, I have written on the chart that the trend line was a weekly momentum trend line. It was not the daily momentum trend line. And the question is this : " Do you think that the weekly momentum trend line has been broken?" We can see the brake of the line on the D1 chart. On the W1 chart the brake is not clear. Thank you
Hello Elios.
Apologies, i missed the question being about weekly momentum.
I know TophatTrader found the weekly a bit challenging but i missed the question about a weekly trend line.
i was looking at the timeframe of your chart..

Here is the weekly...

best wishes
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  • #2,498
  • Feb 4, 2017 4:14pm Feb 4, 2017 4:14pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello TophatTrader. Thank you for putting up your trade for review. Much appreciated here are some of my thoughts best wishesgbpjpy tophat.PNG;2172473gbpjpy tophat 4hr.PNG;2172474 {image} {image}
Thanks for the Reply! and Elios's reply too! much much appreciated, it's good to know that the zones and trends were valid and accurate, just overlooked the overextended market without expecting a pullback. Thanks for your input everyone! Brushing it off, and on to the next trade!
  • #2,499
  • Feb 5, 2017 9:32pm Feb 5, 2017 9:32pm
What's up traders and Michael I am new to the thread and accidentally stumbled upon this thread trying to find a order block indicator lol. I have some forex friends who trade supply and demand but I never was interested in trading this method. I just started trading order flow and realized Supply and demand and order flow is pretty much tied in together. I have been trading a year and some months now, would of been 2 years but took 8 months off. I was losing more money then I was making so I took a break and for the past two months i have been back to conquer Forex with this methodology that Michael is teaching. I've been studying and watching your videos since Friday, I am now catching up on everything!
  • #2,500
  • Feb 5, 2017 11:02pm Feb 5, 2017 11:02pm
New to SND. let me know what you guys think
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