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  • #21
  • Dec 22, 2016 12:29am Dec 22, 2016 12:29am
Dear Adelzadeh, your entry/exit points marked on chart do not match with the rules you wrote on post # 1.

Can you please check. Thanks
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  • #22
  • Dec 22, 2016 12:37am Dec 22, 2016 12:37am
Quoting terminator12
Hi, I am using 9 EMA and 20 EMA and do good for me ,TF D1, but please explain to me clearly how ATR 14 really work , Thanks
hi
try it: https://www.tradingview.com/wiki/Ave...rue_Range_(ATR)

&
http://www.tradeciety.com/how-to-use...dicator-guide/

&

https://www.luckscout.com/how-to-use...forex-trading/

regard
what we want:1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=8 what market delivers:1+2+8+7-4+0-5+8-4-5=8
  • #23
  • Dec 22, 2016 12:55am Dec 22, 2016 12:55am
Quoting terminator12
Hi, I am using 9 EMA and 20 EMA and do good for me ,TF D1, but please explain to me clearly how ATR 14 really work , Thanks
if a pair's price makes a move or reversal, either Bullish or Bearish, there will usually be an increase in volatility. In that case, the ATR will be on the rise. This can be used as a way to gauge the underlying strength of the move. The more volatility in a large move, the more interest or pressure there is reinforcing that move.
On the other hand, during periods of sustained sideways movement, volatility is frequently low. This could assist in the discovery of trading ranges.
what we want:1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=8 what market delivers:1+2+8+7-4+0-5+8-4-5=8
  • #24
  • Dec 22, 2016 1:08am Dec 22, 2016 1:08am
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/4322
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what we want:1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=8 what market delivers:1+2+8+7-4+0-5+8-4-5=8
  • #25
  • Dec 22, 2016 1:20am Dec 22, 2016 1:20am
Quoting adelzadeh
{quote} if a pair's price makes a move or reversal, either Bullish or Bearish, there will usually be an increase in volatility. In that case, the ATR will be on the rise. This can be used as a way to gauge the underlying strength of the move. The more volatility in a large move, the more interest...
Thanks so much , Will be useful
  • #26
  • Dec 22, 2016 1:28am Dec 22, 2016 1:28am
Volatility does not say anything about the trend strength or the trend direction, but it tells you how much price fluctuates. Thus, volatility measures (un)certainty and (in)decisiveness in the markets.

Volatility = How much price fluctuates around the average price. In a high volatility environment, price candles usually have long wicks, you can see a mix of bearish and bullish candles, and their candle body is relatively small compared to the wicks.

Momentum = Momentum is the exact opposite. Momentum describes the trend strength into one direction. In a high momentum environment, you typically see only one color of candles (very few candles moving against the trend) and small candle wicks.

The screenshot below shows the differences. The ATR measures volatility, while the RSI measures momentum. Scenario (1) shows a high volatility and low momentum phase; lots of candle wicks and back and forth, but price is only going down slowly. At point (2), you mostly see white candles, almost no candle wicks; this is a low volatility and medium momentum phase. At point (3), you can almost only see red candles and very few candle wicks; this is a low volatility and high momentum phase.

Thus, the cleanest trends can be found in a low volatility and high momentum period, whereas a low momentum and high volatility time should be avoided.

http://www.tradeciety.com/how-to-use...dicator-guide/
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what we want:1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=8 what market delivers:1+2+8+7-4+0-5+8-4-5=8
  • #27
  • Dec 22, 2016 4:19pm Dec 22, 2016 4:19pm
Quoting adelzadeh
hi to all i use this metode is very profitable and you have more chance with this metod and can catch big move on market metod is very simple using: simple moving average 200 + simple moving average 55 + simple moving average when sma5 cut sma200 we take position and when sma5 cut sma55 we close position. if trend again move on direction of the trend we can again enter when sma5 cut sma55 and exit when sma55 cut sma 5 good luck {image}
1 Why do you enter here? The 5 sma cut the 55 sma not the 200.
2 Why not long here? 5 sma cut the 200 sma.
3 After your exit, ther is a cut back upwards, when you antered at 1 point why not re-enter here?
4 There is a cut too, not noticable but is there. Why not enter there, like at 1 point?
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  • #28
  • Dec 22, 2016 4:27pm Dec 22, 2016 4:27pm
There is a MA crossover indicator. Whan you attach it to the chart you will see, how many false signal are there. Pur MA-crossower dont work I think. It need PA, or some HTF rules to see where the price is going.
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  • #29
  • Dec 22, 2016 11:28pm Dec 22, 2016 11:28pm
adelzadeh , What the difference between ATR and ADX , Seems ADX mor popular ,
  • #30
  • Edited 1:22am Dec 23, 2016 12:14am | Edited 1:22am
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adelzadeh, Why it wont work when i click on symbol but work on TF ,
  • #31
  • Dec 23, 2016 1:50am Dec 23, 2016 1:50am
Quoting terminator12
adelzadeh , What the difference between ATR and ADX , Seems ADX mor popular ,
ATR is the average true range. You can see the average move in the adjusted period.

ADX average directional index. Whit this indicator you can determine when the pair is trending and when is in sideways. (do lag of course)
  • #32
  • Dec 23, 2016 3:08am Dec 23, 2016 3:08am
Quoting Beertje
{quote} ATR is the average true range. You can see the average move in the adjusted period. ADX average directional index. Whit this indicator you can determine when the pair is trending and when is in sideways. (do lag of course)
Beertjie , Means ATR is more accurate , Will change from ADX to ATR , Thanks
  • #33
  • Dec 23, 2016 3:23am Dec 23, 2016 3:23am
Quoting terminator12
adelzadeh , What the difference between ATR and ADX , Seems ADX mor popular ,
ATR is a Volatility indicator

ADX is a Momentum indicator

see here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...08#post9372908

cleanest trends can be found in a low volatility and high momentum period, whereas a low momentum and high volatility time should be avoided.

regard
what we want:1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=8 what market delivers:1+2+8+7-4+0-5+8-4-5=8
  • #34
  • Dec 23, 2016 6:48am Dec 23, 2016 6:48am
Quoting terminator12
{image} adelzadeh, Why it wont work when i click on symbol but work on TF ,
un check this one
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what we want:1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=8 what market delivers:1+2+8+7-4+0-5+8-4-5=8
  • #35
  • Dec 23, 2016 1:50pm Dec 23, 2016 1:50pm
Quoting adelzadeh
{quote} un check this one {image}
adelzadeh, I put in suffix , All is fine thanks
  • #36
  • Dec 25, 2016 10:11am Dec 25, 2016 10:11am
adelzadeh, Which is better for long term trading is Daily or weekly , Please ,
  • #37
  • Dec 25, 2016 11:42am Dec 25, 2016 11:42am
Quoting terminator12
adelzadeh, Which is better for long term trading is Daily or weekly , Please ,
i use D1 / H4 / H1 for finding strong trend and take position ON M1
what we want:1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=8 what market delivers:1+2+8+7-4+0-5+8-4-5=8
  • #38
  • Edited Dec 26, 2016 7:18am Dec 25, 2016 2:49pm | Edited Dec 26, 2016 7:18am
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Does anyone here have time to backtest this system? If so, I have drafted an EA that can be used for back-testing and forward testing.
The EA is written in MT5 - which can be downloaded from MQL5.com for free.
It can place LIVE orders ... so don't try it on your live account.
Feel free to change the EA if you think I have mis-interpreted the rules.
More importantly, please share your findings.
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  • #39
  • Dec 26, 2016 4:05am Dec 26, 2016 4:05am
adelzadeh, Do u use stop loss or not , And after 1st entry , when go for 2nd and 3rd entry so on , Please
  • #40
  • Dec 26, 2016 8:53am Dec 26, 2016 8:53am
This seems like a very reasonable, simple strategy. I will try this out as it seems pretty similar to the MA cross I have been trying to crack for the last few months.

I am using the UniversalMAcross EA by firedave, and you can adjust the setting somewhat to match your rules. It's not exact, but the main cross orders are opened as described.

The only problem is, I just backtested on a few pairs using the rules here, and the code still needs some work. The original coder said he was too busy to try and modify the script to how I see it, but maybe someone else can give it a try, or add anything else they see fit. I believe adding the option to close orders on the 3rd MA cross (ExitOn3MAcross) would greatly benefit the program, and could then also be used for the 5-55-200 crosses. I tried adding the lines at 314 (ExitOn3MAcross) but it didn't work, as my coding skills are very novice and I don't know what it would take to operate that function correctly.

Let's see if anyone else can figure it out. I have found some amazing settings to use but they always fall short at some point due to the improper exits.
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