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  •  mizi123
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{quote} Hi, it is okay when you take previous d1 candle for signal, but there is a problem when you take the same hour m15 as a signal, i.e. 4am and 6am, that means that you take 4:15am but 4am candle is not closed yet and it may be green at 5am i hope i make it clear to understand
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Surad bro these was my idea see hou much time and information i have all these in black quadrat. Even if the pair is not in good position see egzosted candles started to appere around 50 level of fibo and i will wait nou droping to see for these 1H red candles
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{quote} you didn't understand me, it was not about Asian time in your charts, you take previous D1 candle, then you say step down to H1, but you take M15 on the same hour, i.e. 12:00 H1 candle is not closed and it may be green but you take M15 at 12:00 also or you do not consider to wait for H1 candle close?
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Ouuu soory nope i wait to that 1H end after that in first 15 min of next hour i take a decision awesome indi do good job in these way i wait allsaw for him to turn on direction that i want... Soory 1 again.
 
 
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  •  mizi123
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These id good example see red line is last hour momentum has start to weacken but what i need is the Awesome Oschillator to start repeaint red lines on negativ teritory after that i will start to look for short. Is not so hard just return behind the pc after every 1H finish and se the situation in 15 min
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Hi everyone, so please correct me if I am wrong, basically we would apply top-down analysis from D1 to H1 and even lower . This reminds me of a system named "Ribbon system" that was introduced by a certain Raj on another forum and then re-appearing here: http://forums.babypips.com/free-fore...on-system.html
It is quite close to Bk8's system and we could easily adapt to SMA5 (close or typical price H/L/C:3 doesn't change much on 5 periods).
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure...
 
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Hi everyone, so please correct me if I am wrong, basically we would apply top-down analysis from D1 to H1 and even lower . This reminds me of a system named "Ribbon system" that was introduced by a certain Raj on another forum and then re-appearing here: http://forums.babypips.com/free-fore...on-system.html It is quite close to Bk8's system and we could easily adapt to SMA5 (close or typical price H/L/C:3 doesn't change...
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Yes Bro you are on the right track but still need to make change or adapt to some bones to puzzle be complete im watching dragon (GBP/JPY) close after that i will attach my trade normally if condition have mate to enter (y)
 
 
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I have entered on NU because i have feel safty there my entry was with 20 pips SL market have respected my choise and now i em on breakeven +3pips and im enjoying the show until that daily range fulfilled
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Hi!
GBPJPY, H1
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I used Briar Navigator 1.2.5
 
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{quote} Look's interesting in H1 but what about entry and exit rules you have any criteria bro?
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Simple strategy: MA with parameter 1 (=price close) cross MA with parameter 5 or another, use both short and long, trade on the level of the next bar open.
 
 
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Hi! GBPJPY, H1 Profit curve with SMA5: {image} Profit curve with SMA16: {image} GBPJPY, D1 Profit curve with SMA5: {image} Profit curve with SMA8: {image} I used Briar Navigator 1.2.5
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hi Bull,

I don't understand, what is this strategy? how to draw like yours? thanks.

cheers,
Andree
 
 
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  •  Oddbjorg
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Hello
As the pairs are behaving I don't have the overview. Seems a bit cloudy for me. I am too green. So, I think I will pack for Christmass.
Have a nice Christmass everybody.
Thank you.
Oddbjrg
All the best to all of you. But don't follow me. I am a learner.
 
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{quote} Really, can you please send me any link? I have 3 fxcm accounts. Thanks for sharing this info.
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You should have recieved a Rate Card email from them. I can forward you the email if you want. Send me your info in a message and I'll get it to you. It applies to all clients whose balance isnt above 4000. That includes the margin on the trades your in as well so you need more than juat 4000 to meet the requirments. Its BS.
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Long USDJPY and short GBPCAD anyone?
 
 
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{quote} U/C 120 pips profit N/U 180 pips profit E/N 12 pips profit A/J 90 pips profit E/A 15 pips profit N/J 80 pips profit There are so many JPY setups except CHF/JPY but as mizi123 mentioned that it could be risky due to tonight's red news. We can try some if market goes in same direction after red news.
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All previous setups except E/N are closed with + pips.

Todays Setups

Long AUD/NZD (Weak Setup, chances 60%)
Short EUR/CAD (chances 70%)
 
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Long USDJPY and short GBPCAD anyone?
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None of the two.
I'm jumping back into AUD/JPY.
 
 
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{quote} All previous setups except E/N are closed with + pips. Todays Setups Long AUD/NZD (Weak Setup, chances 60%) Short EUR/CAD (chances 70%)
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EUR/CAD still looks sideways to me.
 
 
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Long USDJPY and short GBPCAD anyone?
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Once USD/JPY hits resistence
 
 
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{quote} EUR/CAD still looks sideways to me.
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The trades there, just need to wait. If 50MA and 100MA start to make there way down, then sell.
 
 
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Open to new ideas over here about any USD or EUR pair
 
 
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Intresting ......
Intuition In Trading And Investing: Can You Trust It?
Intuition In Trading And Investing: Can You Trust It?
This is a Guest Post by Alex @MacroOps which was originally posted HERE.
Do you ever get that feeling that a certain trade will be huge? That you should size up on it and go for the jugular? You can’t exactly describe why this trade is the “one”, but you can definitely feel it.
This feeling is what we call intuition.
Now the question is… should you trust your intuition? Or is it just another feeling the market will abuse? Let’s find out.
The Barking Up The Wrong Tree blog has a great article on intuition in which they introduce researcher Gary Klein. Klein has studied the use of intuition for over 30 years in various occupations from chess masters to firefighters. He’s worked with the US military to develop decision making programs for soldiers and even led the team that redesigned the White House Situation Room. He’s also written various books on intuition including The Power of Intuition: How to Use Your Gut Feelings to Make Better Decisions at Work and Streetlights and Shadows: Searching for the Keys to Adaptive Decision Making.
Mr. Klein will be helping us further explore the use of market intuition.
To start with a simple definition: intuition is derived from the patterns you unconsciously notice in a particular field of study. Over time you begin to automatically see that particular combinations of inputs produce certain outputs. In the case of intuition, these aren’t overtly definable patterns, but are instead processed in the subconscious mind.
From Klein:
A “pattern” is a set of cues that usually chunk together so that if you see a few of the cues you can expect to find the others. When you notice a pattern you may have a sense of familiarity— yes, I’ve seen that before! As we work in any area, we accumulate experiences and build up a reservoir of recognized patterns. The more patterns we learn, the easier it is to match a new situation to one of the patterns in our reservoir. When a new situation occurs, we recognize the situation as familiar by matching it to a pattern we have encountered in the past.
The big benefit of intuitive thinking is its clarity and speed. There’s no getting bogged down in painstaking logical analysis with multiple, closely managed steps. Intuition is quick and easy. Get a feeling and go with it. But is this effective?
It absolutelyis effective when it comes to complex systems.
Consider the market. It consists of billions upon billions of transactions, all distilled into market prices moving either up or down. The complexity created by these countless interactions is infinite. It’s impossible to make a fully defined list of steps to analyze it.
This is not to say that some defined steps won’t help, but they will never take you all the way. You can’t logically work through every aspect of the market to come to a perfect decision.
We’re playing a game of incomplete information when it comes to trading and investing. At most you can know maybe 60% of what’s going on in a certain situation. You then have to make an educated bet on which way price will move based off that knowledge.
Good luck using purely logical-based decision making systems in this type of environment. You’re gonna need some intuition.
Klein again (emphasis ours):
The reality is that the classical model of decision making doesn’t work very well in practice. It works tolerably well in the research labs which use undergraduate test subjects making trivial decisions, but it doesn’t do so well in the real world, where decisions are more challenging, situations are more confusing and complex, information is scarce or inconclusive, time is short, and stakes are high. And in that environment, the classical, analytical model of decision making falls flat… Considering all these drawbacks, it’s not surprising that decision researchers haven’t been able to demonstrate that analytical methods actually help people make better decisions.
So logical decision making fails in confusing and complex situations? With scarce or inconclusive information? Where there are high stakes with little time? Sound familiar to anyone…?
*Cough* Markets *Cough*
Now consider the brain, another infinitely complex system. Is it possible to logically list every conscious and subconscious process that leads to a particular feeling or intuition? Of course not.
But remember, your brain is a complex system analyzing another complex system — the market. There’s a lot of things going on inside our heads behind the scenes that we don’t know about. It would be foolish to ignore the results of this complex analysis.
In fact, there are studies that prove there are negative effects from ignoring your intuition and pigeonholing yourself to strictly logical analysis.
Klein:
There are data showing that when people ignore intuition, decision quality goes down. It also goes down when people are instructed to use decision analysis. Decisions are made subconsciously before people even start to perform the analyses, and the very act of articulating the factors can make decisions less reliable. The evidence is growing that those who do not or cannot trust their intuitions are less effective decision makers, and that as long as they reject their intuitions, they are destined to remain so.
Trying to prevent intuition can many times lead to destructive overthinking. Take Klein’s radiologist example:
Radiologists worry about overthinking. If they look at a film too long, they start seeing things that aren’t there. After about 38 seconds, they begin to overreact to slight irregularities in normal structures and identify non-existent malformations.
It’s just like charting in the markets. If you can’t immediately see a pattern when flipping through your screens, it’s likely not there. Studying a single chart for too long will lead to overthinking and the creation of imaginary patterns. Your initial reaction to a chart is usually best.
Now a logical decision making process does have its uses, especially in defined situations. Klein explains that “systematic analysis may work for well-ordered tasks”.
But again, with complex systems, intuition is a must.
So yes, intuition is a crucial tool in trading and investing. But that still leaves the question… should you trust your own intuition?
And here’s where we get the HUGE caveat that comes with trusting intuition in trading and investing: you need to be experienced in the markets to use your intuition successfully.
If you’re a beginning trader, whatever feelings you have will likely lead you into red. You can’t trust them.
Intuition works because the user has a deluge of experiences to draw from. Returning to Klein: “As we work in any area, we accumulate experiences and build up a reservoir of recognized patterns. The more patterns we learn, the easier it is to match a new situation to one of the patterns in our reservoir.”
Market experience comes from years of being in the trenches. It comes from dedicated practice, day in and day out, taking hits, getting back up, and getting hit again. It’s not something that just happens.
That’s why as a beginner you’re better off trading a strict system or set of rules. At that stage, a logical system will help protect you from your “intuitions” that most likely belong under the greed, fear, and hope categories of emotions instead.
But over time, as you gain more experience, you’ll be able to add intuition on top of your logical system.
And that’s what we recommend to all traders when it comes to the intersection of intuition and logical/rational decision making in trading and investing.
Combine them.
Have a basic structure or strategy with a set of rules you generally follow. This will be your logical decision making base that will keep you aligned and disciplined. It will include key aspects like strict risk management that will keep you from blowing up.
But also understand that markets are infinitely complex with partial information, which means logical decision making won’t carry you the whole way. You’ll need to develop experience and with that experience, intuition. Know that you won’t be able to rationally define your intuition, but that you can still use it to enhance your trading. Trust the complex system you have chugging along inside your head to analyze the complex market.
This is what the greatest traders of all time do.
Take Peter L. Brandt (PLB) for example, a purely technical trader that our team has studied over the years. He uses a logical system as a base. The system includes specific rules such as restricting entries to classical charting patterns and sizing positions up and down depending on those patterns’ characteristics. These are rules that can be defined.
But what PLB can’t define, and what also seems to launch his performance from good to extraordinary, is all the finessing he does around these rules. The slightly early entry here, the sudden exit there… these seemingly random adjustments he makes are based off his feelings a.k.a. his intuition. Oftentimes PLB will admit that he doesn’t know exactly why he’s taking a certain action, but that it feels like the right thing to do. His intuition developed from decades of trading have helped him create over 40% compounded returns throughout his 40 year trading career.
You can follow PLB’s rules based strategy but you can’t replicate his intuition. That is what every trader needs to develop for themselves.
There are countless stories of the best traders getting feelings about the market and acting upon them. Whether it’s a dream the night before that makes a trader want to go long, or some back pain (as in George Soros’ case) that makes the trader want to exit, intuition helps them navigate the markets.
Another example is Market Wizard Michael Marcus. Marcus once said that “Gut feel is very important. I don’t know of any great professional trader that doesn’t have it.”
That gut feel is intuition.
In his Market Wizards interview, Marcus explained how he would take a lot of trades just to keep him entertained, even though he knew only a few trades that met his specific criteria would be the big winners. The big winners would have to have fundamentals, technicals, and market tone all going for them.
Marcus likely had some defined rules for his criteria, but a lot of it was feel or intuition as well. Try developing strict rules to measure something like market tone…it’s very tough.
Marcus would size up on these particular trades:
“… when a trade met all my criteria, I would enter five to six times the position size I was doing on the other trades.”
He had a basic system, but would use his intuition to know when to strike hard. And that’s how he turned $30,000 into $80 million over a 20 year period.
Remember what Albert Einstein said:
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
Don’t forget your gift of intuition when it comes to the markets. Use it. But make sure it’s credible intuition developed through lots of experience. Make sure it’s more than a feeling…
If you want to learn more about how to layer intuition on top of a logical trading strategy to earn superior returns, then check out the Macro Ops Handbook here.
For more posts and information about Alex @MacroOps you can check out his website Macro-Ops.com. This post was used with permission and originally appeared as Intuition In Trading And Investing: Can You Trust It?
 
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