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  • Dec 9, 2016 1:57am Dec 9, 2016 1:57am
  •  Baymax07
  • Joined Jan 2015 | Status: Member | 98 Posts
Little scalp on GJ. Achieved 5R so far.
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  •  juriFX
  • Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Think in terms of frequency | 341 Posts
Took this trade also for other reasons (FL and eng) but what made this a good entry was also the QM alignment.
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ps. the first try at the higher level failed but took enough at 1R to cover for a stop, price really wanted the lower obvious QM...
the 3rd wave is the crowd's wave
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  • Dec 9, 2016 9:49am Dec 9, 2016 9:49am
  •  Baymax07
  • Joined Jan 2015 | Status: Member | 98 Posts
Quoting juriFX
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Took this trade also for other reasons (FL and eng) but what made this a good entry was also the QM alignment. {image} ps. the first try at the higher level failed but took enough at 1R to cover for a stop, price really wanted the lower obvious QM...
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I had the same trade but my SL was about 15 pips at the LL. I think you had a pretty small SL to make it a 13 R trade. What was the idea behind your SL placement?
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  • Dec 9, 2016 10:55am Dec 9, 2016 10:55am
  •  juriFX
  • Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Think in terms of frequency | 341 Posts
Quoting Baymax07
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{quote} I had the same trade but my SL was about 15 pips at the LL. I think you had a pretty small SL to make it a 13 R trade. What was the idea behind your SL placement?
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Hi Baymax07, the idea behind it was a swapped flag limit (FL) aligned with a QM level.
There's symmetry in the market and if you have a good nested level with unfilled orders aligned with a higher time frame QM, many times price bounces from the level.

This goes beyond this thread but, since you asked, I'm posting the trade progression (reason for the trades):
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My first try
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  • Dec 9, 2016 11:03am Dec 9, 2016 11:03am
  •  juriFX
  • Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Think in terms of frequency | 341 Posts
BTW why did AUDUSD turn there?

Past QM
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LTF QM PA
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  • Dec 9, 2016 11:15am Dec 9, 2016 11:15am
  •  sam69
  • Joined Aug 2009 | Status: Just trade it! | 1,230 Posts
hey masters, how about this entry,is it a right qm?
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  •  batus
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dealing with the risk :

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  • Dec 9, 2016 1:44pm Dec 9, 2016 1:44pm
  •  juriFX
  • Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Think in terms of frequency | 341 Posts
Hi batus, this is my view on how to reduce drastically the risk in such cases:
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Of course the SL above is safer, but usually these are good for a bounce.
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  •  batus
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Hi batus, this is my view on how to reduce drastically the risk in such cases: {image} Of course the SL above is safer, but usually these are good for a bounce.
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Thank you juriFX, appreciate for your input. Very nice when we understand a bit more about what price actually do.

I just enhanced more to the rules that thread starter (Mr Quidsey) elaborate on the first page & to make it more effective, i found that HHLL is most significant to what actually Mr Quidsey method. Engulfed is one of the rules that i found to validate a HHLL thats indicate the difference from normal HNS pattern.
For a simple entry & exit rules, i come out with the idea as chart below.

Again, thanks for your input & hope you will describe more.

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  • Dec 9, 2016 5:05pm Dec 9, 2016 5:05pm
  •  awcharts
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Hi all,
still learning this pattern.
Please comment, when we say engulfed, is it like the chart here where area 2 PA movement down engulfs area 1 flag area? or is it area 4 engulfing the 3 the L area. thx.
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  • Dec 9, 2016 9:52pm Dec 9, 2016 9:52pm
  •  batus
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Hi all, still learning this pattern. Please comment, when we say engulfed, is it like the chart here where area 2 PA movement down engulfs area 1 flag area? or is it area 4 engulfing the 3 the L area. thx. {image}
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It's area 4 engulfing the 3 the L area:
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  • Dec 9, 2016 10:11pm Dec 9, 2016 10:11pm
  •  awcharts
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{quote} It's area 4 engulfing the 3 the L area: {image}
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thanks!
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  • Dec 10, 2016 1:33pm Dec 10, 2016 1:33pm
  •  starlimit
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Quoting juriFX
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Hi batus, this is my view on how to reduce drastically the risk in such cases: {image} Of course the SL above is safer, but usually these are good for a bounce.
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Hi Everyone

I have been reading this thread for a while but cant seem to locate where QM rules were defined. Can someone point me to the Post where the rules for QM where defined.. Thanks
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  • Dec 11, 2016 2:31am Dec 11, 2016 2:31am
  •  BroX
  • | Joined May 2016 | Status: Member | 114 Posts
Hi Everyone

I have been trading for more than a year. But still did not earn anyhing. I think the reason is that i can't concentrate on 1 method. I am trying to learn everything. Now I will trade only QM pattern. I think it's a great thread.
Want to share one trade.
What do you think about this trade? Do i need close position on first target? Or wait for next one? ( Lower low )
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  • Dec 11, 2016 8:05pm Dec 11, 2016 8:05pm
  •  piptalk
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QM setup GPBCHF 30 min,,,20 pip stop....40 TP BE at +20 if we get there
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  • Dec 12, 2016 1:55am Dec 12, 2016 1:55am
  •  websmith
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  • Dec 12, 2016 2:41am Dec 12, 2016 2:41am
  •  Baymax07
  • Joined Jan 2015 | Status: Member | 98 Posts
Long on DOW M1
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  • Dec 12, 2016 4:19am Dec 12, 2016 4:19am
  •  Riley
  • | Joined Oct 2011 | Status: Keep a Lookout! | 116 Posts
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{image}
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Update...
Closed at TP and I'm getting the hang of this setup.
Cheers!
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  • Dec 12, 2016 6:44am Dec 12, 2016 6:44am
  •  juriFX
  • Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Think in terms of frequency | 341 Posts
EURJPY
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Trading pin bars the right way
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  • Edited at 7:58am Dec 12, 2016 6:48am | Edited at 7:58am
  •  juriFX
  • Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Think in terms of frequency | 341 Posts
USDCAD 15m pins entry
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EDIT: 2nd half at tp (6.5R)
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