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  • #101
  • Jul 19, 2016 7:40am Jul 19, 2016 7:40am
Quoting BaskurtAi
many trades start with demo and in a small period of time they atchieve success and believe that they are ready for real trading. Demo is good but it cannot be a guaranty of your success. And I think that making trading the only one sourse of income isn't the best idea. Well, mb I am just not so skilled, but I think I will never leave my work, even if I will have stable income from forex
I literally cannot comprehend your post. Its just FF tropes and cliches stitched together with bad English.
  • #102
  • Jul 19, 2016 11:33am Jul 19, 2016 11:33am
Quoting Atokys
{quote} No, it doesn't.
Then you have confused me.
  • #103
  • Jul 19, 2016 3:48pm Jul 19, 2016 3:48pm
After many years Ive worked out how to make a profit now its just about trade repeat and keep going
  • #104
  • Jul 20, 2016 5:05am Jul 20, 2016 5:05am
Quoting Atokys
{quote} I literally cannot comprehend your post. Its just FF tropes and cliches stitched together with bad English.
sorry for my bad English, it's not my native language, I am from Istanbul. I just said that demo account cannot prepare trader to real trading. yes, it's maybe cliche already, but I just expressed my opinion about it. I know there are traders that trade on demo for 1, 2 or even 3 years. I thinks it's just waste of time.
  • #105
  • Jul 20, 2016 7:53am Jul 20, 2016 7:53am
Quoting Atomic_Sheep
Then you have confused me.
There are people who were competent from the start of their careers as money managers.

Your demo account exploits do not count you as one of them.

Not that confusing.
  • #106
  • Jul 20, 2016 8:01am Jul 20, 2016 8:01am
Quoting BaskurtAi
{quote} sorry for my bad English, it's not my native language, I am from Istanbul. I just said that demo account cannot prepare trader to real trading. yes, it's maybe cliche already, but I just expressed my opinion about it. I know there are traders that trade on demo for 1, 2 or even 3 years. I thinks it's just waste of time.
I apologise for my harshness.

I agree with you.

Demo accounts are great for getting used to a broker's platform. Apart from this it falls short of its purported usefulness. If you are testing a trading system then historical simulations are more than sufficient to emulate conditions that match or are more adverse than live market conditions.
  • #107
  • Oct 24, 2016 9:03am Oct 24, 2016 9:03am
If you really believe in what you're doing, which is trading Forex, you'll have to work hard in it. If you haven't made it base on losses, do not take it personally and if one trading method doesn't work, try a different route, find another method. Giving up is never an option for successful traders.
  • #108
  • Oct 24, 2016 1:23pm Oct 24, 2016 1:23pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Gravitist is right. Most here won't make it. They will blow account after account because they did not learn price action and they do some insane thing like putting all of their leverage on one trade. Or having a five pip stop. Or trading the MXNUSD. Or trading 28 pairs on the M5 charts. Or trading 28 pairs at all. Or going long EURUSD and short USDCHF at the same time. Or....well you get the point. They will try system after system because they take losses by using technical stops. Some are compulsive gamblers and therefore take trades...
EXACTLY! gravitist think than if HE failed, then EVERYONE else will!
  • #109
  • Oct 24, 2016 9:54pm Oct 24, 2016 9:54pm
Quoting GPips
At age 5 his Dad died. At age 16 he quit school. At age 17 had already lost 4 jobs. At age 18 he got married. Between ages 18 and 22, he was a railroad worker and failed. He joined the army and failed He applied for law school, was rejected He became a sales man and failed At age 19 he became a father. At age 20 his wife left him and took their baby He became a cook in a small cafe He failed in an attempt to kidnap his own daughter At age 65 he received a welfare cheque for $107 He felt like the government suggested he couldn't provide for himself....
The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.

Can't say that its true because I haven't experienced it myself. But it sure is enough to keep me going.
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  • #110
  • Oct 24, 2016 10:09pm Oct 24, 2016 10:09pm
Quoting Piquant
{quote} The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed. Can't say that its true because I haven't experienced it myself. But it sure is enough to keep me going.
That post was literally awesome, and I think its true aswell. ForexFactory should make ''Post Of The Day'' in the headline or something.
  • #111
  • Oct 24, 2016 10:14pm Oct 24, 2016 10:14pm
"The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed."

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  • #112
  • Oct 24, 2016 10:21pm Oct 24, 2016 10:21pm
Quoting Noorx
{quote} That post was literally awesome, and I think its true aswell. ForexFactory should make ''Post Of The Day'' in the headline or something.
Agreed !
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  • #113
  • Oct 24, 2016 10:26pm Oct 24, 2016 10:26pm
Quoting gravitist
Unfortunately, the vast majority of people at FF will never make it. They will blow account after account, try system after system. Some are just compulsive gamblers - they trade forex because it's so accessible, and thus satisfies their gambling addiction. Some are just naive, not realizing that fx is the most rigged market on earth - less than 10 big banks control about 77% of the market and small retail traders have zero access to any order flow data. Those traders might do better with futures than fx, but they'll probably lose there too. I came...

Spoken like a true loser...
  • #114
  • Oct 24, 2016 10:32pm Oct 24, 2016 10:32pm
Quoting VaBikePacker
{quote} Would you just go play in traffic on a high speed interstate and take Mingray with you? Or...maybe just find a pink room loaded with flowers and plenty of tissues to contain your needless whining?

Thank you... Ya that guy is a true f'in loser. He lost more money then he was supposed to and now he his trying to take it out on the rest of us. Look "Gravitist" just because you couldn't figure it out and you washed out doesn't mean that there are some of us who can be successful. Your like the rest of these kids these days, when something gets a little hard you through your hands up and whine your ass off about it instead of pushing forward.
  • #115
  • Oct 24, 2016 10:43pm Oct 24, 2016 10:43pm
Quoting danmo68
{quote} Thank you... Ya that guy is a true f'in loser. He lost more money then he was supposed to and now he his trying to take it out on the rest of us. Look "Gravitist" just because you couldn't figure it out and you washed out doesn't mean that there are some of us who can be successful. Your like the rest of these kids these days, when something gets a little hard you through your hands up and whine your ass off about it instead of pushing forward.
That's what I'm telling myself all the time wherever ''gravitist'' makes a post about his failures all around this Forum.

I'm getting sick of him, he's like Mingary. God.
  • #116
  • Oct 25, 2016 8:16am Oct 25, 2016 8:16am
Quoting Noorx
{quote} That's what I'm telling myself all the time wherever ''gravitist'' makes a post about his failures all around this Forum. I'm getting sick of him, he's like Mingary. God.
Ya its this type of person who must distribute their failures in order to mitigate its impact on themselves. Just take them for what they are... f'in losers.

It's to bad the admins wont just ban them. And I am not arguing banning people who are not like minded. I am arguing banning someone who doesn't bring ANYTHING to the forum besides negativity. Its not like he is bringing on opposing view, its just his defeatist, Ill just roll over and let you stick it in without any resistance, attitude.
  • #117
  • Oct 25, 2016 9:34am Oct 25, 2016 9:34am
Quoting Noorx
{quote} That's what I'm telling myself all the time wherever ''gravitist'' makes a post about his failures all around this Forum. I'm getting sick of him, he's like Mingary. God.
I love people like them because they say what I think to some degree as well. they actually give me a chance to better analyze my own expectations and be more realistic, I need that too. So long life to Ming and Grav lol
  • #118
  • Oct 25, 2016 9:50am Oct 25, 2016 9:50am
Quoting HeyYou
{quote} I love people like them because they say what I think to some degree as well. they actually give me a chance to better analyze my own expectations and be more realistic, I need that too. So long life to Ming and Grav lol
I admire your ability to be objective in the face of such pathetic defeatism.
  • #119
  • Oct 25, 2016 10:12am Oct 25, 2016 10:12am
Quoting danmo68
{quote} I admire your ability to be objective in the face of such pathetic defeatism.
Oh yeah it's unbelievable what people can do with their lives.
  • #120
  • Oct 13, 2017 7:05am Oct 13, 2017 7:05am
Quoting cat
This may seem like a pretty inane question, but I think it might provide some interesting answers which could be useful for one or two people. And don't be afraid of admitting that you're still struggling to master this business, because most of us are. By made it, I mean the ability to support yourself and perhaps your family from trading alone. As an afterthought, let's explore the other side of the coin as well. If you have made it, how did you do it when so many never do?
Hi i will tell you my story here,I started trading back in june 2013 and had some beginners luck as well but i had little skills to spot the price movements like accumulation,distribution.etc. in which from that i made some profits but i wanted to know something more which was actually going on within these markets.For the last 4 years i have tried several trading systems,indicators,Breakout strategies,bollinger bands.etc and from what i observed all these indicators or so called black box systems were not able to predict the price in a way i thought or even by following the 'rules given in the manual of that system'.or in any way i think [it cannot] do it.so now comes a question that i had in my mind after 3 years of analysing price behaviour of several instruments.i found that no matter what chart you look at or what currency you LOOK or what timeframe you look at every instrument 'freely traded instrument' moved almost in a similar manner.so than something striked in my mind and i removed every indicators and systems from my chart and started studying only price,which i never did before.and after looking at the bigger picture something caught my eyes,its like how the owl sees its prey in the dark.THAN I MADE IT.so my advice for those who are newbies. is try to see markets in a different way than the crowd.IN SHORT see what others are ignoring.
No one ever Discovered anything new by colouring inside the lines.
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