DislikedNo single market access? We'll halve Corporation tax to 10%! Ha, up yours Juncker. That is about 1/3 of what it is in France, Germany and Italy. Even lower than Ireland. We'd get flooded with businesses moving here! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3865430/Corporation-tax-HALVED-Brussels-blocks-free-trade-deal-Downing-Street-plans-cut-rate-10-nuclear-option.htmlIgnored
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- Oct 24, 2016 6:33am Oct 24, 2016 6:33am
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https://youtu.be/4MUaf0pNNJ4 https://youtu.be/A-EgyUcHSSQ https://youtu.be/pCp4Yb8NaxA
Actually this: http://london.skiandsnowboard.co.uk/ Yay, I'll be there!!
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- Edited 7:41am Oct 24, 2016 7:24am | Edited 7:41am
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- #605
- Oct 24, 2016 7:36am Oct 24, 2016 7:36am
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{quote} Summertime? You're having a laugh, right? Have you any idea what it's like in the UK heading into November?
Oh I forget sometimes. It is summer here all year round. Today was a beautiful warm summer rain, gently falling, falling, falling, into a velvet trace of wandering meditations of forgotten star crossed lovers lament. Still, it was warm as a comfort could afford knowing others in the world get ready for and bracing of the oncoming of winter. Are the squirrels seen? Are they scurrying for the seasons last forage? These could remind us of what needs to be done before mother Earth goes into a spell of blissful sleep.
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- Oct 24, 2016 7:49am Oct 24, 2016 7:49am
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I believe airlines should weigh both passenger and luggage combined!And if more than 1 seat is needed, then you pay for 2 (or more). That means weighing and measuring at check in. No more spillage! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3865262/Airline-s-weigh-passengers-Hawaiian-carrier-wins-legal-battle-check-certain-routes-spread-weight-evenly-avoid-crash-landings.html
...and helium-filled push-ups....?
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
- #607
- Oct 24, 2016 8:02am Oct 24, 2016 8:02am
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I def prefer you italics for quoting, so I'm going to copy that
I already know that aspect on how to calculate, I just want to know where you got the actual Fed Deficit figure.
The figures I got were from ycharts, but there are plenty of other sites. The 2% figure was for 2015, I understand it is expected to be closer to 3% this year.
Well no matter how you want to slice it is still using futures to mortgage a debt in a round about way it is still the same. We still need to pay off the debt and we still need to print money at some point. It simply doesn't float into space somewhere to eventually be used on a rainy when that debt is called in at a later time or simply wishing away to become dead. It is always there. The same with the 2008 bank bail out, in which the US tax payer is burdened with having to pay that as well.
Of course it needs to be paid down. But the US can run a deficit of 2% for the next 30 years, and the debt to GDP would almost certainly be lower.
The debt problem in American is not terminal.
I am not defending it, but merely pointing that it has happened before in the early 70's where the supply did not meet the demand and there was for a certain period of time a energy crisis relating to Oil and gas.
That's OK. So long as we know the point made about OPEC fixing the price to an affordable level is a stupid on.
The dollar being backed by the US government is not a monetary insurance such as gold as being a quantifiable substance ofequal value. So yes I am correct in saying that the US dollar is essentially back by nothing and created out out of thin Air. As far as the Yuan being backed by gold it practically already is come on! That has been China's plan all along as they also seek to replace the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency.
http://goldsilverworlds.com/gold-sil...cked-renminbi/ (http://goldsilverworlds.com/gold-silver-insights/does-china-plan-a-gold-backed-renminbi/)
It is backed, in good or bad faith, by the American government. I understand that you are saying it isn't convertible to say a gold, but to say it is not backed by anything is wrong.
And the yuan still isn't 'backed' by gold. That is a 2012 article, saying they think the Chinese might at some point in the future want to revert to some kind of gold standard.That is not evidence of a gold standard for the yuan. I don't think the Chinese will ever give up the ability to manipulate their currency by pegging to a gold standard, I'm going to stick my neck out and say that won't happen. And in any event, are people really going to trust Chicom to convert their yuan to gold? I know I wouldn't trust a completely unaccountably communist dictatorship to covert my yuan to gold.
First of all I never said that US forces or Haliburton went into Iraq for oil. Never did I say that, and I suggest you reread what I wrote. Further more, we never even ended up with a drop of Iraq's oil. What I do know is that many contracts were awarded for restoring infrastructure projects that US forces destroyed going in, which they made a killing at. Also charging the US government three times the normal cost of things was Halliburton's MO. The oil that Iraq produced, was sold and an account was set up in which was consider public coffer trust and money that would eventually be used in the future reconstruction of Iraq. Things like Military equipment was sold to the Iraqi Government in which the Oil revenues were used to pay for. Halliburton did the same with infrastructure rebuild services such as rebuilding the electrical grid, Water, and Fiber optic networks to nae a few were some examples they made a killing at. Oh and we won't mention the missing money mysteriously disappearing to the tune of 18 trillion dollars which is a travesty unto itself, the point is the military was being used by the external players like Halliburton looking to exploit a manufactured crisis. As the common saying goes, war is highly profitable enterprise, this is one of many observations I made when I was in Iraq. I can tell you even more but that is still in classified non disclosure status.
Here is what you said: ''( The real reason we went to Iraq served several purposes) 1. Halliburton which sought to cash in on several government contracts by proving in an experiment that they can erect a functioning city, with a population of 300,000 in a matter of less than 2 weeks. 2nd reason was to have a military base of operations to Sandwich the conflict in Afghanistan and to monitor Iran's military activities, in other words it was a idea geographic strategic point for security forces to move assets to support both wars. It wasn't until the Green Zone was established that Multi-coalition forces joined the cause in the reconstruction effort for much of the country.''
To me, it seems that you implied that the real reasons, are the exact reasons you are now trying to disown. I accept though if you felt you didn't make your point clearly, because I know how difficult it is to express complex points.
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One final thing. This thread, the past few weeks, has descended into some kind of weird tin foil hat club. I don't know about the specifics of many of the things posted otherwise I would challenge them. I have for the most part tried to keep my nose clean if the topic wasn't within my circle of competence. There are though, without doubt, deliberate attempts by some people, groups, agencies and governments, to spread misinformation online about the actions of American and the West with a view to undermining the West's credibility to create dissent, or to turn a few bucks. And that deliberate misinformation and misdirection is latched on as being the truth without verification. You claim to be searching for the truth, yet you are happy to take at face value the erroneous claims made in at least one video that can be readily proven false.
We ought to be very critical of our own governments, but we should be equally critical of youtube videos that reference Russia today, as potentially being Russian influenced propaganda. I agree with you, our monetary system is too loose but not as loose as China's, and it is certainly a lot better. I agree with you that the US/UK coalition going into Iraq in hindsight was wrong, but we have a significantly better record of tackling human rights than Sadaam, and have been indeed pioneers. I agree with you that our own media is biased, but that Russia today is literally the mouthpiece of the kremlin. And I agree with you that we should be looking for alternative sources but zerohedge is at best sensationalist click-bait in the pursuit of money or at worst a Russian lead disinformation operation.
I already know that aspect on how to calculate, I just want to know where you got the actual Fed Deficit figure.
The figures I got were from ycharts, but there are plenty of other sites. The 2% figure was for 2015, I understand it is expected to be closer to 3% this year.
Well no matter how you want to slice it is still using futures to mortgage a debt in a round about way it is still the same. We still need to pay off the debt and we still need to print money at some point. It simply doesn't float into space somewhere to eventually be used on a rainy when that debt is called in at a later time or simply wishing away to become dead. It is always there. The same with the 2008 bank bail out, in which the US tax payer is burdened with having to pay that as well.
Of course it needs to be paid down. But the US can run a deficit of 2% for the next 30 years, and the debt to GDP would almost certainly be lower.
The debt problem in American is not terminal.
I am not defending it, but merely pointing that it has happened before in the early 70's where the supply did not meet the demand and there was for a certain period of time a energy crisis relating to Oil and gas.
That's OK. So long as we know the point made about OPEC fixing the price to an affordable level is a stupid on.
The dollar being backed by the US government is not a monetary insurance such as gold as being a quantifiable substance ofequal value. So yes I am correct in saying that the US dollar is essentially back by nothing and created out out of thin Air. As far as the Yuan being backed by gold it practically already is come on! That has been China's plan all along as they also seek to replace the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency.
http://goldsilverworlds.com/gold-sil...cked-renminbi/ (http://goldsilverworlds.com/gold-silver-insights/does-china-plan-a-gold-backed-renminbi/)
It is backed, in good or bad faith, by the American government. I understand that you are saying it isn't convertible to say a gold, but to say it is not backed by anything is wrong.
And the yuan still isn't 'backed' by gold. That is a 2012 article, saying they think the Chinese might at some point in the future want to revert to some kind of gold standard.That is not evidence of a gold standard for the yuan. I don't think the Chinese will ever give up the ability to manipulate their currency by pegging to a gold standard, I'm going to stick my neck out and say that won't happen. And in any event, are people really going to trust Chicom to convert their yuan to gold? I know I wouldn't trust a completely unaccountably communist dictatorship to covert my yuan to gold.
First of all I never said that US forces or Haliburton went into Iraq for oil. Never did I say that, and I suggest you reread what I wrote. Further more, we never even ended up with a drop of Iraq's oil. What I do know is that many contracts were awarded for restoring infrastructure projects that US forces destroyed going in, which they made a killing at. Also charging the US government three times the normal cost of things was Halliburton's MO. The oil that Iraq produced, was sold and an account was set up in which was consider public coffer trust and money that would eventually be used in the future reconstruction of Iraq. Things like Military equipment was sold to the Iraqi Government in which the Oil revenues were used to pay for. Halliburton did the same with infrastructure rebuild services such as rebuilding the electrical grid, Water, and Fiber optic networks to nae a few were some examples they made a killing at. Oh and we won't mention the missing money mysteriously disappearing to the tune of 18 trillion dollars which is a travesty unto itself, the point is the military was being used by the external players like Halliburton looking to exploit a manufactured crisis. As the common saying goes, war is highly profitable enterprise, this is one of many observations I made when I was in Iraq. I can tell you even more but that is still in classified non disclosure status.
Here is what you said: ''( The real reason we went to Iraq served several purposes) 1. Halliburton which sought to cash in on several government contracts by proving in an experiment that they can erect a functioning city, with a population of 300,000 in a matter of less than 2 weeks. 2nd reason was to have a military base of operations to Sandwich the conflict in Afghanistan and to monitor Iran's military activities, in other words it was a idea geographic strategic point for security forces to move assets to support both wars. It wasn't until the Green Zone was established that Multi-coalition forces joined the cause in the reconstruction effort for much of the country.''
To me, it seems that you implied that the real reasons, are the exact reasons you are now trying to disown. I accept though if you felt you didn't make your point clearly, because I know how difficult it is to express complex points.
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One final thing. This thread, the past few weeks, has descended into some kind of weird tin foil hat club. I don't know about the specifics of many of the things posted otherwise I would challenge them. I have for the most part tried to keep my nose clean if the topic wasn't within my circle of competence. There are though, without doubt, deliberate attempts by some people, groups, agencies and governments, to spread misinformation online about the actions of American and the West with a view to undermining the West's credibility to create dissent, or to turn a few bucks. And that deliberate misinformation and misdirection is latched on as being the truth without verification. You claim to be searching for the truth, yet you are happy to take at face value the erroneous claims made in at least one video that can be readily proven false.
We ought to be very critical of our own governments, but we should be equally critical of youtube videos that reference Russia today, as potentially being Russian influenced propaganda. I agree with you, our monetary system is too loose but not as loose as China's, and it is certainly a lot better. I agree with you that the US/UK coalition going into Iraq in hindsight was wrong, but we have a significantly better record of tackling human rights than Sadaam, and have been indeed pioneers. I agree with you that our own media is biased, but that Russia today is literally the mouthpiece of the kremlin. And I agree with you that we should be looking for alternative sources but zerohedge is at best sensationalist click-bait in the pursuit of money or at worst a Russian lead disinformation operation.
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- Oct 24, 2016 8:19am Oct 24, 2016 8:19am
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Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
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- Edited 10:29am Oct 24, 2016 10:17am | Edited 10:29am
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I def prefer you italics for quoting, so I'm going to copy that
I seriously doubt that! The numbers just don't add when considering our output in current terms. This is something of course I will be looking further into, but to be honest I have no time due to currently being involved with a start-up company that requires a lot of my time lately. I would also be interested to know of your perspective as it relates to the markets of FX and whether or not you think there is any manipulations going on. This will at least give me a sense on how you think about things like this.
is backed, in good or bad faith, by the American government. I understand that you are saying it isn't convertible to say a gold, but to say it is not backed by anything is wrong
How do quantify "Good faith" and to call it a thing? It is more or less a handshake, and I don't think I am not wrong for asserting that the US dollar is backed by nothing.
China and being backed by gold, is true in terms of not being verified, however even though I quoted an article that is dated from 2010, it is without a question that China has been hoarding a copious amount of Gold and Gold mines in which would seem to have many believe that they now probably own the worlds largest percentage of Gold reserves. That being said, having recently been accepted into the basket of funds at the IMF to qualify for being a reserve currency, there is a strong case to be made that the Yuan can be backed by gold if there was such a plan. Also the Chinese never giving up manipulating their currency, maybe be true as in old habits die hard, but at some point they will be forced to change due to the suggested renegotiated trade deals with the US and it already seems to becoming a hot topic as one of Trump's proposals. He had announced in his Historical Gettysburg address as of yesterday as one of the things he will do in his first 100 days in office if he is elected by listing China as a currency manipulator.
To me, it seems that you implied that the real reasons, are the exact reasons you are now trying to disown.
What are you talking about disowning? I never said anything about OIL as being a reason something you were putting words in my mouth as saying.
You said this: "that the Haliburton was interested in the oil field etc."
I never said Halliburton was interested in the Oil field, and no where in any statement did I imply as such as being a central reason why US led forces went into Iraq
You are basically repeating what I said previously as supporting statements that corroborates my original statement and what I already reiterated, so what part of my statement did I disown in relation to my reasons for going into Iraq? Perhaps I can clarify it for you.
One final thing. This thread, the past few weeks, has descended into some kind of weird tin foil hat club. I don't know about the specifics of many of the things posted otherwise I would challenge them. I have for the most part tried to keep my nose clean if the topic wasn't within my circle of competence. There are though, without doubt, deliberate attempts by some people, groups, agencies and governments, to spread misinformation online about the actions of American and the West with a view to undermining the West's credibility to create dissent, or to turn a few bucks. And that deliberate misinformation and misdirection is latched on as being the truth without verification. You claim to be searching for the truth, yet you are happy to take at face value the erroneous claims made in at least one video that can be readily proven false.
Can you be a little bit more specific in what you are referring to? Tin foil hat? I understand Verve that you have a penchant for having an Analytical way of thinking, this in a way is where we are a like, however having conversations or sharing ideas you require verification of the facts, in that sense it presenting a case in linear fashion. However that being said there are exceptions to the rule where a particular subject matter doesn't always provide hard verifiable facts, but nuances of pieces of the investigative nature of discussions that inspires to explore more and uncover said such truths. Tin Foil hat kind is one in which describes the paranoid extreme type I hardly think discussions in this thread can be characterized as such. This is a forum for discussion, a sharing of ideas, not a court room where the threshold of evidence is weighed to determine a particular verdict. To be honest that video does have some holes in it as you suggest, but not all of the points it makes are false either. To dismiss outright is not being fully objective. So in other words the proper filters must be applied in order to arrive to ones own conclusions on what are erroneous and what are factual claims.
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- Edited 3:21pm Oct 24, 2016 2:45pm | Edited 3:21pm
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- Edited Oct 25, 2016 1:23am Oct 24, 2016 8:43pm | Edited Oct 25, 2016 1:23am
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- Oct 25, 2016 1:05am Oct 25, 2016 1:05am
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Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
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- Edited 6:31am Oct 25, 2016 6:19am | Edited 6:31am
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{quote} That might be true. I don't doubt there was more than one reason to go into Iraq, what I do doubt though is that WMD was not a real reason (which was implied) and that private contracts and a military base to sandwich Iraq was the real reason. It isn't that I disagree that those are also potential reason, it is the idea that they are the real reasons and the WMDs wasn't. I don't think anyone here, even you who sat at the meetings, and was privy to the 'real reason' conversation. I accept that it might be the case that the public reason given...
That might be true. I don't doubt there was more than one reason to go into Iraq, what I do doubt though is that WMD was not a real reason (which was implied) and that private contracts and a military base to sandwich Iraq was the real reason.
You can believe what you want, but I am telling you that it wasn't.
This was your WMD's ! An already depleted weapons cache that was used in the media campaign to prove there was a WMD's program after many months of refuting the media's narrative. The truth is Saddam didn't have any and is speculated but not confirmed that a lot of them were smuggled into Syria. This of course is something I highly doubt but I am not 100% certain about this, because it was never confirmed.
Also the "Sandwich" strategy was not for Iraq, it was for Iran and Afghanistan operations, Iraq presented that opportunity from a strategic standpoint. Also I was there when our forces took over for the Brits in Basra. Just look at a map you will see why this was an important location. Obviously your own forces thought high enough of it to secure and occupy it and so did the US forces
Speaking of British forces. They are excellent at Kinetics but lousy at reconstruction. We were the opposite in that regards and we weren't as fit as the Brits as the saying goes. In other words they are an excellent soldier. What I admire most about them is their spartan approach as opposed to our forces need to bomb everything beyond recognition and rebuild it again.
I can tell you more on the evolution of our equipment as examples of adapting to the battlefield conditions.
Camp Victory. Saddam's Al Farwa Palace on the outside. Also the head quarters for Multi-Coalition forces
Inside
Pertaining to your last statement, I can agree with you to a certain extent in terms of weighing facts and fiction to filling in gaps. After all, some questions have never been answered as was victims never having been found in the 9-11 after math. So naturally those questions will continue to persist!
I wonder if your wife has a hard time in getting you to attend a play? Lol!
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- Oct 25, 2016 7:53am Oct 25, 2016 7:53am
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{quote} That might be true. I don't doubt there was more than one reason to go into Iraq, what I do doubt though is that WMD was not a real reason (which was implied) and that private contracts and a military base to sandwich Iraq was the real reason. You can believe what you want, but I am telling you that it wasn't. {image} This was your WMD's ! An already depleted weapons cache that was used in the media campaign to prove there was a WMD's program after many months of refuting the media's narrative. The truth is Saddam didn't have any and is...
Are these valid survival techniques in the army?
https://youtu.be/4U_xmfSwYSw
https://youtu.be/IFJxabPfKqY
- #618
- Oct 25, 2016 9:15am Oct 25, 2016 9:15am
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{quote} Interesting pictures! But I'm sorry to say my first thought was actually nice weather, followed by nice light...
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- Edited 6:36pm Oct 25, 2016 9:19am | Edited 6:36pm
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- Oct 25, 2016 11:22am Oct 25, 2016 11:22am
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