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  •  tylerbose
  • Joined Oct 2011 | Status: don't trade like i do | 485 Posts
now that i have your attention, how do i do it ?
i lose money for a living
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  •  AntiVi
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Quoting tylerbose
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now that i have your attention, how do i do it ?
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Win the lottery.
 
 
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  •  pursuit_21
  • | Joined Aug 2007 | Status: playing the long game | 257 Posts
that's the easy part...

even easier part is going from $1,000,000 to $0 in the 13th month.
 
 
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  • Oct 5, 2016 8:31pm Oct 5, 2016 8:31pm
  •  dkrock
  • Joined Jul 2013 | Status: Gone | 1,106 Posts
How do you want to do it? What is your trading personality, technical or fundamental? Do you want to modify what you have always done, or do something completely different? What time frame do you prefer, or do you prefer range bars or point-n-figure? Have you trained yourself to professionally gamble? Do you understand about supply/demand and statistical methods to measure it, or do you have to use support/resistance lines, trend lines, and candle shapes? Do you have disposable income to use? Can you be awake during the market hours the currencies you want to trade are most active? Do you have any help? Do you have enough computer equipment to trade multiple pairs?

The path to profit is:
1. Developing an edge for entry.
2. Developing a counter-measure for being wrong.
3. Developing a method for exiting when profitable.
4. Developing a spreadsheet to calculate risk per trade.
5. Applying your trading process, compounding the profits, and increasing the risk.

Where are you in that cycle?
You cannot be extraordinary by being normal
 
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  • Oct 5, 2016 8:33pm Oct 5, 2016 8:33pm
  •  jlongo
  • | Joined Mar 2012 | Status: Member | 50 Posts
Why not euromillions ? 100$ to 156.000.000€ not on a year, not in a month, not in a week, but in 3 days ???
Started a blog: terraceman blogspot com
 
 
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  •  lyondegreat
  • | Joined Mar 2011 | Status: Titan | 80 Posts
$4167 per day
$20,833 per week
$83,333 per month
$1,000,000 after a year
 
 
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  • Oct 5, 2016 8:55pm Oct 5, 2016 8:55pm
  •  alphaomega
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Stare Into the Lights My Pretties! | 764 Posts
Many people will post jokes and laugh here, despite the fact that your question is VERY relevant.
The reason people laugh is because subconsciously they firmly believe that this kind of return is impossible to achieve in such short period of time. And many believe that is not possible at all)

But in fact from a technical standpoint, 100 to 1mil. is nothing special.

You just have to double the account 13 -14 times and you have 1 mil.

The whole problem is psychological. Trading is mental game! A game of numbers and nerves! Many people have the knowledge and the skills, but very VERY few have the guts to stand the psychological pressure. This is the main reason why you don't see traders with such high returns. Because 99.9% of people have a strong tendency to break down psychologically when put under extreme mental pressure.

For more on the subject - You should read my thread about the psychology of trading!
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=566056

When you are confronted with such problem, you have to approach it with open mind.
Think scientifically, think logically, and forget the conventional wisdom!!

Define the real problem before solving it!

What is the goal, what are the obstacles, how to overcome the obstacles.
The goal - turn 100 to 1 000 000 within 12 months.
The main obstacle - your mind!
The main solution to the main obstacle - your mind!

The question comes again! How to turn 100 to 1 000 000 within 12 months. Is it even possible? I mean really? How many people in this forum are asking this question? Hmmm....it looks like we are running in circles here.....

Let's break down the problem.

To turn 100 into 1 000 000 you have to double the account a little over 13 times.
To turn 100 into 1 000 000 within 12 months, you have to make around 120% return per month.

120% = 120$

with 50:1 leverage 120$=240pips per month, or 12 pips per day!

HA! Turns out that you are asking the wrong question!

The real question is - How to make 12 pips (on average) per day for a year while trading with 50:1 leverage without blowing the account?

So there you have it! Now we have clear definition of the real problem.

Immediately the first thing that comes to mind is risk management!
Now 9 out of 10 people are asking - How the hell one can manage risk with 50:1 leverage.

The answer is Very, very, VERY carefully!

To point you in the right direction, I can give you 3 words:

Scalping. Patience. Discipline.

The rest of the story - Figure it out by yourself!!
 
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  •  albern
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Step 1: Visit www.forexfactory.com/trades.php
Step 2: Click on the first name you see and notice their account is down more than 40%
Step 3: Analyze their trade list and see how most of their winning trades are probably 20 pips or less and then see how their losses are 100 pips or more.
Step 4: Trade as they do!
 
 
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  •  Combro
  • Joined May 2016 | Status: Turn The Tables | 20 Posts | Online Now
Quoting tylerbose
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now that i have your attention, how do i do it ?
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be patient sir, i try to figure out...and never found it.
"We will never know the real Answer, before you try"
 
 
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  •  Naf Tsu
  • | Joined Oct 2008 | Status: Member | 6 Posts
Quoting tylerbose
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now that i have your attention, how do i do it ?
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Let say that 12 months is equal to 200 trading day. So you have to win 5% from your every day balance (compounding). If you consistent get 5% a day then you can get your 1,000,000 in 12 months.
wanna be one of 10% traders
 
 
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  •  sam_forex
  • | Joined Dec 2010 | Status: Member | 6 Posts
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The main obstacle - your mind! The main solution to the main obstacle - your mind!
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That's very true. It is the Trader's mind that makes or breaks the trader. The attachment to the money is the main obstacle.
That said, following the plan would require the trader trading with hundreds of lots especially towards the end of 12 months on his way making 1 million.
How practical is that? I think there will be liquidity issues. Would it be good idea to place stop orders so all lots fill in at the same exact price? perhaps multiple broker accounts would help to divide the lots evenly.
 
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  • Oct 10, 2016 8:08pm Oct 10, 2016 8:08pm
  •  Forexcube
  • Joined Nov 2009 | Status: Member | 27,245 Posts
Hope dies last!
 
 
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  • Oct 10, 2016 10:41pm Oct 10, 2016 10:41pm
  •  Badem
  • | Joined Jan 2016 | Status: Stackin pips | 112 Posts
Maybe with fading but highly doubt it ... eventually there'll be a deep retrace and you'll get trailed out.
 
 
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  • Oct 10, 2016 11:04pm Oct 10, 2016 11:04pm
  •  LinFX
  • | Joined Jun 2015 | Status: Member | 163 Posts
Quoting alphaomega
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Many people will post jokes and laugh here, despite the fact that your question is VERY relevant. The reason people laugh is because subconsciously they firmly believe that this kind of return is impossible to achieve in such short period of time. And many believe that is not possible at all) But in fact from a technical standpoint, 100 to 1mil. is nothing special. You just have to double the account 13 -14 times and you have 1 mil. The whole problem is psychological. Trading is mental game! A game of numbers and nerves! Many...
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Hi, AlphaOmega, May I know what is the position size for those 12 pips? I'm not good with math but my average pips per day (after subtracting losses) is about that level, but I play with fixed lot size and small one. Cheers!
Simplicity is the key to brilliance
 
 
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  • Oct 10, 2016 11:07pm Oct 10, 2016 11:07pm
  •  rtkwar
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Member | 189 Posts
that's very simple and not impossible just one thing you have to do:
1- learn black magic and summon demon and start ask him when and what you should buy or sell and when you should stop he will tell you everything
2- you can bring paper and 2 pencil and play charlie game, summon charlie and start ask him if you should buy that or sell that he will answer with yes or no and ask him which hour minutes seconds blah blah blah until you make him crazy.
or play weja
or do anything to get demon from demons dimension and ask him and it's will be nice if he can trade instead of you.
send him to tell you news result before anyone else know
just be brave and sell yourself to demon he will help you to be rich , it's good deal
in the end i am coward but if that success with you tell me :v
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  •  alphaomega
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Stare Into the Lights My Pretties! | 764 Posts
Quoting sam_forex
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{quote} That's very true. It is the Trader's mind that makes or breaks the trader. The attachment to the money is the main obstacle. That said, following the plan would require the trader trading with hundreds of lots especially towards the end of 12 months on his way making 1 million. How practical is that? I think there will be liquidity issues. Would it be good idea to place stop orders so all lots fill in at the same exact price? perhaps multiple broker accounts would help to divide the lots evenly.
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Assuming your broker is good, you are not going to have any issues with liquidity if you scalp with the major pairs during most active hours (where trading sessions overlap), as long as your trade size is under 10-15 mil.
Major problems will begin to occur when your trade size exceeds 30-50 mil. and at this level scalping becomes very hard.
Here is a snapshot from one of my brokers api (Asian session right now):
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As you can see, you can get a fill for 10M in the range of 0.5 pips. And this is just one broker! Of course you can use several brokers, multiple accounts, and manage them simultaneously by using master account and trade copier.
 
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  •  datdle
  • | Joined Oct 2013 | Status: Member | 190 Posts
ok, you can di like this and after 1 year you will have millionaire
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  •  saoldric
  • | Joined May 2013 | Status: Member | 432 Posts
average 2.56% for 365 trading days and you will reach 1 million. Compounding, the 8th wonder of the world.
Believe your right, till proven wrong. Doubt is the greatest enemy.
 
 
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  •  tetis
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average 2.56% for 365 trading days and you will reach 1 million. Compounding, the 8th wonder of the world.
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365 trading day is about 18 months he wants 12 months solution!
 
 
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  •  Mingary
  • Joined Mar 2011 | Status: I should be on your ignore list | 5,595 Posts
The only way that this ever be achieved is by keeping the equity (not the balance) at zero or above.
The only factor that fluctuates is the equity -- not the balance.
Therefore trade the equity, not the balance.
 
 
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