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  • Jul 22, 2016 1:45pm Jul 22, 2016 1:45pm
  •  SugarTrade
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Posting in a hilarious thread.
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 1:46pm Jul 22, 2016 1:46pm
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Anyone who has been following this thread, has seen be post several charts with fibs on them.

The stop loss on my system ALWays is the order2/3 fib level. You can see where the 1.00 lot size order opened and it should have closed at 2 candles after entering. Clearly, no EA, no alert, NOTHING, so the order remained open for a pip loss which i have NEVER allowed to have remained open before. Well not since starting this TE for everyone to see. Clearly the sl rules were not respected, and what should had been a minus 10 8 pip loss and a reverse to a buy side (even with the same lot size would of been a massive profit in the account) turned into a "all or none" order which is not my form of trading by any means!
@GJscalper I've turned a new leaf. No more trolling.
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 1:48pm Jul 22, 2016 1:48pm
  •  Geppy
  • Joined Sep 2007 | Status: Member | 6,871 Posts
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{image} Anyone who has been following this thread, has seen be post several charts with fibs on them. The stop loss on my system ALWays is the order2/3 fib level. You can see where the 1.00 lot size order opened and it should have closed at 2 candles after entering. Clearly, no EA, no alert, NOTHING, so the order remained open for a pip loss which i have NEVER allowed to have remained open before. Well not since starting this TE for everyone to see. Clearly the sl rules were not respected, and what should had been a minus 10 8 pip loss and a...
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So a hard coded EA somehow malfunctioned? If that's your story, I'll leave it at that.

Not saying I'm buying it, but I'll leave it alone.

GL going forward, man.
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  • Jul 22, 2016 1:49pm Jul 22, 2016 1:49pm
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
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{quote} {quote} I don't know if he gave up or not yet. We haven't heard from him. I imagine he feels a lot of emotions right now: anger, regret, humiliation... to name a few. That's normal. And I can't blame him for not wanting to show up here yet, if at all. The contest is not technically over. Although not explicitly stated, my primary objective with this challenge was to expose GJscalper. I feel like I've done that. So for me, the point of all this is accomplished. That said, I am willing to continue the challenge if GJscalper shows up and says...
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Well at least this is good for U Bro! The revelations of the truth costing U almost $2000 so far...
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
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  •  Geppy
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{quote} Well at least this is good for U Bro! The revelations of the truth costing U almost $2000 so far...
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How has it cost me $2000 when I started with $5k and currently have $4k?

You may need to work on those math and reading skills.

Also, I don't find this to be "good" for me. GJscalper just had a tough lesson. I'm not celebrating that. I know the pain the guy is going through because I've been there years ago. It's not fun. Hopefully he can learn from it though.
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  • Jul 22, 2016 1:51pm Jul 22, 2016 1:51pm
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{quote} So a hard coded EA somehow malfunctioned? If that's your story, I'll leave it at that. Not saying I'm buying it, but I'll leave it alone. GL going forward, man.
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Wrong. Had the EA been on, the order would of automatically closed (the sell) and it would of reversed to a buy automatically as it has all week long. Since from the start I decided to place one trade and get some sleep, I turned off the EA, set a pending order for the sell (which was hit right on the nose) and set a price alert at the sl. The price alert hit, but I didn't hear the alert. So all in all there is nothing more to explain. The week ended up horribly for this account but taking away that one trade, everything else was picture perfect! Next week is a new week and I will be back at it to recover the loss and head north to 2k!
@GJscalper I've turned a new leaf. No more trolling.
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 1:59pm Jul 22, 2016 1:59pm
  •  mvp77
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{quote} Wrong. Had the EA been on, the order would of automatically closed (the sell) and it would of reversed to a buy automatically as it has all week long. Since from the start I decided to place one trade and get some sleep, I turned off the EA, set a pending order for the sell (which was hit right on the nose) and set a price alert at the sl. The price alert hit, but I didn't hear the alert. So all in all there is nothing more to explain. The week ended up horribly for this account but taking away that one trade, everything else was...
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VPS?
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 2:17pm Jul 22, 2016 2:17pm
  •  fxtrader18
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I'm SOOOOOOO confused right now!
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 2:29pm Jul 22, 2016 2:29pm
  •  Genimi
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This was a terrible week for me .

Só mant slaps in the face...
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 2:30pm Jul 22, 2016 2:30pm
  •  TwFXtrader
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Sometimes i just don't understand why don't you guys just wait one high accuracy set up.

I just enter a set up that i have been waiting for that day and put most of the risk into that trade.

you guys are over trading
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 2:34pm Jul 22, 2016 2:34pm
  •  gugun555
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{quote} Wrong. Had the EA been on, the order would of automatically closed (the sell) and it would of reversed to a buy automatically as it has all week long. Since from the start I decided to place one trade and get some sleep, I turned off the EA, set a pending order for the sell (which was hit right on the nose) and set a price alert at the sl. The price alert hit, but I didn't hear the alert. So all in all there is nothing more to explain. The week ended up horribly for this account but taking away that one trade, everything else was picture...
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{quote} VPS?
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LOL.... still i dont understand, its look like the position been closed manually, if only the EA operates alone your balance should be $0 now instead $203.

if the EA off, how come it opened the 2nd sequence, the one with 1 lot?
making money is easy in forex, losing money is even easier...
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 2:44pm Jul 22, 2016 2:44pm
  •  bluejack
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{quote} Wrong. Had the EA been on, the order would of automatically closed (the sell) and it would of reversed to a buy automatically as it has all week long. Since from the start I decided to place one trade and get some sleep, I turned off the EA, set a pending order for the sell (which was hit right on the nose) and set a price alert at the sl. The price alert hit, but I didn't hear the alert. So all in all there is nothing more to explain. The week ended up horribly for this account but taking away that one trade, everything else was picture...
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Makes sense. All the best for next week to both of You..
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 3:33pm Jul 22, 2016 3:33pm
  •  coralsands
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{quote} {quote} Although not explicitly stated, my primary objective with this challenge was to expose GJscalper. I feel like I've done that. So for me, the point of all this is accomplished. That said, I am willing to continue the challenge if GJscalper shows up and says he's continuing. But regardless, what I set out to do has been done.
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Yes, you certainly exposed GJScalper - he showed us how to double an account in just a few days. That is crazy math. Meanwhile, you showed us how a "swing trader" opens and closes 114 trades in 5 days and loses 20% of his account. If I were Geppy I would just keep my mouth shut and keep plotting along until he makes a profit. GJS is still in the game. Sure, something happened last night and we might not ever get the truth, but to make double your account in a few days is quite an accomplishment.
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 3:38pm Jul 22, 2016 3:38pm
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{quote} {quote} LOL.... still i dont understand, its look like the position been closed manually, if only the EA operates alone your balance should be $0 now instead $203. if the EA off, how come it opened the 2nd sequence, the one with 1 lot?
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In correct. Brokers set something called "Margin level" and "stop out level" So say you are long on a position and your margin level is 12,000% even if you are trading on 2000:1 leverage (just as an example) you would not margin call and be left with 0.00 in your account. In the case of ICmarkets, their stop out level is 80% I believe. So once your account is at that level the broker automatically closes the trade for you, thus leaving the account at the amount it is now.
@GJscalper I've turned a new leaf. No more trolling.
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 3:40pm Jul 22, 2016 3:40pm
  •  Geppy
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{quote} Yes, you certainly exposed GJScalper - he showed us how to double an account in just a few days. That is crazy math. Meanwhile, you showed us how a "swing trader" opens and closes 114 trades in 5 days and loses 20% of his account. If I were Geppy I would just keep my mouth shut and keep plotting along until he makes a profit. GJS is still in the game. Sure, something happened last night and we might not ever get the truth, but to make double your account in a few days is quite an accomplishment.
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He was up 48% at his peak, so you aren't even half right.

I'm not even going to bother responding to the rest of your post because you clearly have no grasp on reality or logic.
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  • Jul 22, 2016 3:41pm Jul 22, 2016 3:41pm
  •  Geppy
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{quote} In correct. Brokers set something called "Margin level" and "stop out level" So say you are long on a position and your margin level is 12,000% even if you are trading on 2000:1 leverage (just as an example) you would not margin call and be left with 0.00 in your account. In the case of ICmarkets, their stop out level is 80% I believe. So once your account is at that level the broker automatically closes the trade for you, thus leaving the account at the amount it is now.
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Likely true (I haven't had the experience in a long time). But it makes sense... brokers don't want to be in the business of trying to collect negative balances.

Just ask FXCM
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  • Jul 22, 2016 3:42pm Jul 22, 2016 3:42pm
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{quote} Yes, you certainly exposed GJScalper - he showed us how to double an account in just a few days. That is crazy math. Meanwhile, you showed us how a "swing trader" opens and closes 114 trades in 5 days and loses 20% of his account. If I were Geppy I would just keep my mouth shut and keep plotting along until he makes a profit. GJS is still in the game. Sure, something happened last night and we might not ever get the truth, but to make double your account in a few days is quite an accomplishment.
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Sadly, even if I were to have turned the account to 1000% profit in 4 days, simply blowing it up in one day/trade is what turns people off about scalping. I really urge people to look at my trade history and compare past losses to that one loss. Clearly something occured which isn't normal. Comparing my losses to those of Geppy you will see that his losses are consistant, while mine are relatively small, minus the last trade.

That is why I decided to show my setups with charts, so people can always see where the SL should be and from the chart I posted you clearly can see the SL was not respected. Had I heard the price alarm I would of closed the sell, and reversed to the buy and all would of been great. Infact it would of been my biggest profit yet. So now we move forward into next week and continue fighting to keep the account balance up. clearly I have a longer way to go to breakeven compared to Geppy.
@GJscalper I've turned a new leaf. No more trolling.
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 3:43pm Jul 22, 2016 3:43pm
  •  GJscalper
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Sometimes i just don't understand why don't you guys just wait one high accuracy set up. I just enter a set up that i have been waiting for that day and put most of the risk into that trade. you guys are over trading
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I am sorry, but what the heck are you talking about. This thread has nothing to do about you and your trading and OVERTRADING is an excuse for those who lose. Geppy doesn't "OVERTRADE" nor do I.
@GJscalper I've turned a new leaf. No more trolling.
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 3:51pm Jul 22, 2016 3:51pm
  •  PrymeTyme
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{quote} Sadly, even if I were to have turned the account to 1000% profit in 4 days, simply blowing it up in one day/trade is what turns people off about scalping. I really urge people to look at my trade history and compare past losses to that one loss. Clearly something occured which isn't normal. Comparing my losses to those of Geppy you will see that his losses are consistant, while mine are relatively small, minus the last trade. That is why I decided to show my setups with charts, so people can always see where the SL should be and from the chart I posted you clearly can see the SL was not respected. Had I heard the price alarm I would of closed the sell, and reversed to the buy and all would of been great. Infact it would of been my biggest profit yet. So now we move forward into next week and continue fighting to keep the account balance up. clearly I have a longer way to go to breakeven compared to Geppy.
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sorry bru , but you go to sleep with a 1 lot size trade! which isnt that common in your history ,, without a hard stop ?

what does that say? .. you should rethink your approach.. right ?
 
 
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  • Jul 22, 2016 3:55pm Jul 22, 2016 3:55pm
  •  ill_be_back
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{quote} Sadly, even if I were to have turned the account to 1000% profit in 4 days, simply blowing it up in one day/trade is what turns people off about scalping. I really urge people to look at my trade history and compare past losses to that one loss. Clearly something occured which isn't normal. Comparing my losses to those of Geppy you will see that his losses are consistant, while mine are relatively small, minus the last trade. That is why I decided to show my setups with charts, so people can always see where the SL should be and from the...
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I am sure you can do it, Just remember not to leave your trade running without Hard S/L when u go to sleep
In fact, just Don't trade when u go to sleep
All the Best
A good trader follows his rules, but great trader knows when to break them
 
 
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