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  • #61
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:09am Jul 13, 2016 4:09am
Quoting Vlad13685
{quote} Hedging is easy to implement. Getting out of a hedged scenario (profitably) is not so easy... How would you recommend this be done? Regards Vlad
NO you get me wrong! my friend

This is not kind of Hedging you are talking about.
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  • #62
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:12am Jul 13, 2016 4:12am
Quoting Edorenta
{quote} Thank you for sharing your approach. I'll look into it. Btw could you tell me what version of MT4 you're using and what's your screen resolution? I ran some tests on several computers and my InfoBox looks much better on my screens than it does on yours, no idea why {image}
version 988.....

no problem at all.....

There is a change you have not mentioned my friend....

If we turn the ADX filter on, why EA will slow down the lots increase rate?

That's good but how does it work?
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  • #63
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:20am Jul 13, 2016 4:20am
any setfile of this ea or use as default setting
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  • #64
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:20am Jul 13, 2016 4:20am
As I told before, I'm running two charts, one with just "sell" orders and one with just bye "orders", it works with no problems. Of course the profit from the "trending" order is minimal cause it only opens the smallest lot and closes in TP in the direction of the trend, while the other order is increasing lot sizes (martingale) doing it's normal retracement behavior, nevertheless, is some profit. I can't see other way to do this without get stuck in "hedge open positions problems" (other than the one that EG104 does).

We could also increase the lot in the trending positions(like piggy permits), but this would need to be done manually, and I don't think this is Edorenta goal when he designed the EA. I think this was about building the most safest martingale EA, and for the record I think Edorenta have done a great job.

With all of this, I'm not saying that there's no ways to improvement, thanks for your contributions friend jonirrenicus. Let's build the best grid EA ever
  • #65
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:24am Jul 13, 2016 4:24am
Quoting kornrogers
As I told before, I'm running two charts, one with just "sell" orders and one with just bye "orders", it works with no problems. Of course the profit from the "trend" order is minimal cause it only opens the smallest lot and closes in TP in the direction of the trend, while the other order is increasing lot sizes (martingale) doing it's normal retracement behavior, nevertheless, is some profit.
I'll try something similar. I think that the EA misses counter-cycle opportunities as it gets stuck in a position waiting for a retracement.
Could you share your early results? Are you using the ADX trend filter?

Cheers
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  • #66
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:26am Jul 13, 2016 4:26am
Quoting jonirrenicus
{quote}There is a change you have not mentioned my friend.... If we turn the ADX filter on, why EA will slow down the lots increase rate? That's good but how does it work?
Nothing in my code is meant to lead to such a slow down.
You'll always miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
  • #67
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:33am Jul 13, 2016 4:33am
Quoting Edorenta
{quote} I'll try something similar. I think that the EA misses counter-cycle opportunities as it gets stuck in a position waiting for a retracement. Could you share your early results? Are you using the ADX trend filter? Cheers
That happened to me while visual backtesting, but live running it, the trend order closes the positions normally when it reaches TP line. While the other chart is doing the martingale approach. I was doing this with the first version with no adx.

I think a buy and sell order opened at the same time, one doing martingale and the other just booking profits in the direction of the trend is easy to do? Don't you think, at least for start...
  • #68
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:39am Jul 13, 2016 4:39am
Quoting kornrogers
As I told before, I'm running two charts, one with just "sell" orders and one with just bye "orders", it works with no problems. Of course the profit from the "trending" order is minimal cause it only opens the smallest lot and closes in TP in the direction of the trend, while the other order is increasing lot sizes (martingale) doing it's normal retracement behavior, nevertheless, is some profit. I can't see other way to do this without get stuck in "hedge open positions problems" (other than the one that EG104 does). We could also increase the...
You know what, that's exactly what i'm thinking.

This kind of EAs are wasting pips in a trend by doing nothing but waiting. I believe counter-trading will not only increase the profit but also allow your stuck positions to get out earlier.

for EX.
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if you only buy, price will never retrace back to your TP. (dead)

But if you also sell, you already in profit before the market move down further. (live)

NOTES: if we increase lot size too quickly and trend reversed, it will blow up.
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  • #69
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:41am Jul 13, 2016 4:41am
Quoting Edorenta
{quote} Nothing in my code is meant to lead to such a slow down.
ok, pls. test it on MAY 31th G/U M5. you will find the difference.
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  • #70
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:55am Jul 13, 2016 4:55am
Quoting jonirrenicus
{quote} ok, pls. test it on MAY 31th G/U M5. you will find the difference.
I don't know it it's the same thing, but I have one open cycle now of buy orders, while the trend is down, and the orders are 0,02, 0,02, 0,04 , 0,06 and 0,02 again? Shouldn't it be 0,12?
  • #71
  • Jul 13, 2016 4:57am Jul 13, 2016 4:57am
Quoting kornrogers
{quote} I don't know it it's the same thing, but I have one open cycle now of buy orders, while the trend is down, and the orders are 0,02, 0,02, 0,04 , 0,06 and 0,02 again? Shouldn't it be 0,12?
You've probably shut the expert down and started it over on the chart, or reloaded MT4.
You'll always miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
  • #72
  • Jul 13, 2016 5:01am Jul 13, 2016 5:01am
At first I thought about that, but it opened the order in the same step size, and with the same TP of the others orders :S

Wait, I did reload MT4 to test the AP 4.3 version...maybe it's that...

Now, with the AP 4.3 version this problem is solved?
  • #73
  • Jul 13, 2016 5:04am Jul 13, 2016 5:04am
Quoting kornrogers
At first I thought about that, but it opened the order in the same step size, and with the same TP of the others orders :S Wait, I did reload MT4 to test the AP3 version...maybe it's that... Now, with the AP3 version this problem is solved?
It's not a problem, it is just that the lot management starts over when you restart the EA. The magic being the same the EA will manage the old orders TP, but won't calculate the new lot based on the old cycle
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  • #74
  • Edited 5:23am Jul 13, 2016 5:06am | Edited 5:23am
You can find enclosed the sets I'm using to run FT on Autop 4.3.
I did not optimize anything, but the results are quite steady on most pairs.
(results are SHORT ONLY)
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  • #75
  • Edited 6:18am Jul 13, 2016 6:07am | Edited 6:18am
Just one more thing, not wanting to overpost or monopolize the thread.

I've tried to change the settings as your suggestion to create a scalping version, that would work on ranging markets, and I did with some success. It opens and closes orders fast and successively, but sometimes, when the order goes in the direction of the trend, it doesn't close the order in profit, and keep it open for a long time. Anyway to overcome this without manually closing the order? Or it's a problem in my settings?
  • #76
  • Jul 13, 2016 6:18am Jul 13, 2016 6:18am
Quoting kornrogers
Just one more thing, not wanting to overpost or monopolize the thread. I've tried to change the settings as your suggestion to create a scalping version, that would work on ranging markets, and I did with some success. It opens and closes orders successively, but sometimes, when the order goes in the direction of the trend, it doesn't close the order in profit, and keep it open for a long time. Anyway to overcome this without manually closing the order? Or it's a problem in my settings?
Because you have "Keep open positions in trend" selected to "true"
  • #77
  • Jul 13, 2016 6:31am Jul 13, 2016 6:31am
Ok, gonna try it.
  • #78
  • Jul 13, 2016 7:00am Jul 13, 2016 7:00am
Thanks for share Edorenta. Good
  • #79
  • Jul 13, 2016 9:43am Jul 13, 2016 9:43am
Something rong with the TP?
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  • #80
  • Jul 13, 2016 3:16pm Jul 13, 2016 3:16pm
Quoting gilfx
Something rong with the TP? {image}
Hey bud, there seems to be a little glitch on JPY pairs, I'll fix it Friday as I'm away for 2 days, so do not use the EA on those yet
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