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  • #1,861
  • Jun 28, 2016 3:22pm Jun 28, 2016 3:22pm
Quoting jdva
{quote} I'm sorry..pehaps dumb question: in General Settings column first line is "Manual Magic Number = 0". Do I need to change this value to greater than 0? Thanks, jdva
don't use it for now. leave it at defaults = 0
it will be used for manual trading, something I am working on in the a240 system for future releases.
Please ignore it for now,
thanks,
bauta
  • #1,862
  • Jun 28, 2016 8:14pm Jun 28, 2016 8:14pm
Hi bauta,
I've done some tick data backtesting with the contracting grid and I really like the initial results. Have you considered allowing more than 4 levels before it begins contracting? Perhaps it would work well if we could accumulate more small positions, then hedge our way out after something like the 8th or 9th level has been passed. Please let me know what you think of this idea. Thanks again for the continued development support!
  • #1,863
  • Jun 28, 2016 10:10pm Jun 28, 2016 10:10pm
Quoting yermommy
Hi bauta, I've done some tick data backtesting with the contracting grid and I really like the initial results. Have you considered allowing more than 4 levels before it begins contracting? Perhaps it would work well if we could accumulate more small positions, then hedge our way out after something like the 8th or 9th level has been passed. Please let me know what you think of this idea. Thanks again for the continued development support!
contracting starts at level 1 for symmetry and for channel.
expansion starts after level 4 for symmetry and level 1 for channel.
I will revise the idea of smaller positions.
thanks, bauta
  • #1,864
  • Jun 29, 2016 2:31am Jun 29, 2016 2:31am
hi
is it possible that for first three trades lot size should be multipled by multiplier 1 and after that it is multiplied by 1.5 in symmtery hedge mode



like buy+sell
profit thn new lot should be of same lot size thn if continues in same direction for 3 tp thn after that it should be initial multipler of 1.5
  • #1,865
  • Jun 29, 2016 4:44am Jun 29, 2016 4:44am
Bauta, I have started Contracting EA 20 hours ago, it opened at once a buy und sell trade but later on no more trades. Please take a look over my settings for checking whether there is possibly a mistake.

Thanks for support...!

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  • #1,866
  • Jun 29, 2016 8:12am Jun 29, 2016 8:12am
Quoting jdva
Bauta, I have started Contracting EA 20 hours ago, it opened at once a buy und sell trade but later on no more trades. Please take a look over my settings for checking whether there is possibly a mistake. Thanks for support...! {image}
your settings are correct.
in this scenario the price must move 50 pips before actions. (execution and contractions)
if you want more activity, lower the grid size, 30 per example. Note that smaller grid sizes more money is required and more orders will be executed, also better profit factor. (better profit, more risk)
I am demoing gridsizepips=0 and gridSizeFactor=4. I will let you know how it goes.
good luck trading! bauta

Note EG104 uses pips, not points. if you are in a 5 digits broker, you will need 500 points. (50 pips)
  • #1,867
  • Jun 29, 2016 8:36am Jun 29, 2016 8:36am
Hello - im sure there is a logical explanation, so can you explain this:
(All 0.01 lot on eurusd 3/1-today, all same settings)
using symmetry style only I have 1400 profit. Magic 301
Using channel style only I have 1450 profit. Magic 301
Using both styles simultaneously I have 400 profit. Magic 301 and 302.
Intuitively I would have expected 2850.
Curious to know how to explain that.
Thanks!
  • #1,868
  • Jun 29, 2016 8:56am Jun 29, 2016 8:56am
Hello Bauta,

While in closure mode I already hit target three seperate times today. Is that normal? I also recently noticed that points work better than pips with my 5 digit broker. Thanks for confirming in above post. Also, I'd still like to know if it's better to stick with 5 digit pairs or does it matter? Thanks, BoHanna
  • #1,869
  • Jun 29, 2016 8:58am Jun 29, 2016 8:58am
Just targeted again. That makes four times today......
  • #1,870
  • Jun 29, 2016 9:12am Jun 29, 2016 9:12am
Quoting bauta
{quote} your settings are correct. in this scenario the price must move 50 pips before actions. (execution and contractions) if you want more activity, lower the grid size, 30 per example. Note that smaller grid sizes more money is required and more orders will be executed, also better profit factor. (better profit, more risk) I am demoing gridsizepips=0 and gridSizeFactor=4. I will let you know how it goes. good luck trading! bauta Note EG104 uses pips, not points. if you are in a 5 digits broker, you will need 500 points. (50 pips)
thanks, Bauta...lowered grid size to 30, shows SHORT target now 1.92, what is that meaning?
Perhaps AUDNZD pair is not very suitable because yesterdays range was just 48 pips and today's 44 p. so far. I think timeframe doesn't matter?
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  • #1,871
  • Jun 29, 2016 9:25am Jun 29, 2016 9:25am
Quoting BoHanna
Hello Bauta, While in closure mode I already hit target three seperate times today. Is that normal? I also recently noticed that points work better than pips with my 5 digit broker. Thanks for confirming in above post. Also, I'd still like to know if it's better to stick with 5 digit pairs or does it matter? Thanks, BoHanna
5 digits broker is better.
  • #1,872
  • Jun 29, 2016 9:32am Jun 29, 2016 9:32am
Thank you!
  • #1,873
  • Jun 29, 2016 9:38am Jun 29, 2016 9:38am
Quoting jdva
{quote} thanks, Bauta...lowered grid size to 30, shows SHORT target now 1.92, what is that meaning? Perhaps AUDNZD pair is not very suitable because yesterdays range was just 48 pips and today's 44 p. so far. I think timeframe doesn't matter?
timeframe not affect EG104 at all. you will receive the same results on any timeframe.
target is the cycle minimum target, note the symmetry will close many targeted orders in between before closing the cycle. its means target will be bigger.
when symmetry goes to closure mode, target will be 0.01, but at that point in time, EG104 already closed some orders for profit. Closure mode will break even existing opened orders, not the cycle. the cycle always profit.
SHORT means the desire direction to profit, is the yellow line position. you may see your cycle changing from SHORT to LONG. That is normal.
symmetry swap direction automatically, you may see it if you pay attention to it. That is normal.
The yellow line is the start of the cycle, but also, symmetry may close a cycle partially. it means the start of the cycle will jump to a greater time, that is also normal.
symmetry is powerful, reason I do focus more in symmetry than channel. it is true that it needs a well funded account to control DD, but its potential is
infinite, the trade imagination may create infinite setups.
I am continue recommending defaults parameters because they are working best for my trading style, you may demo and setup your own parameters.
Note that default symmetry GridSizeFactor has been changed to 6
good luck trading!
  • #1,874
  • Edited 10:21am Jun 29, 2016 9:41am | Edited 10:21am
New Trade Explorer Created: EG104.v32_25K

Standard ECN 100k contract size account. ECN is not required. EG104 adapts well to STD accounts.
I am creating this explorer to demo the release 032 and up.
Rules:

  1. Parameter values set to default
  2. Using I-MinLot from post one. Drop it on EURUSD at the beginning of every week.
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  3. Keep AvailableLost near 0. If it is positive add one pair. if it is negative, remove one pair.
  4. if total opened pairs is greater than 15, start adding to StartLotQty of existing ones.
  5. Use DayTarget EA to target 1% daily and to filter on news. (default values)
  6. closure mode 8 or more hours before on other high impact events like brexit.
  7. patience and common sense.
  8. wait three months, without changing the setups, to consider going live.

for cent accounts, follow the same rules. I-MinLot and EG104 are tested, demoed and executed live on cent accounts.
EG104 works on 4 or 5 digits broker. Its prefers 5 digits broker.

My 15 pairs: (any order, I do prefere EURUSD, GBPUSD and USDJPY first)
AUDJPY, AUDNZD, AUDUSD, EURAUD, EURGBP, EURJPY, EURUSD, GBPCHF, GBPJPY, GBPUSD, NZDJPY, NZDUSD, USDCAD, USDCHF, USDJPY

http://www.forexfactory.com/bauta/49

good luck trading!
bauta

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  • #1,875
  • Jun 29, 2016 10:00am Jun 29, 2016 10:00am
Quoting bauta
New Trade Explorer Created: EG104.v32_25K Standard ECN 100k contract size account I am creating this explorer to demo the release 032 and up. Rules: Parameter values set to default Using I-MinLot from post one. Drop it on EURUSD at the beginning of every week. {image} Keep AvailableLost near 0. If it is positive add one pair. if it is negative, remove one pair. Use DayTarget EA to target 1% daily and to filter on news. (default values)...
thx and sorry, Bauta, I'm a little confused...that are completely different settings as recommended in post#1858...
f.i. Dynamic_Percent_Increase=16 is positive not negative...and gridsizepips =0...what should I take?
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  • #1,876
  • Jun 29, 2016 10:09am Jun 29, 2016 10:09am
Quoting jdva
{quote} thx and sorry, Bauta, I'm a little confused...that are completely different settings as recommended in post#1858... f.i. Dynamic_Percent_Increase=16 is positive not negative...and gridsizepips =0...what should I take?
sorry for the confusion. post 1858 is completely a different and more advanced setup. I do continue trading the default parameters as more as possible.
I do recommend you to start demoing with defaults parameters and after you understand well, then move to more advanced setups.
I am not trading contraction live. it is too new to do so, I am demoing it with a GridSizeFactor of 4, today its targets my 1% and it is waiting for a new broker session to begins. Just one day demo is not sufficient. I always recommend at least 3 months demoing it before going live.
bauta
  • #1,877
  • Jun 29, 2016 11:08am Jun 29, 2016 11:08am
Hello Bauta

I d'ont understand (+1.79-0.30-1.49-0.01=-0.01 profits) GBPAUD
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  • #1,878
  • Jun 29, 2016 11:11am Jun 29, 2016 11:11am
GBPAUD printscreen
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  • #1,879
  • Jun 29, 2016 11:14am Jun 29, 2016 11:14am
Quoting gilfx
Hello Bauta I d'ont understand (+1.79-0.30-1.49-0.01=-0.01 profits) GBPAUD {image}
sorry, I don't understand your question. please explain,
right click the trade window and be sure you have swap, commission and comments select. screen shot one more time and post here.
sample:
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  • #1,880
  • Jun 29, 2016 11:24am Jun 29, 2016 11:24am
Quoting bauta
{quote} sorry, I don't understand your question. please explain, right click the trade window and be sure you have swap, commission and comments select. screen shot one more time and post here. sample: {image}
The cycle closed without profits
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