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  • #140,981
  • Jun 14, 2016 6:07pm Jun 14, 2016 6:07pm
Quoting KGP
{quote} thats what i have already did as i mentioned above.... i will start trading euro area currencies and their crosses.... the moment the actual result is out until then the market is full of alternative options for speculations
if you are trading then you like playing with theories.the situation above is you might be doesnt like the big uncertinty where ı am in the same ship
  • #140,982
  • Jun 14, 2016 6:17pm Jun 14, 2016 6:17pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote}As always, I'm joking. And not joking. Honestly, I don't understand the utter depths of self-loathing it must take to allow one's culture to be destroyed. Or is "culture" now even a pass concept, unwelcome in the sterile vacuum of post-modernism? I'm old, I still have living uncles whose brothers never made it back from Europe, from the last time fascism threatened to "unify" Europe. I don't know what you are offering to replace nationalism with? Clearly, a lot of people there think it is with something worse.
Nation states are a rather young notion / concept 500 years only since Westphalia. Which is nothing really in historical terms. Feudalism in the medieval ages arguably lasted a bit longer. i don't really expect either they will be replaced any time soon either. I am realist but doesn't mean I am against progress and better options.

However, is again about the principle not the fact. If you want to evolve and move forward you need to think beyond as you will raise the bar so societies can keep making small steps towards a bigger goal with bette conditions for humans as a whole.

Its like, as extreme but relevant examples Why bother abolishing child labour in factories in the UK after the industrial revolution or slavery in the US or woman right to vote or anything if nothing really changed in the short term ... its because as long as you keep moving towards a higher goal the best chances for positive change in the long run.

In that sense, in 20,200 or 2000 years people will laugh at us of our notion of nation state constraint by borders. Point is there are universal values that are higher than lines in a map or the colour of your passport, religion or skin. Looking inwards and in isolation is never a step forward but is a step backwards. It always has been and it alway will be ....

sisse
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  • #140,983
  • Jun 14, 2016 6:19pm Jun 14, 2016 6:19pm
Quoting vasily
{quote} if you are trading then you like playing with theories.the situation above is you might be doesnt like the big uncertinty where ı am in the same ship
ok i am not going to analyse it further than that

i like to speculate meaning to "explore" possibilities

i dont like just "viewing" them (theory word wise comes from the same "name" greek word which in turn is derived from another greek word which actually means "viewing/observing")


so what i meant i dont like viewing things i prefer trading/exploring/deciding on/etc them

in this case i prefer not trading what i see or what the theories are (i hope i am not misunderstood)

thats it over and out regarding the wording issue
  • #140,984
  • Jun 14, 2016 6:26pm Jun 14, 2016 6:26pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Thats the main issue right now. The brexiters are hard votes OUT, active in the street and online, vocal and large chunk of them of are not working in large and busy cities like London and will 100% chances go to Vote. While the large majority of normal but passive remain voters are usually too 'busy' to remember (although with the amount of noise in the press I suspect it will be different) or bother to give you an opinion in favour and are like most of educated people SICK of so much BS and lies and want this to be over asap. So its a...
bare in mind that we had the same scenario with the Scotland case... the "poor/rural" ones wanted to be on their own while the "city fellows" (educated/rich with jobs etc) to stay as it is...

at the end the ones who wanted solo didnt turn up to vote either because they thought it was a done deal in favor of Scotland becoming independent (because of the polls etc)...


does anyone know if the result is going to be presented in "one go" or each region will announce its results separately as it happens with general elections and happened with Scotland ?

lets not forget that the voting takes place on a thursday not a weekend so its going to be "fun" watching the PA
  • #140,985
  • Jun 14, 2016 6:30pm Jun 14, 2016 6:30pm
Quoting sisse
Point is there are universal values that are higher than lines in a map or the colour of your passport, religion or skin. Looking inwards and in isolation is never a step forward but is a step backwards. It always has been and it alway will be .... sisse
yeah, sounds great, good luck expounding on Universal Values to the armies of the Caliphate. Honestly, I doubt there are enough men left in Europe to defend it against the IS Girl Scouts.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #140,986
  • Jun 14, 2016 6:38pm Jun 14, 2016 6:38pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote}yeah, sounds great, good luck expounding o...
You don't. You lead by example and by actions.

Europe will be doom not by the EU or its neighbours across the Mediterranean or the Eastern border but by the myopic view of their politicians that hide all the BS behind national interest... We have 475 years of permanent wars (with only the last 75 yeas of peace in between discounting 'on purpose' the balkans) between each other and 2 WWars to prove it ...enough to kill any argument that the problem will come from outside its borders...

sisse
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  • #140,987
  • Jun 14, 2016 6:51pm Jun 14, 2016 6:51pm
Enough with politics for now. There will be plenty more before the vote. Before i close shop today

Third Call !!! jump in. Table open as long as we are trading in the range....

--> Question 11: Rates or Risk. June FED with major risk event on sight how would you trade the next legs?

++++Currently Euro is trading 1.120x++++

Risky Rates


IN


-> LMT BUY 1.115x -> TP1 => 1.123x | TP2 => 1.1350 | TP3 => 1.145x | STP => 1.108x | max r:r -=> (+)4:1*

Fadhl

manosk

Earleone

chronical

Pharm0r

No touch (for 3 days) | 1.110x or 1.130x and No touch (until noon on UK referendum day) | 1.100x or 1.140x | max r:r => (+) 4:1*

IMARICH1


-> LMT SELL 1.125x -> TP1 => 1.117x | TP2 => 1.105x | TP4 => 1.095x | STP => 1.132x | max r:r -=> (+)4:1*

hoom

clayjay

eborn

chester123

Pixie666

goosebone

PAStalker

Grinsakh (thx corrected)

sisse
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  • #140,988
  • Jun 14, 2016 7:09pm Jun 14, 2016 7:09pm
It's not up to the voters to decide whether or not Britain stays in the EU. any vote that is not obviously swayed (80-20 for example) will be altered to suit the wills of those in power. Period. If you THINK for a second that is not the case, then you do indeed live in a utopian fantasy land.

We are talking the economic outcome of not only countries, but the billionaires within those countries.

Voting is simply playing pretend. No matter the country, hemisphere, 1st or 3rd world.
  • #140,989
  • Jun 14, 2016 7:15pm Jun 14, 2016 7:15pm
LMT BUY 1.115x -> TP1 => 1.123x | TP2 => 1.1350 | TP3 => 1.145x | STP => 1.108x | max r:r -=> (+)4:1
  • #140,990
  • Jun 14, 2016 7:35pm Jun 14, 2016 7:35pm
Quoting sisse
Third Call !!!
I'll take the sell please
"Mrrraggglhlhghghlgh"
  • #140,991
  • Edited 9:39pm Jun 14, 2016 8:51pm | Edited 9:39pm
EUR price is now 1.1196, did I miss this iteration? I would have gone with
-> LMT BUY 1.115x -> TP1 => 1.123x | TP2 => 1.1350 | TP3 => 1.145x | STP => 1.108x | max r:r -=> (+)4:1*
  • #140,992
  • Jun 14, 2016 11:01pm Jun 14, 2016 11:01pm
First time playing. I'll go with:

-> LMT BUY 1.11564 -> TP1 => 1.123x | TP2 => 1.1350 | TP3 => 1.145x | STP => 1.108x | max r:r -=> (+)4:1*
  • #140,993
  • Jun 15, 2016 3:01am Jun 15, 2016 3:01am
Quoting vasily
{quote} wow or may be you can help "white europeans" about how to make some babys, or soon the land will be totaly left to others "sand nigger ‎(plural sand niggers) (derogatory, offensive, ethnic slur) A person of Middle Eastern or North African descent."
IMHO the vote has nothing to do with GDP or a Utopian never never land - its abt democracy pure and simple.

This sums it up pretty well(much better than I can) - worth watching if you haven't already

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  • #140,994
  • Jun 15, 2016 3:46am Jun 15, 2016 3:46am
Quoting Pharm0r
It's not up to the voters to decide whether or not Britain stays in the EU. any vote that is not obviously swayed (80-20 for example) will be altered to suit the wills of those in power. Period. If you THINK for a second that is not the case, then you do indeed live in a utopian fantasy land. We are talking the economic outcome of not only countries, but the billionaires within those countries. Voting is simply playing pretend. No matter the country, hemisphere, 1st or 3rd world.
I find it quite difficult to tell the difference between democracy aka capitalism and communism. Considering Ireland also had a referendums (plural) in relation to stay or leave be it the Nice treaty or Lisbon treaty = the passing of power to foreign powers with no accountability!

We voted "No" so they held another one shortly after until they got a YES.. funny they didn't hold another one in case we changed our minds again.. The Billionaires have already positioned themselves with either outcome, protecting their wealth is always number 1... especially in highly taxed environments.. Maybe we are heading into a phase where politics will sway more control over the financial futures of us all... after all greed is good..lol

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...n-eu-treaties/
  • #140,995
  • Jun 15, 2016 3:58am Jun 15, 2016 3:58am
Quoting sisse
{quote} You don't. You lead by example and by actions. Europe will be doom not by the EU or its neighbours across the Mediterranean or the Eastern border but by the myopic view of their politicians that hide all the BS behind national interest... We have 475 years of permanent wars (with only the last 75 yeas of peace in between discounting 'on purpose' the balkans) between each other and 2 WWars to prove it ...enough to kill any argument that the problem will come from outside its borders... sisse
Well said.
  • #140,996
  • Jun 15, 2016 4:09am Jun 15, 2016 4:09am
To late to join?

If not, this is the one of the three alternatives, I would pick:

-> LMT BUY 1.115x -> TP1 => 1.123x | TP2 => 1.1350 | TP3 => 1.145x | STP => 1.108x | max r:r -=> (+)4:1*
Do not let the cost of being wrong, exceed the prize of beeing right
  • #140,997
  • Jun 15, 2016 4:38am Jun 15, 2016 4:38am
Quoting The Fool
{quote}As always, I'm joking. And not joking. Honestly, I don't understand the utter depths of self-loathing it must take to allow one's culture to be destroyed. Or is "culture" now even a pass concept, unwelcome in the sterile vacuum of post-modernism? I'm old, I still have living uncles whose brothers never made it back from Europe, from the last time fascism threatened to "unify" Europe. I don't know what you are offering to replace nationalism with? Clearly, a lot of people there think it is with something worse.

I don't see culture in the UK as being destroyed in the slightest - the fear of this is something that the far right often prey on. Culture is an ever evolving phenomenon, never static. I live in London and enjoy many of the same things as I did from years ago and, thankfully, I also enjoy many more because of immigration and my eyes being continually opened to the wider world.

London (where I was born) is a highly diverse global city, in terms on inward migration from the EU and every country in the world, and it has an economy that is the envy of much of the world. It is an open and accepting city, a place with the most EU migration and also the place where UKIP, the promulgators on the dangers of free movement of people, fare considerably worse compared to the rest of the UK (note that in General Elections EU migrants do not get a vote). There is also greater support in London than other parts of England for remaining within the EU. This should speak volumes and provide balance to the rest of the UK on the realities of EU migration.

I want the UK to be as outward looking, working in closer collaberation with other countries to deal with the great challenges facing the world: climate change, food scarcity, poverty, wars, terrorism, migration, achieving sustainable and balanced economic growth... The worst way to move forward is for all countries to splinter, act in their own selfish interests, in beggar-thy-neighbour policies that do nothing to advance humanity and the common good.
  • #140,998
  • Jun 15, 2016 5:06am Jun 15, 2016 5:06am
Quoting gammase1
{quote} I don't see culture in the UK as being destroyed in the slightest - the fear of this is something that the far right often prey on. Culture is an ever evolving phenomenon, never static. I live in London and enjoy many of the same things as I did from years ago and, thankfully, I also enjoy many more because of immigration and my eyes being continually opened to the wider world. London (where I was born) is a highly diverse global city, in terms on inward migration from the EU and every country in the world, and it has an economy that is...
act in their own selfish interests, in beggar-thy-neighbour policies

Seems to work fine for US
  • #140,999
  • Jun 15, 2016 5:09am Jun 15, 2016 5:09am
Quoting Sa7an
{quote} act in their own selfish interests, in beggar-thy-neighbour policies Seems to work fine for US
Let's see how well that works out if Trump gets elected, taking insular, beggar-thy-neighbour, anti-intellectualism politics to the extreme.
  • #141,000
  • Jun 15, 2016 5:19am Jun 15, 2016 5:19am
Quoting gammase1
{quote} Let's see how well that works out if Trump gets elected, taking insular, beggar-thy-neighbour, anti-intellectualism politics to the extreme.
No change there then

Or maybe you'd prefer Hitlary
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