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  • #3,481
  • May 8, 2016 9:49am May 8, 2016 9:49am
Anybody with 99.9 modelling quality backtesting?
  • #3,482
  • May 8, 2016 12:35pm May 8, 2016 12:35pm
Quoting sajib0189
{quote} remon , u better finish ur previous method first before applying new method..... better modify v9 which was near to success with some bugs, just solve the bug.... for your information, if u always apply new method and increase ur coding with 1000 lines for applying new method and adjust with previous, ur EA will never perfect and come to end. u better finish v9 with old 2 method and make new EA with method 3 regards
Quoting TottiGoal
{quote} Too many irons in the fire!!!! You need to focus on one Method at the time mate
Quoting Bigape
[Quote = sajib0189; 8.914.742] {quote} Remon, u meglio finire ur metodo precedente prima di applicare nuovo metodo ..... meglio modificare v9 che era vicino al successo con alcuni bug, basta risolvere il bug .... per la vostra informazioni, se u applicare sempre nuovo metodo e aumentano ur codifica con 1000 linee per l'applicazione di nuovo metodo e regolare con precedenti, ur EA non sar mai perfetto e venire a fine. u meglio v9 finitura con il vecchio metodo 2 e fare nuove EA con il metodo 3 per quanto riguarda [/ quote] I agree. IMHO, I think...
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} I think that your best bet is to take a step back, scrap it all and release 1 EA per method. Let the thread followers test the method or methods that they choose. The true followers are here to help and support you. Lots of Love, Daniel
Thanks,
Good Suggestions,

I Will Try Again From Start,
To Make Method 1 Only/Alone In EA,
Let's Go.
  • #3,483
  • May 8, 2016 12:45pm May 8, 2016 12:45pm
Quoting MasterGuru
https://youtu.be/pKKmzmeU5-0 {quote}
Rinse and Repeat. LOL
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Forex; the game of movements not the game of candles.
  • #3,484
  • May 8, 2016 1:25pm May 8, 2016 1:25pm
Here is something slightly off the topic that I think a lot of you will find useful.

"You can save your MT4 reports as excel spreadsheets!!!!!!"

Simply change the extension of the file name to .xls when you are saving the file. Use the dropdown menu to "All Files (*.*)"

THAT'S IT!!

I am so excited about this...
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  • #3,485
  • May 8, 2016 2:06pm May 8, 2016 2:06pm
Quoting sajidkust
{quote} Rinse and Repeat. LOL {image}
OK.
  • #3,486
  • May 8, 2016 2:07pm May 8, 2016 2:07pm
Quoting keydcuk
Here is something slightly off the topic that I think a lot of you will find useful. "You can save your MT4 reports as excel spreadsheets!!!!!!" Simply change the extension of the file name to .xls when you are saving the file. Use the dropdown menu to "All Files (*.*)" THAT'S IT!! I am so excited about this... {image}
Thanks.
  • #3,487
  • May 8, 2016 2:44pm May 8, 2016 2:44pm
Quoting keydcuk
"You can save your MT4 reports as excel spreadsheets!!!!!!
It's always nice to read your positive and useful posts!

Thanks for this info!
  • #3,488
  • May 8, 2016 3:22pm May 8, 2016 3:22pm
Quoting kilion
{quote} It's always nice to read your positive and useful posts! Thanks for this info!
Cheers!
  • #3,489
  • May 8, 2016 4:52pm May 8, 2016 4:52pm
Hi remon, I am aware of the time and effort you have put into this project cheers !!! Here is a copy of a system I downloaded I have no idea if this will be of any benefit have a look see what you think.

Hedging System
HRicardoDS
Hedging purpose is minimize risk while maximize reward , but most people do EXACTLY the opposite.
So , the strategy :
We buy 4 lots and sell 3 lots (you can do is with (40 lots/30 lots) (0.40lots/0.30lots) (0.04/0.03) , only depends of your account size.
So , lets imagine we are trading EURUSD , and it falls 20 pips on the market , we close everything and exit with a loss of 20 pips (80-60)
If the price goes up 30 pips , we close the 4 lots buy order and 1 lot of the 3 sell orders , basically , we make a profit of 90 pips , now , if price keeps going up and goes 20 pips , we close the 2 left sell orders for a loss of 100 pips , basically we lose 10 pips (because we made the 90 pips profit with the others) .
Now the interesting part : after the price went 30 pips up , and we made the 90 pips profit , if goes back 30 pips , we close the 2 left sell orders on the entry price and we lose only the spread ,so we win 90 pips !
So , if we lose 20 pips on the first scenario , lose 10 pips on the second scenario , but we win 90 on the 3 scenario , the average risk reward is : 1:6 , pretty cool hein ?
Now , this may sound confusing , and my english dont help at all , but i will make improvements on the explanation , and show my trades with this method , so you guys can understand it better.
So , i am a lot experienced with Support & Resistance , and i use this method with it , because what he want is price to go up , and then come back to the entry price , but let me show you a variation if you are not experienced with Support & Resistance :
So , we buy 4 lots , and sell 3 lots (of course you can sell 4 lots and buy 3 lots)
So , lets say we are trading EURUSD and price goes down 90 pips.
Basically , we lose 90 pips , because we are balanced with a 4 lots buy and a 3 lots sell.
If price goes up 30 pips , we close the 4 lots buy order and 1 lot of the 3 lots sell order , and we made 90 pips , now if price goes back to the entry price we close the 2 lots sell order left and lose the spread and make 90 pips profit . If price goes up 20 pips instead of going back to the entry point, we lose 10 pips . ( We made the 90 pips when price went up 30 pips , and now we lose 100 pips after price continued 20 pips)
So , on the first scenario ( Price goes down 90 pips) we lose 90 pips , on the second scenario (price goes up 30 pips and goes back to the entry point) we make 90 pips , and on the 3 scenario ( price goes up 30 pips , and continues 20 pips) we only lose 10 pips.
You can notice that there is a 3 times bigger chance of price going up 30 pips instead of going down 90 pips , and our risk reward of scenario 1 VS scenario 2 would continue being 1:1 ! And scenario 2 VS 3 is 1:9 RR
  • #3,490
  • Edited 10:33pm May 8, 2016 10:18pm | Edited 10:33pm
I can do 99.9% modeling quality backtest. This was an attempt at 10k-120k like remon was looking for, Searching for decent settings. Still waiting for source code then maybe I can find room for code optimization so the backtest is faster. This will take forever to find good settings which is why I think remon is having everyone send him settings files.

Not sure that he will ever release the source.. Maybe I should start with the open source version posted in the beginning of this thread from another programmer.
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  • #3,491
  • May 9, 2016 1:24am May 9, 2016 1:24am
Quoting gmax111
I can do 99.9% modeling quality backtest. This was an attempt at 10k-120k like remon was looking for, Searching for decent settings. Still waiting for source code then maybe I can find room for code optimization so the backtest is faster. This will take forever to find good settings which is why I think remon is having everyone send him settings files. Not sure that he will ever release the source.. Maybe I should start with the open source version posted in the beginning of this thread from another programmer. {image}
HI CAN YOU MAKE A BACKTEST FOR THIS ONE ?

PAUSE_LEVEL=false
PAUSE_PROFIT=false
ChkForHang=true
DEALS_SOUND=true
StopOverAll=-100000000.0
ProfitOverAll=1.0
VirtualProfits=false
TestedDays=0.0
___________5844525===================================================================================================
___________5846636===================================================================================================
ENABLED1=true
METHOD1=2
SYMBOL1=EURUSD
MAGIC1=1
LevelsDistance1=3.0
LOT1=0.01
CalcSpreads1=-1
chkSharedOtherProfits1=-1
chkNoCloseOrLoser1First1=-1
chkNoCloseOrLoser2First1=-1
chkCloseAllProfitSharedDeals1=-1
chkCloseSingleLossLevel1=-1
chkCloseSingleWinLevel1=-1
ShareRatioHeart1=0
ShareRatioBox1=0
ProfitLevel1=0.0001
InvertBuySell1=-1
ManualSpread1=0.0
___________2568542===================================================================================================
___________5825485===================================================================================================
ENABLED2=false
METHOD2=2
SYMBOL2=EURUSD
MAGIC2=2
LevelsDistance2=10.0
LOT2=0.01
CalcSpreads2=0
chkSharedOtherProfits2=0
chkNoCloseOrLoser1First2=0
chkNoCloseOrLoser2First2=0
chkCloseAllProfitSharedDeals2=0
chkCloseSingleLossLevel2=0
chkCloseSingleWinLevel2=0
ShareRatioHeart2=0
ShareRatioBox2=0
ProfitLevel2=0.0001
InvertBuySell2=0
ManualSpread2=0.0
___________4686446===================================================================================================
___________2545856===================================================================================================
ENABLED3=false
METHOD3=2
SYMBOL3=EURUSD
MAGIC3=3
LevelsDistance3=10.0
LOT3=0.01
CalcSpreads3=0
chkSharedOtherProfits3=0
chkNoCloseOrLoser1First3=0
chkNoCloseOrLoser2First3=0
chkCloseAllProfitSharedDeals3=0
chkCloseSingleLossLevel3=0
chkCloseSingleWinLevel3=0
ShareRatioHeart3=0
ShareRatioBox3=0
ProfitLevel3=0.0001
InvertBuySell3=0
ManualSpread3=0.0
___________4645846===================================================================================================
___________4585236===================================================================================================
ENABLED4=false
METHOD4=2
SYMBOL4=EURUSD
MAGIC4=4
LevelsDistance4=10.0
LOT4=0.01
CalcSpreads4=0
chkSharedOtherProfits4=0
chkNoCloseOrLoser1First4=0
chkNoCloseOrLoser2First4=0
chkCloseAllProfitSharedDeals4=0
chkCloseSingleLossLevel4=0
chkCloseSingleWinLevel4=0
ShareRatioHeart4=0
ShareRatioBox4=0
ProfitLevel4=0.0001
InvertBuySell4=0
ManualSpread4=0.0
___________4585335===================================================================================================
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  • #3,492
  • Edited 10:59am May 9, 2016 2:10am | Edited 10:59am
Quoting gmax111
I can do 99.9% modeling quality backtest. This was an attempt at 10k-120k like remon was looking for, Searching for decent settings. Still waiting for source code then maybe I can find room for code optimization so the backtest is faster. This will take forever to find good settings which is why I think remon is having everyone send him settings files. Not sure that he will ever release the source.. Maybe I should start with the open source version posted in the beginning of this thread from another programmer. {image}
One should be very careful with "optimization" as most of the time it is simple "curve fitting" which also got the scientific name of "TEXAS SHARPSHOOTER FALLACY" (You can Google it.)

From Rationalwiki.org: "The fallacy's name comes from a parable in which a Texan fires his gun at the side of a barn, paints a bullseye around [randomly clustered] bullet holes, and claims to be a sharpshooter. Though the shots may have been totally random, he makes it appear as though he has performed a highly non-random act."

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  • #3,493
  • May 9, 2016 7:53am May 9, 2016 7:53am
Back-Testing TickbyTick from Jan. 2016 to Feb. 2016: no optimization(M1&2NoHedge).
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  • #3,494
  • Edited 10:25am May 9, 2016 10:13am | Edited 10:25am
Quoting MasterGuru
{quote} One should be very careful with "optimization" as most of the time it is a simple "curve fitting", which also got the scientific name of "TEXAS SHARPSHOOTER FALLACY" (You can Google it.) From Rationalwiki.org: "The fallacy's name comes from a parable in which a Texan fires his gun at the side of a barn, paints a bullseye around [randomly clustered] bullet holes, and claims to be a sharpshooter. Though the shots may have been totally random, he makes it appear as though...

I've been trading since 2004 and programming in mql4 since 2009. And I was talking about optimizing the code, so that it runs faster during backtests. Not optimizing the settings.
  • #3,495
  • May 9, 2016 11:00am May 9, 2016 11:00am
Quoting gmax111
{quote} I've been trading since 2004 and programming in mql4 since 2009. And I was talking about optimizing the code, so that it runs faster during backtests. Not optimizing the settings.
Sorry, misunderstood...

12 years of trading; hmmm... it seems that after all those years you still believe in the "unicorn" as most of us here... Even though we have never seen one...
  • #3,496
  • May 9, 2016 12:13pm May 9, 2016 12:13pm
Quoting MasterGuru
{quote} Sorry, misunderstood... 12 years of trading; hmmm... it seems that after all those years you still believe in the "unicorn" as most of us here... Even though we have never seen one...
Nope, there isn't a unicorn. But I'd rather build a herd of ponies, which is what you need to do. I like this idea ONLY because it keeps the margin % lower than most grids, but that is all. If we can open up remons black box we can improve this beyond what one man can. However since the inception of this thread we only have a half built open source system from another programmer that was dumped awhile ago.

In regards to your unicorn:
Quoting gmax111
{quote}{Feb 7, 2008 4:21am}
Prove it! I dont think there are any good EAs that consistently make money... I think some systems work but the market eventually changes and everything goes to ..... blah
  • #3,497
  • May 9, 2016 12:31pm May 9, 2016 12:31pm
In regards to code optimization, I've started testing Neo1's setting file; The tester has been running for ~3 hours and has only completed 1 month on tick data. ~4500 trades and the system hasn't done anything for the last .5 hour but the terminal is still running between 15%-30% cpu usage. There's no way for me to debug what is going on and I have no idea if I'm just wasting time and electricity.
  • #3,498
  • May 9, 2016 4:04pm May 9, 2016 4:04pm
Quoting gmax111
{quote} Nope, there isn't a unicorn. But I'd rather build a herd of ponies, which is what you need to do. I like this idea ONLY because it keeps the margin % lower than most grids, but that is all. If we can open up remons black box we can improve this beyond what one man can. However since the inception of this thread we only have a half built open source system from another programmer that was dumped awhile ago. In regards to your unicorn: {quote}
@gmax111

As you said in 2008 is still valid in 2016: "I dont think there are any good EAs that consistently make money... I think some systems work but the market eventually changes and everything goes to ..... blah"

I have not seen any EA over the past years either to contradict your statement...
  • #3,499
  • May 9, 2016 6:16pm May 9, 2016 6:16pm
It is now about testing. Idea can be:
If Somebody make excel file with possible settings sets for testing, people here can sign for testing ID and give him tested result. He collect result into excel and post here zip file. This can create more effective testing results. Now, people are testing same settings alone, again and again - no efficiency.
Important is, every one need test it with the same way.
  • #3,500
  • May 9, 2016 6:49pm May 9, 2016 6:49pm
Quoting MasterGuru
{quote} @gmax111 As you said in 2008 is still valid in 2016: "I dont think there are any good EAs that consistently make money... I think some systems work but the market eventually changes and everything goes to ..... blah" I have not seen any EA over the past years either to contradict your statement...
To be fair, this statement is also true in manual trading strategies. That is why you need more than one strategy to change to the market conditions and I am not just talking about ranging and trending either.
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