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  • #821
  • Apr 20, 2016 2:20pm Apr 20, 2016 2:20pm
very nice results on IRESH2

looks like a hidden gap close
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  • #822
  • Apr 21, 2016 1:52pm Apr 21, 2016 1:52pm
Quoting IreshChathu
Hi magix. what's going on. It's seem to be Iresh 2 is going well. Is there any way to use iresh 2 further to my live trading.

Working on it.

I've got brother Ne0 working on licensing for this one as a final, but may have a couple more options available on final release.

Will keep you posted.
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  • #823
  • Apr 21, 2016 2:18pm Apr 21, 2016 2:18pm
Quoting Go5
{quote} Ok, this is how FK ended, after climbing up to +50%, one "slaughter day", of -34%, then recovered some. {image}
It does have it's ups and downs to be sure.

One of the ways I played my DeadCat last year, was to allow it to blow up a demo account and once that happened, run it on live for a couple weeks.

Would alternate pairs very well this way.

Will look at optioning out the wussy close for a final version...that may see a little greater draw, but gives the user the option to hold on draw and wait for prosperity or close on wussy.

With the Stoploss in place, it might actually make more sense this way.
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  • #824
  • Apr 21, 2016 2:21pm Apr 21, 2016 2:21pm
Quoting thodie
very nice results on IRESH2 looks like a hidden gap close {image}
Given the array of pairs it's trading, I'm actually surprised we haven't seen that gap close yet!


It's been going fairly well and I am working on some ideas with this to have it more Renko friendly.

The Renko only version kicked ass on a 3 pip brick as far as minimizing draw, but was a very slow gainer. On a 1 pip brick, that fucker hit the skids in a week!

Something about marrying the Time Delay and the brick size that seemed to work out well...my demo of the OVO software expired and I haven't been round much to sign up or get shit going, but the overall on Iresh2 with a 1p brick was decent.

Still a few ideas to crush together and see what can be worked out.
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  • #825
  • Apr 22, 2016 9:54am Apr 22, 2016 9:54am
started a regular (tallinex) run of BB Renko to compare with the open trader I already have running to see if it responds any differently.
  • #826
  • Apr 22, 2016 6:03pm Apr 22, 2016 6:03pm
Quoting Dragonsinc
started a regular (tallinex) run of BB Renko to compare with the open trader I already have running to see if it responds any differently.

Don't.

This one is so bad, it's embarrassing!
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  • #827
  • Apr 25, 2016 5:11am Apr 25, 2016 5:11am
I had some ideas over the weekend working with the renko charts.

A better start than the bollinger band fiasco of the weeks of last.

Still a few kinks to be ironed out, but initially...looking goooooooood!
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  • #828
  • Apr 25, 2016 6:38am Apr 25, 2016 6:38am
BB Renko is slightly profitable on one trader, forgot to turn on auto trading on the other but it is now running - LOL. Will see how they do, and would be glad to try new EA when your ready for some tests.
  • #829
  • Apr 25, 2016 1:41pm Apr 25, 2016 1:41pm
Quoting Dragonsinc
BB Renko is slightly profitable on one trader, forgot to turn on auto trading on the other but it is now running - LOL. Will see how they do, and would be glad to try new EA when your ready for some tests.

There's a few issues with the logic of the New EAs. I've coded them specific for Renko Boxes, but have multiple triggers inside of tight ranges, not sure if I need to put at least a 60 second delay back in or need to tighten the brick sizes and expand the grid...somethings got to be done.

The biggest part of the logic is to hold all open positions, long and short until they close at a combined profit.

In doing this, I've had to make it so that we are taking grid positions above and below the original places instead of just cost averaging and still working on a suitable trigger.

It's pretty fucking kewl though...

If you look at the Iresh 2 that is linked to the thread, you can see in it's first week one pair went on a terror run and drained $1000...the new idea is, keep in trend, close all when longs or shorts has enough to cover the balance...

One of the EAs, below...using Daily Open as the long and short divider...you can see that all positions closed at the same time, and this was forced to wait until Profit+loss>=TP Value.

If I get this right...this fucker could be unbreakable!
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  • #830
  • Apr 25, 2016 1:51pm Apr 25, 2016 1:51pm
The problem...

It isn't listening very well and if you look, has multiple positions loaded on the same candle.

If that candle went against the trend, it still loaded more!

The idea is to get it and keep it like the following.

This was a primary version of the logic, running on all same sized trades. Myfxbook Link ->HERE

Decent enough gains, with a very reasonable draw...but given the trend that I have coded in, it hasn't had to cost average close shorts and longs yet, so really hasn't been challenged.

That, and the triggering is a little fucking goofy too...again, multiple positions open, it just hasn't seen this as a drawback, because all pairs trading have been in trend.
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  • #831
  • Apr 25, 2016 1:56pm Apr 25, 2016 1:56pm
Maybe...

I dump the close all logic in with FK7 or Iresh...might make for one fuck of a ROBOT!

Tight charts, good range...already consistent profits.

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  • #832
  • Apr 25, 2016 2:44pm Apr 25, 2016 2:44pm
I tried gridding with Renko, still inconclusive about it. Not enough move to fill up the levels too much at times, other times it's simply magnificent when it goes your way.
That said, I love your chart, it's definitely not something I would have traded myself so it is, for me, a "Falling Knife". Would be interesting to see on which end it falls and if I catch with my hands or feet.
  • #833
  • Apr 25, 2016 4:16pm Apr 25, 2016 4:16pm
Quoting Reamasesa
I tried gridding with Renko, still inconclusive about it. Not enough move to fill up the levels too much at times, other times it's simply magnificent when it goes your way. That said, I love your chart, it's definitely not something I would have traded myself so it is, for me, a "Falling Knife". Would be interesting to see on which end it falls and if I catch with my hands or feet.

I am not 100% convinced on the Gridding the Renkos either...but still a little something to work on.

There is always the buy/sell until profit on all turns, but who knows how this will react. I have a couple of free terminals that I can test on, will see if I can mash a little something together. It will be interesting to see it play out, might even be just a Friday EA as long as no holiday or long weekends are in play.

I still have a couple more ideas to play around with...spacing, bricksize, grid, working on the trigger logic - that may see a reduction in the amount of trades that gets taken, and I have a couple other ideas that may be implemented.

Still a lot of work and testing to be done, but I do like the way it looks.

For shitz n gigglez...

By Wednesday, I should be able to have a public version available. Will work it into the time and grid spacing so that all can venture, renko or not.

This gives me some time to code and test before dropping it in like I did with that fucking turd Bollinger Band trader.
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  • #834
  • Apr 26, 2016 10:48am Apr 26, 2016 10:48am
So...I figured I'd try the buy all bulls and sell all bears.

Closing logic is sum of all trades >= TP and a price in the same direction of the winning trades.

In the first few minutes, during London and before NY was online, it looked awesome. Reason being, it was only trading in the current direction and hammering closes as fast as it could open them.

After a while, a little retrace and then, multiples of multiples opened.


Will be interesting to see this all works out...

Here's an idea of the trades:
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  • #835
  • Apr 26, 2016 11:39am Apr 26, 2016 11:39am
[quote=Magix;8893887]So...I figured I'd try the buy all bulls and sell all bears. Closing logic is sum of all trades >= TP and a price in the same direction of the winning trades. In the first few minutes, during London and before NY was online, it looked awesome. Reason being, it was only trading in the current direction and hammering closes as fast as it could open them. After a while, a little retrace and then, multiples of multiples opened.
  • #836
  • Apr 26, 2016 8:41pm Apr 26, 2016 8:41pm
I made a little modification to try keep this a little more directional and restrictive...equity was on the rise, but so was the Draw!

Multiple positions loaded all over the fucking place!

Anyways...will run this into EOW and see how it turns out.

A neat trip for the AUD crosses...
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  • #837
  • Apr 26, 2016 8:45pm Apr 26, 2016 8:45pm
The directional renko made out like a bandit on the AUD crosses on GBP...a few shekles on EURAUD, zilch on AUDUSD.

I gotta fix the stool sample of triggering logic on this one...in spite of that, it's still seemingly having one fuck of a week!
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  • #838
  • Apr 26, 2016 8:58pm Apr 26, 2016 8:58pm
Quoting wazabi
{quote} Hi, Not sure if you want my input but, 1P renko is a good option. The reason is "price distance" / per brick. You should probably filter more by price and not by time. Time should only be used as a secondary filter. Before adding filters you must first have almost perfect entries, market changes so should your EA do to. I know without seeing your code that you will be better of removing half of your logic. Less is more! Below is an example of my agressive scalper. Had a bad start with 20% drawdown but after that it then cleared critical...

I worked on a little larger brick, but I think I've got this one too. (even with that, a few holes in the chart where price moved faster than broker could fill)



Just took me a while.

Thanks for idea!!
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  • #839
  • Apr 26, 2016 10:31pm Apr 26, 2016 10:31pm
Not making fist fulls of cash, but the DD is acceptable and well...equity curve is headed in the right direction.

Lotta help from the AUD crosses.

Now that I've confirmed that it's working, might have to do a little more research on better ranges and qualifying the triggering.
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  • #840
  • Apr 27, 2016 11:18pm Apr 27, 2016 11:18pm
Hi Magix,

What's the time expiration on the Iresh2? It just went from +3K$ to -100$ (huge market movement, I know but still, should have stopped somewhere, no?).


I like the last chart better, I think.
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