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  • #221
  • Dec 21, 2015 8:31am Dec 21, 2015 8:31am
Quoting CrucialPoint
I'm Dropping the Bomb Pick a number: 1 year 5 years 10 years 15 years 20 years 25 years 50 years 100 years 500 years 1000 years Some trader told me that 1 year back-testing data is not enough... the more the better, he says. I asked him, "How about 5 years of data?" He replied, "Well, 10 years is good." I added, "How about 20 years instead?." "Even better, it will be good if we have 100 years of data." he exclaimed. I then replied, "Fuck it. Let's go for 1000 years of data instead." He rolled his eyes, shook his head, turned and walked away....
Thanks for all your posts CP
  • #222
  • Dec 21, 2015 8:43am Dec 21, 2015 8:43am
I recall CP's biography because I don't want unnecessary posts and because his last post is a masterpiece.
"If you want to thank me, do it in spirit."

Wish you all a happy new year.

Alex
  • #223
  • Dec 21, 2015 8:53am Dec 21, 2015 8:53am
"Extensive backtesting is not required if you really understand your system."

- Tom Basso
  • #224
  • Dec 21, 2015 1:14pm Dec 21, 2015 1:14pm
Quoting alexx90
I recall CP's biography because I don't want unnecessary posts and because his last post is a masterpiece. "If you want to thank me, do it in spirit." Wish you all a happy new year. Alex
Masterpiece indeed
  • #225
  • Dec 21, 2015 4:33pm Dec 21, 2015 4:33pm
Quoting CrucialPoint
............That's why I refuse to teach anyone or share my discoveries. I've just dropped the atomic bomb of trading (The biggest secret in trading) Some will get it and some won't. To each his own, take it or leave... hopefully I have saved some poor souls. And lastly, this is my last post here if FF. Please Remember: Anyone who proclaims to be CrucialPoint is not me. DO NOT GET SCAMMED. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. May you achieve your goals in trading and life endeavors. Signing Out. Peace, CrucialPoint
It's a pity you are moving away, everything i've found and understood, belongs from your first thread; if i've figured out how to trade belongs from your brain teasers.
Many thanks!
  • #226
  • Dec 22, 2015 2:18am Dec 22, 2015 2:18am
Quoting CrucialPoint
Just Messing with your Brain {image} I once flipped a coin 10x (7 heads and 3 tails). I flipped it 20x (12 tails and 8 heads). Well, if the probability is 50%. The outcome is not 50%. Some guy explained to me that the probability is 50%, but this doesn't mean that you will get 5 heads and 5 tails. So, what will you get if the probability is 100%? Does this mean that you will get it wrong on a 100% probability? Why do we discriminate from probability 1-99% against 100%. 100% never lie yet 1-99% is give or take? Another guy came along and said...
Likewise,my development and the avenues i took were inspired from posts you made throughout this site.my consistency is a result of those paths i would not have passed down.thanks and happy growing ..................
  • #227
  • Dec 25, 2015 12:55pm Dec 25, 2015 12:55pm
THANK YOU MR.CRUCIALPOINT-YOU OPENED MY EYES ,AS OF NOW I DONT LOOK BEYOND,YOU KNOW WHAT I MEEN.THANKTOU ONCE AGAIN
  • #228
  • Feb 8, 2016 3:35am Feb 8, 2016 3:35am
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  • #229
  • Apr 2, 2016 12:33pm Apr 2, 2016 12:33pm
Quoting CrucialPoint
I'm Dropping the Bomb Pick a number: 1 year 5 years 10 years 15 years 20 years 25 years 50 years 100 years 500 years 1000 years Some trader told me that 1 year back-testing data is not enough... the more the better, he says. I asked him, "How about 5 years of data?" He replied, "Well, 10 years is good." I added, "How about 20 years instead?." "Even better, it will be good if we have 100 years of data." he exclaimed. I then replied, "Fuck it. Let's go for 1000 years of data instead." He rolled his eyes, shook his head, turned and walked away....


Hi
1)Does anyone know what Timeframe candle he is referring to.Is he referring to Daily candle.?
2)Does anyone know what settings for stocohastics he has used on his charts ?

Kindly help
  • #230
  • Apr 2, 2016 1:09pm Apr 2, 2016 1:09pm
Quoting edgartan
{quote} just wondering did u take this trade ? {image}

whats the settings on this chart plz
  • #231
  • Apr 3, 2016 11:25am Apr 3, 2016 11:25am
Quoting notwise
{quote} Hi 1)Does anyone know what Timeframe candle he is referring to.Is he referring to Daily candle.? 2)Does anyone know what settings for stocohastics he has used on his charts ? Kindly help

so no one knows it huh?
  • #232
  • Apr 3, 2016 12:03pm Apr 3, 2016 12:03pm
Quoting notwise
{quote} so no one knows it huh?
I see that you really have not patience plus you are ruining the thread. This thread is not about indicators or settings. Bye.

Alex
  • #233
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:10am Apr 4, 2016 8:10am
first:
I want to say that the measurement of something in time - it is a way to fix the changes. Any super task, which is placed in the time frame can be solved. Even paradoxical.
This is due to the fact that the time - this is what can not be infinite. 1 minute - it's 1 minute, there is nothing infinite.
What about the "unknown force" ... I do not think about such matters. I just earning my trade and that's all I need to know.
  • #234
  • Apr 4, 2016 10:31am Apr 4, 2016 10:31am
Metaphysics in trading ... It's original. I remember the lectures on philosophy. Individual will always be keen to learn all about using imagination and breadth of consciousness. I believe that the market moves only through financial operations and the reactions of the economy to these actions.
  • #235
  • Apr 5, 2016 3:34am Apr 5, 2016 3:34am
Quoting Derekt
Metaphysics in trading ... It's original. I remember the lectures on philosophy. Individual will always be keen to learn all about using imagination and breadth of consciousness. I believe that the market moves only through financial operations and the reactions of the economy to these actions.
Less original, more forgotten. Thales did it 2500 years ago.
  • #236
  • Apr 6, 2016 8:00am Apr 6, 2016 8:00am
Let's make money. I'm not saying that philosophy - it is bad. I say that it just needs to pass through itself. Just expands the horizons and trade. Money is real, things are real, and metaphysics - a workout for our brain.
  • #237
  • Apr 6, 2016 8:58am Apr 6, 2016 8:58am
Quoting DenForex
Let's make money. I'm not saying that philosophy - it is bad. I say that it just needs to pass through itself. Just expands the horizons and trade. Money is real, things are real, and metaphysics - a workout for our brain.
Answers, of every nature, lie behind doors which your eyes can't see but your imagination can.
~ Alex

Can you see your thoughts? Can you touch them? You can't. You can see the products of your thoughts, your actions. Yet thoughts are there.
Can you see the blocks of an house when its finished and painted? You can't, yet blocks are there.

It is a very difficult process try to see the world beyond your eyes, your fingers, your ears, your tongue and nose without imagination.

Alex
  • #238
  • Apr 7, 2016 2:30am Apr 7, 2016 2:30am
Quite right.

Den, you know the story yes?

So way back in ancient Greece, people said Thales, philosophy is futile, why bother? He says what would you chumps know?, or similar in Greek. And they say well it's all a brain workout, it's not real. Money is real. Olives are real. Make some money, prove it's worthwhile.

OK fuckheads, he says, watch this.

He then corners the olive market in one year, first ever example of trading futures the world has ever seen and makes a fortune and turns to the naysayers and says, "You see I can do it, but I choose not to".

2500 years later, some guy rocks up and says yeah yeah very interesting, but let's make money. Money is real, metaphysics... well, it's just a brain workout
  • #239
  • Apr 7, 2016 4:37am Apr 7, 2016 4:37am
Regarding that wave view of markets from the beginning of this thread: What I don't yet get is if we can really talk in terms of waves. In science, waves are defined by at least two variables, the independent variable 'time' and an dependent variable. In the FX market our dependent variable would be prize (it can either go up or down). However, if we assume that time doesn't exist in trading, the use of the term "wave" isn't appropriate. Moreover I believe that this wave thing is just an analogy which helps to better understand what alexx90 & CP mentioned. If we want to be correct, we have to talk about pseudo-random processes ... No time, no waves. Maybe the use of cyclic behaviour is appropriate?!
  • #240
  • Apr 7, 2016 7:58am Apr 7, 2016 7:58am
Quoting triphop
Quite right. Den, you know the story yes? So way back in ancient Greece, people said Thales, philosophy is futile, why bother? He says what would you chumps know?, or similar in Greek. And they say well it's all a brain workout, it's not real. Money is real. Olives are real. Make some money, prove it's worthwhile. OK fuckheads, he says, watch this. He then corners the olive market in one year, first ever example of trading futures the world has ever seen and makes a fortune and turns to the naysayers and says, "You see I can do it, but I choose...
OK. I understand what you mean and I'm glad to hear you. I have nothing against metaphysics and philosophy, and I think these concepts are the highest point of understanding. I do not think it's useless, but I'll just share the tangible and intangible on 2 different worlds. Money, olives, etc. is unfortunately or fortunately, they are in the material.
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