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  • First Post: Jul 23, 2015 1:03pm Jul 23, 2015 1:03pm
  •  alexx90
  • Joined Jun 2013 | Status: Hunting the edge | 310 Posts
This post will start with a lot of questions, is there a better way to awake minds?
What if everything is energy, what if everything is in a state of constant vibration?
What if matter is a consequence of this vibration?
Let's jump to the train and go back in time, what if at the beginning there was order and then chaos started to appear here and there?
Can you imagine the light turning on and off so like order turning on and off?
I can see this whole world as a war between order and chaos.
It's like a big flame that gave the start to everything and everything is connected, everything is sharing this unique force that was the father of things (this is not a religious concept).
What if this force is what controls our life, our decisions, our ideas, our immagination and even our trading?
What if price rises because there is this unseen force?
What if I say that price is the representation on a 2D chart of this unseen force?
What if this force works on multiple dimensions and it appears here and there at unknown point in time?
A lot of questions I know, but this is the way I think.
What if our way of thinking is the result of this unseen force?
From one idea to a different one as from one order to other and between orders there is chaos.
Imagine yourself walking on a stairway, every step is order and every move you do from one step to other is chaos.
You are always in order, when you start and when you arrive but it’s a different order, it’s an order on a different level and how do you arrive there? Going through chaos.
Let me add more wood to the fire.
What if this unseen force doesn’t know time, doesn’t know yesterday, tomorrow or in a few minutes, what if it is not time dependent? If this is true and if this unseen force governs trading, why are we using timeframes, why are we trying to capture and close this force in boxes (time)?
What if this unseen force act always like the flow of a river?
Please read carefully because I’m not saying this is true or false, I’m not saying what other people thinks is right or wrong. I’ve left food for thoughts. Someone will take it and someone will not, we are humans and we all live on the earth but our thoughts are all on different dimensions.

Alex
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  •  mvp77
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It's simple . . .

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  •  edgartan
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Quoting alexx90
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This post will start with a lot of questions, is there a better way to awake minds?
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just wondering did u take this trade ?
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  •  alexx90
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Quoting edgartan
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{quote} just wondering did u take this trade ? {image}
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I don't know what trade you are referring to.
 
 
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  •  edgartan
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that is gu trade, thanks alex
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  •  blueseahorse
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hello alexx, how is your trade ongoing?
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  •  drammen
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What is up with the indicators you guys are using here? I have seen CrucialPoint having the same thing. Is there a thread where i can read about those? Have i missed out on something?
Energy, frequency and vibration.
 
 
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  •  edgartan
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i believe is not the same, we may intrepret diffrently what cp said according our knowledge, i will never could replica CP or alexx indi, they have their own calculation, i have my own
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  •  blueseahorse
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trade taken today:
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Quoting alexx90
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This post will start with a lot of questions, is there a better way to awake minds? What if everything is energy, what if everything is in a state of constant vibration? What if matter is a consequence of this vibration? Let's jump to the train and go back in time, what if at the beginning there was order and then chaos started to appear here and there? Can you imagine the light turning on and off so like order turning on and off? I can see this whole world as a war between order and chaos. It's like a big flame that gave the start to everything...
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may the force be with us
we don't predict, we only ride
 
 
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  •  blueseahorse
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only being scalping:
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trade taken just now:
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  •  alexx90
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This thread is not about posting trades, this trades was started with the intention to find some natures of market.
So please stop posting trades.

Alex
 
 
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  •  edgartan
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Quoting alexx90
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This post will start with a lot of questions, is there a better way to awake minds?
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alexx i thank you for this, your question is somehow allow me to connect the dot,


i leave with this :

do you think every day, in our life is in order ?
do you think my order is your order?
do you think your chaos is my order ?
what is order?
order to who,what,where,when?
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  •  alexx90
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This is what I think and everyone is free to think, elaborate or discard what i'll say.
Ego is always manipulating our perceptions but if someone knows how to recognise it and put it apart, that person will have the possibility to see things ever imagined.
In this case ego is driving us to think that we live on earth and we control everything, we decide everything and what we don't know is only something we have to conquer. That is not true and there will always be things we can't control.
I know that for human's mind is better to think we are in control, everything is under control. That is not true.
Sometimes what for human's mind is better it doesn't reflect reality.
We are entities that live on earth, we are part of the whole, we are part of an harmony and we are dancing without ever knowing it.
It's not a surprise that we live in a quantum world and everything is vibrating, oscillating, but from now i'll use the term pulse.
Our heart is pulsing and we can see it through an ECG.
Our body is pulsing, our cells.
Our mind is pulsing and we can see it through an EEG. You will see that there are different types of brainwaves.
Still earth is pulsing, the universe, and everything.
As we live on earth and we have not the control of everything, we are subject to a lot of things.
What if our brainwaves are influenced by the pulse of the earth, or the universe, or the ionosphere?
Our decisions, emotions and thoughts are expressed via these brainwaves, imagine if you are not totally in control of these brainwaves and the world around you is constantly influencing them, in other words it's influencing how you decide, how you feel, how you think, and yes everything can still happen, the unexpected change.

Alex
 
 
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  •  alexx90
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Underlying structure does matter.
From simple structures still powerful

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To complex structures

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You can simplify without losing its structure.
Does Chaos hide simple still powerful structures?
 
 
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How I see it:
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  • Sep 8, 2015 9:33am Sep 8, 2015 9:33am
  •  alexx90
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There are a lot of things to discover about nature, trading is not different from it.
Everything is based upon a construct. Every simple structure (such as the atom) is governed by Universal Laws, every complex structure (molecule, dna, tissue, body..) is based upon simple structure, every complex structure in its simple form is governed by Universal Laws.

The Principles of Truth are Seven; he who knows these, understandingly, possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the Temple fly open.
- THE ALL IS MIND; The Universe is Mental.
- As above, so below; as below, so above.
- Nothing rests; everything moves; everything vibrates.
- Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.
- Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates.
- Every Cause has its Effect; every Effect has its Cause; everything happens according to Law; Chance is but a name for Law not recognized; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the Law.
- Gender is in everything; everything has its Masculine and Feminine Principles; Gender manifests on all planes.
~The Kybalion
 
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  •  CrucialPoint
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Setting the Records Straight :nerd:

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A lot of people have limited understanding of Newtonian Physics Or have missed the Crucial Point of Newtonian Physics.
Go find a real Physicist and confirm what I'm about to tell you (if you don't believe me).

Here it is:

  1. Newtonian Physics is not perfect.
  2. There is a very tiny misalignment (I don't know the exact power of decimals, but for this simple illustration let's say 0.000000000001).


1 + 1 does not equal 2
But the reality is that 1 + 1 = 1.9999999999999
Of course (we humans, being polite in nature, don't want to be this anal) so we round this off to 2

And this misalignment or imperfection gave our understanding to Chaos and how we realized the world is in a chaotic state.
Thus also the reason why Newtonian physics doesn't apply to Quantum levels due to this tiny imperfection.

This is the reason why so many intelligent people failed applying Newtonian physics to market.
No different from a Doctor who prescribe paracetamol to combat fever.
No different from a Horticulturist to put deep rooted plants in pots.
No different from a Mathematical person to apply Newtonian physics to the markets.
All receives a Big F without understand WHY.

You can't tackle the market head on with Newtonian Physics. It'll blow up right in your face if you dare.


Peace,
CrucialPoint

 
 
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  •  edgartan
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Newtonian physics is an approximation of how the world works that is not totally correct, but in many cases is accurate enough to be incredibly useful. In such circumstances (like the ordinary motion of a baseball), the inaccuracy is so low as to be practically imperceptible, though it is still there.


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There is a very tiny misalignment
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Since these misalignments are so small, the motions are initially very tiny. They progressively build with each cycle until the entire system is in motion.
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