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  • #601
  • Feb 24, 2016 5:29am Feb 24, 2016 5:29am
Hi Xaphod,
Can you code a Heiken Ashi MTF with extern parameter:
string TimeFrame = 60;
int MaPeriod = 21;
int MaMetod = 3;
int Step = 0;
bool BetterFormula = false; // can ignore this

Thanks for your best system!
  • #602
  • Feb 29, 2016 10:27am Feb 29, 2016 10:27am
Hi Xaphod,

Regarding #MTF Stochastic v2.0.mq4, i noticed it is repainting. I understand if my chart is m5 and the stoch is m15, i need to wait for the m15 to close first to permanently paint them

but i have observed that even with the M15 supposely closed, the value still keep changing f

redwed confirmed this observation too

I give you an example as attached

this is M1 chart with M5 MTF Stochastic

1. The point where the red & brown line meets is at 18:10
2. When i looked at the chart, it was already at 18:17. The brown line value still keeps changing and there's no line between 18:15 to 18:17
3. When the bar reach 18:20, the line between 18:10 to 18:14 is permanently painted and the brown line now appears between 18:15 to 18:20

By right, when the bar is at 18:17, the brown line from 18:10 to 18:14 should have been permanently painted, correct?
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  • #603
  • Feb 29, 2016 3:14pm Feb 29, 2016 3:14pm
Quoting tanwt
Hi Xaphod, Regarding #MTF Stochastic v2.0.mq4, i noticed it is repainting. I understand if my chart is m5 and the stoch is m15, i need to wait for the m15 to close first to permanently paint them but i have observed that even with the M15 supposely closed, the value still keep changing f redwed confirmed this observation too I give you an example as attached this is M1 chart with M5 MTF Stochastic 1.
Hello tanwt,

Why have you cropped out the currency, the time-frame and time-axis from the chart? These are the very things one would use to diagnose these kind of problems with MTF indicators.

Anyway, I think you have me mistaken with someone else. This is not one of my indicators and I have not had anything to do with it. You could try my "Stoch MTF" indicator if you are unhappy with this one. It is available on the first post of this thread.
  • #604
  • Feb 29, 2016 7:37pm Feb 29, 2016 7:37pm
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} Hello tanwt, Why have you cropped out the currency, the time-frame and time-axis from the chart? These are the very things one would use to diagnose these kind of problems with MTF indicators. Anyway, I think you have me mistaken with someone else. This is not one of my indicators and I have not had anything to do with it. You could try my "Stoch MTF" indicator if you are unhappy with this one. It is available on the first post of this thread.
Hi Xaphod,

my bad. i thought this is yours caused i took it from Genesis Matrix

i did try yours after i found that original indi repaint (pls find it attached)

i confirmed yours don't repaint but i also found an issue

You can see the attachment i have added 3 MTF stoch. Yours is the bottom ones

My observation

1. M5 chart and M5 Stoch, all 3x MTF shows same value
2. M15 chart and M15 Stoch, all 3x MTF shows same value
3. M5 chart and M15 Stoch. Yours and the original value are different

Now the main issue is for your indi, the M5 chart + M15 stoch value is different from M15 chart + M15 stoch whereas the original indi has same value

I hope my explanation is clear
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  • #605
  • Feb 29, 2016 11:39pm Feb 29, 2016 11:39pm
Quoting tanwt
{quote} Hi Xaphod, my bad. i thought this is yours caused i took it from Genesis Matrix i did try yours after i found that original indi repaint (pls find it attached) i confirmed yours don't repaint but i also found an issue You can see the attachment i have added 3 MTF stoch. Yours is the bottom ones My observation 1. M5 chart and M5 Stoch, all 3x MTF shows same value 2. M15 chart and M15 Stoch, all 3x MTF shows same value 3. M5 chart and M15 Stoch. Yours and the original value are different Now the main issue is for your indi, the...
I think this has been discussed before. See here:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...32#post6053432
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...47#post7513847

And this may be of interest:
https://encrypted.google.com/search?...nshot&tbs=li:1
  • #606
  • Mar 2, 2016 12:04am Mar 2, 2016 12:04am
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} I think this has been discussed before. See here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...32#post6053432 http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...47#post7513847 And this may be of interest: https://encrypted.google.com/search?...nshot&tbs=li:1
Hi Xaphod,

Just to clear my doubt

does this mean for your indi, it is normal if the M5 chart + M15 stoch (your indi) value is different from M15 chart + M15 stoch (your indi) for let's say time at 00:00 ?
  • #607
  • Edited 5:25am Mar 2, 2016 4:54am | Edited 5:25am
Quoting tanwt
{quote} Hi Xaphod, Just to clear my doubt does this mean for your indi, it is normal if the M5 chart + M15 stoch (your indi) value is different from M15 chart + M15 stoch (your indi) for let's say time at 00:00 ?
Yes it is normal and it is correct.

At 00:00 on the chart, the M15 candles closes at 00:14:59 and the M5 candle closes at 00:04:59. If your MTF stochastic indicator plots the 00:14:59 stochastic value at 00:04:59, it is 10 minutes into the future and you could become a very rich person.

The Stoch-MTF indicator plots the M15 00:00 stochastic value at close of the M5 00:10 bar which is the time the M15 00:00 bar closes. That is actually what you will be seeing on a live chart. Open one M15 chart and one M5 chart next to each other and watch them live.

And for your convenience, there is a dot on the Stoch-MTF chart marking the close of the M15 candle.
  • #608
  • Mar 2, 2016 5:01am Mar 2, 2016 5:01am
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} Yes it is normal and it is correct. At 00:00 on the chart, the M15 candles closes at 00:15 and the M5 candle closes at 00:05. If your MTF stochastic indicator plots the 00:15 stochastic value at 00:05, it is 10 minutes into the future and you will become a very rich person. The Stoch-MTF indicator plots the M15 00:00 stochastic value at close of the M5 00:10 bar which is the time the M15 00:00 bar closes. That is actually what you will be seeing on a live chart. Open one M15 chart and one M5 chart next to each other and watch them live.
thanks for your explanation
  • #609
  • Mar 10, 2016 10:18pm Mar 10, 2016 10:18pm
tanwt,

ww.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=2101990, maybe, this can help.


Charts are M5, Dots in the chart are not repainted.
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  • #610
  • Apr 6, 2016 11:17am Apr 6, 2016 11:17am
Hi Xaphod,

Regarding the T3_8 indi usage you use in Genesis, is there a mistake in the remark for "Bear Signal" and "Bull Signal" ? Seems to be the other way around ?

Thanks

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//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
// function: ProcessT3_8()
// Description: Calc T3_8 data and update matrix
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
int ProcessT3_8(int iNewBars, int iPeriod, double& vdUp[], double& vdDn[]) {
int i,j,iUp=0;
double dSig=0;
int iHTFBar=-1;

// Draw tape chart
for(i=iNewBars+TimeFrame_Period/Period(); i>=0; i--) {
if (i>MathMax(Bars-2,Bars-iPeriod))
continue;
// Shift index for higher time-frame
if (TimeFrame_Period>Period())
j=iBarShift(Symbol(), TimeFrame_Period, Time[i]);
else
j=i;
// Calc T3_8 data
if (iHTFBar!=j) {
iHTFBar=j;
iUp = (int)iCustom(NULL,TimeFrame_Period,IND_T3_8,T3_Period,PRICE_CLOSE, T3_BarCount, 1,j);
//iUp = iCustom(NULL,TimeFrame_Period,IND_T3_8,T3_Period,1,j);
}
// Bear signal
if (iUp==1) {
vdDn[i]=gadGap[IDX_T3_8];
vdUp[i]=0;
}
// Bull signal
else {
vdUp[i]=gadGap[IDX_T3_8];
vdDn[i]=0;
}
}
return(0);
}
  • #611
  • Sep 22, 2016 1:29am Sep 22, 2016 1:29am
Could you please help on how should apply the GMTS system in MT4, because some indicators don't appear their window is empty.
Thank you
  • #612
  • Nov 20, 2016 8:47am Nov 20, 2016 8:47am
Hi Xaphod,

Is it possible for you to, kindly, create a "tape indicator" for the Ultra Stochastic indicator attached like your indicator Stoch-Tape? Ultra Stocastic indicator is a"real time" / "true" MTF indicator. I remember that you have created a matrix indicator from a real time TDI,MTF-zz indicator.

Thanks in advance.

Erkan.
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  • #613
  • Jun 24, 2017 7:32am Jun 24, 2017 7:32am
Hello, Xaphod.

I hope you are still recheable.

First off, a big thank you for everything you've created and brought onto this forum, just priceless.

I have a Q re Stoch-MTF. I'm trying to reproduce it on the paper, by hand, but I can't understand your code, the overwhelming part of it.

Could you, please, write down some formulas here, which I could you to build both %K and %D lines?
  • #614
  • Edited 10:07pm Jun 26, 2017 9:54pm | Edited 10:07pm
Hello Botan626,

The indicator figures out the last two bars on the higher timeframe, calculates the stochastic data for them and draws a straight line between them. There are quite a few comments in the code to let you know what it is doing. It uses MT4s built in stochastic function:
https://docs.mql4.com/indicators/istochastic
and linear interpolation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_interpolation

Most of the code is used to manage and present the data. There is another MTF stochastic indicator floating around that is a lot simpler, however it draws the chart shifted to the right, if I remember correctly. I'm afraid I was not able to make it any simpler. You will have to ask more specific questions about the code for more illuminating answers.


Quoting Botan626
Hello, Xaphod. I hope you are still recheable. First off, a big thank you for everything you've created and brought onto this forum, just priceless. I have a Q re Stoch-MTF. I'm trying to reproduce it on the paper, by hand, but I can't understand your code, the overwhelming part of it. Could you, please, write down some formulas here, which I could you to build both %K and %D lines?
  • #615
  • Jun 27, 2017 4:59am Jun 27, 2017 4:59am
Quoting Xaphod
Hello Botan626, The indicator figures out the last two bars on the higher timeframe, calculates the stochastic data for them and draws a straight line between them. There are quite a few comments in the code to let you know what it is doing. It uses MT4s built in stochastic function: https://docs.mql4.com/indicators/istochastic and linear interpolation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_interpolation Most of the code is used to manage and present the data. There is another MTF stochastic indicator floating around that is...
Wow, Xaphod you are still here!! Glad to see you back.
I am still using your GMTS and xSuperTrend indicators and I really like them. I really appreciate it.
Hope we can see you more often in FF.
Have a good day.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #616
  • Jun 28, 2017 12:03am Jun 28, 2017 12:03am
Hi Heispark,

Glad that you still find the indicators useful. I do drop by occasionally to see what is going on here on FF.
All the best!

Quoting heispark
{quote} Wow, Xaphod you are still here!! Glad to see you back. I am still using your GMTS and xSuperTrend indicators and I really like them. I really appreciate it. Hope we can see you more often in FF. Have a good day.
  • #617
  • Jul 1, 2017 3:30pm Jul 1, 2017 3:30pm
Quoting Xaphod
Hello Botan626, The indicator figures out the last two bars on the higher timeframe, calculates the stochastic data for them and draws a straight line between them. There are quite a few comments in the code to let you know what it is doing. It uses MT4s built in stochastic function: https://docs.mql4.com/indicators/istochastic and linear interpolation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_interpolation Most of the code is used to manage and present the data. There is another MTF stochastic indicator floating around that is...
Thanks for your reply.

Yes, you are right about another MTF stochastic indicator. Here's your post with comparison.

Lets assume we are using the following settings: TF=current, TF auto select disabled, 11,3,3, Low/High, SMA.

1. So Stoch-MTF uses a built in MT4 Stochastic function, do I understand it right, that for the current TF Stoch-MTF and built in Stochastic indicator produce the same output (same settings, ignoring colors and dots)?

2. Stoch-MTF has a Price Field setting. I can understand the Low/High. We take the LL, the HH of a choosen period and a close price for the last closed candle (11th for the 11 period) and using this formula:

%K-Fast = 100*(Close price-LL)/(HH-LL),

we get %K-Fast values, then we slow them, for e.g., using simple MA and receive the %K-Slow values which we can see on the charts.
But what does Close/Close mean?

3. I can't calculate the right values of %K-Slow line (SMA3 method). Using the formula above I can get the right values for %K-Fast, applying the settings 11,3,1 (no slowing), I can verify they are correct.

As I know, to calculate %K-Slow value for the last closed candle, we take %K-Fast value for this candle and the %K-Fast values for the previous 2 candles.
Then using the following formula:

%K-Slow = (Sum of last %K-Fast values)/3,

we get %K-Slow values. But the calculated and actual plotted values are different. Where am I wrong?

4. Not asking you to modify your indicator, but theoretically, is it possible to make a MTF Stoch indicator for H2, H6, H8, H12 timeframes for MT4? I suppose we can calculate OHLC values for those timeframes simply suming up and substracting values from lower corresponding timeframes.
  • #618
  • Jul 1, 2017 11:31pm Jul 1, 2017 11:31pm
Quoting Botan626
1. So Stoch-MTF uses a built in MT4 Stochastic function, do I understand it right, that for the current TF Stoch-MTF and built in Stochastic indicator produce the same output (same settings, ignoring colors and dots)?
Yes. Is this a trick question? It is trivial to just put them on the chart to verify this for yourself. Just drag and drop the indicators onto the same stoch chart.
Inserted Code
extern int   TimeFrame_Auto=0;    // Automatically select higher TF. M15 and M30 -> H1. [b]Off=0[/b], 1st HTF=1, 2nd HTF=2

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2. Stoch-MTF has a Price Field setting. I can understand the Low/High. We take the LL, the HH of a choosen period and a close price for the last closed candle (11th for the 11 period) and using this formula: %K-Fast = 100*(Close price-LL)/(HH-LL), we get %K-Fast values, then we slow them, for e.g., using simple MA and receive the %K-Slow values which we can see on the charts. But what does Close/Close mean?
As Stoch-MTF uses the built in MT4 Stochastic function, it has the same input parameter fields. I do not have the formula that metaquotes uses the calculate their stochastic function or any more information about the parameters that are not given in the documentation. You will have to ask them for this information. You could try asking on their forum.

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3. I can't calculate the right values of %K-Slow line (SMA3 method).
I do not think they use the SMA3 to calculate the %K-Slow line. See the Stochastic.mq4 indicator supplied with MT4 for some info on how they most likely do their calculations and checkout MaryJanes post about it: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...60#post4704360

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4. Not asking you to modify your indicator, but theoretically, is it possible to make a MTF Stoch indicator for H2, H6, H8, H12 timeframes for MT4?
Yes, it is. The built in stochastic works on offline charts. You will need to change the code that handles the timeframe parameters. Easiest is probably to strip out the auto timeframe code. For example:
Inserted Code
// Indicator parameters
extern int TimeFrame_TF=12;        
//extern int       TimeFrame_Auto=1;
...
// Set Timeframe
giTimeFrame=TimeFrame_TF
giRepaintBars=giTimeFrame/Period()+2;
  • #619
  • Jul 4, 2017 11:57am Jul 4, 2017 11:57am
Quoting Xaphod
Yes. Is this a trick question?
No, I was asking from technical stand point, the eyes can lie.

Quote
I do not think they use the SMA3 to calculate the %K-Slow line. See the Stochastic.mq4 indicator supplied with MT4 for some info on how they most likely do their calculations and checkout MaryJanes post about it: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...60#post4704360

Useful info, thanks for it.

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Yes, it is. The built in stochastic works on offline charts. You will need to change the code that handles the timeframe parameters. Easiest is probably to strip out the auto timeframe code.

Didn't know anything about offline charts with custom TFs for MT4 until your post, great you pointed me at them. But it's not quite what I wanted. I'd like to have, let's say, a M30 live chart with M30, H1, H2, H4 Stochs. I guess it's somehow possible to build in your Stoch-MTF period calculator?

Btw, I created a H2 offline chart and just loaded Stoch-MTF on it with no code modification, it successfully showed M120-Stoch.
  • #620
  • Edited 5:53pm Jul 4, 2017 5:06pm | Edited 5:53pm
Quoting Botan626
{quote} Didn't know anything about offline charts with custom TFs for MT4 until your post, great you pointed me at them. But it's not quite what I wanted. I'd like to have, let's say, a M30 live chart with M30, H1, H2, H4 Stochs. I guess it's somehow possible to build in your Stoch-MTF period calculator? Btw, I created a H2 offline chart and just loaded Stoch-MTF on it with no code modification, it successfully showed M120-Stoch.
So, you are almost there. Once you have an offline chart open, you can put an MTF indicator on another chart using the offline charts data. Ex:

  1. Create M8, M10, M12 offline charts using scripts/experts on a M1 charts. For best results, always run the script on the M1 chart.
    I think you need one M1 chart per period converter script.
    Or a custom EA/Script that generates multiple timeframes.
  2. Leave offline chart(s) open and period_converter script(s) running
  3. Open new M5 chart
  4. Place 3 MTF indicators on it and set it them to M8, M10, M12
  5. Enjoy. It is a bit of a round about way, but it works.

Here is a modified Stoch-MTF that allows you to set any time-frame.

Edited: New upload. The previous one did not work properly:

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