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  • #1,045,601
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:14pm Dec 17, 2015 10:14pm
Quoting gatorinla
1.2470 {image}
Here we go- pictoral form with just the important
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  • #1,045,602
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:21pm Dec 17, 2015 10:21pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} I have that one too, which we hit target for back in March. The norm for that is -as you know- 1.4172 What I like about Hatch's leg more, is that with all norms and targets hit it still stays with the Monthly/Yearly trend of HH and LL I would bet that hitting 1.4172, or breaking any of these major swing highs would set a lot of new things in motion for the "bastards" As you also know, gator has preached that things changed in 2008.....it stands to reason that the way money is handled (and indeed the entire market top to bottom) post 2008...
As I understand things we do not need hit its norm.Norm already hit twice after and surpassed up to %75 level. The only norm which bothers me is last leg down one which is around 1.22. May be I am wrong and misunderstood norm thing
  • #1,045,603
  • Edited 10:51pm Dec 17, 2015 10:27pm | Edited 10:51pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} Here we go- pictoral form with just the important {image}
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those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,045,604
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:30pm Dec 17, 2015 10:30pm
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} As I understand things we do not need hit its norm.Norm already hit twice after and surpassed up to %75 level. The only norm which bothers me is last leg down one which is around 1.22. May be I am wrong and misunderstood norm thing
You do it correct I believe, I don't consider a norm in exsistance until the first target (or extension however you label it) is hit, until then it's just an ABCD mid

That answers gators question too

Perhaps I'm the new school, or just wrong.

The reason I say this- is because we usually pull back at targets......for norm. It could be said that we usually pull back after a LL
  • #1,045,605
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:31pm Dec 17, 2015 10:31pm
Why is E/j dropping like a rock now? anyone expecting it to rise again. i dont have a position open, im just wondering?
  • #1,045,606
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:36pm Dec 17, 2015 10:36pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} You do it correct I believe, I don't consider a norm in exsistance until the first target (or extension however you label it) is hit, until then it's just an ABCD mid That answers gators question too Perhaps I'm the new school, or just wrong. The reason I say this- is because we usually pull back at targets......for norm. It could be said that we usually pull back after a LL
Long term legs since 2008 Top.
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  • #1,045,607
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:38pm Dec 17, 2015 10:38pm
Ok....I'm blind now.....
How many people here have telekenetic powers?...raise my hand
  • #1,045,608
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:39pm Dec 17, 2015 10:39pm
What the fuck Rock

hahahahahahaha my girlfriend walked in and was like "what the hell is that, a 3d chart?!"
  • #1,045,609
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:43pm Dec 17, 2015 10:43pm
Quoting Pharm0r
What the fuck Rock hahahahahahaha my girlfriend walked in and was like "what the hell is that, a 3d chart?!"
Lol,
All in one long term HH-LL and norms and targets Do not scare her
  • #1,045,610
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:45pm Dec 17, 2015 10:45pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} Here we go- pictoral form with just the important {image}
correct 1.222 is the larger (single leg norm).. and it is pulling along with 1.2470. its not a absolute.. its not a pure number sequence in pa, we have to add fundi influence such as fed raise seemed to be logical at some point, because it was as low as it could go. add in energy help and it swings back toward 2011 or even pre 1970 usd strength. or even the 200 years before the last 40 printing anomaly. at least till it changes. cheaper energy gives many options. especially when the energy cost deficit shrinks, and the domestic gdp from energy adds. cheaper energy comparative makes other domestic commodities as well as manufacturing in u.s. cheaper. it makes u.s. products more competitive even as usd rises. domestic consumers with a job buy more.

so 1.222 and 1.2470 are valid. we have to use an educated guess they will be less likely with the other fundis. but a bounce of some sort should happen because bears have a setup to drop. if not we will be stuck in a range like uj is my guess,
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #1,045,611
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:46pm Dec 17, 2015 10:46pm
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} Long term legs since 2008 Top. {image}
You win.... you have more dots than me...
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  • #1,045,612
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:46pm Dec 17, 2015 10:46pm
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} Lol, All in one long term HH-LL and norms and targets Do not scare her
I paired it with this, and she just laughed....

the kind of laugh that you make when you really have no clue what someone is talking about, but you laugh anyway just to fake it
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  • #1,045,613
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:49pm Dec 17, 2015 10:49pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} I paired it with this, and she just laughed.... the kind of laugh that you make when you really have no clue what someone is talking about, but you laugh anyway just to fake it {image}
This one is my favorite, I tried to embed into one of the indicator but could not make it
  • #1,045,614
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:49pm Dec 17, 2015 10:49pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure he will....

I actually believe Hatch follows the same method I do- at least that is what I was led to believe, as that's how I learned it.

Perhaps I'm just smarter than all of you
  • #1,045,615
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:51pm Dec 17, 2015 10:51pm
Quoting TraderCapAym
{quote} You win.... you have more dots than me... {image}
Lol, thanks. Actually those are lines but I made them dots to prevent line jumps on charts. If not charts become total mess
  • #1,045,616
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:56pm Dec 17, 2015 10:56pm
Quoting Pharm0r
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure he will.... I actually believe Hatch follows the same method I do- at least that is what I was led to believe, as that's how I learned it. Perhaps I'm just smarter than all of you
As long as HH or LL not broken than its OK, but as Gator showed when one of them broken walk to the next one especially if norm hit once or surpassed for better R:R. This is my understanding.
  • #1,045,617
  • Dec 17, 2015 10:58pm Dec 17, 2015 10:58pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} correct 1.222 is the larger (single leg norm).. and it is pulling along with 1.2470. its not a absolute.. its not a pure number sequence in pa, we have to add fundi influence such as fed raise seemed to be logical at some point, because it was as low as it could go. add in energy help and it swings back toward 2011 or even pre 1970 usd strength. or even the 200 years before the last 40 printing anomaly. at least till it changes. cheaper energy gives many options. especially when the energy cost deficit shrinks, and the domestic gdp from...
fundamentals shmundamentals

We agree on the bounce, and we agree where it ends. Obviously we should, as I'm using your method to predict it. Perhaps the market makes us both the fool and never does in our lifetime.

None of this accounts for 3d printing, WW3, Asteroids, oil going obsolete, crooked bankers and politicians

Not shit I can do until we get there, if we get there. Once we are there, fundies be damned- I'll trade it. I'm not knocking your fundamental view, as I agree with it with the limited experience I have in world matters...but I can't trade that. Give me a destination, I'll map it- tell me why we're going there....well thats when things get weird. Dont forget I'm from Texas....we still think windmills are a good way to pump water
  • #1,045,618
  • Dec 17, 2015 11:06pm Dec 17, 2015 11:06pm
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} As long as HH or LL not broken than its OK, but as Gator showed when one of them broken walk to the next one especially if norm hit once or surpassed for better R:R. This is my understanding.
I understand your understading.

It seems to me, that once we hit a target and usually bounce....we have to have somewhere to go. If we bounce early, and go to norm- it seems more often than not we overshoot, and I cant trade that with the accuracy I want. The only other option would be the last chance mofu before a new LL/HH for the best RR

Just a suggestion to watch perhaps, that I feel is more accurate. In reality I would wager that it can be traded both ways successfully
  • #1,045,619
  • Dec 17, 2015 11:17pm Dec 17, 2015 11:17pm
took more UC shorts after closing S 3982 @ 3925 (late post i know)
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  • #1,045,620
  • Dec 17, 2015 11:17pm Dec 17, 2015 11:17pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} I understand your understading. It seems to me, that once we hit a target and usually bounce....we have to have somewhere to go. If we bounce early, and go to norm- it seems more often than not we overshoot, and I cant trade that with the accuracy I want. The only other option would be the last chance mofu before a new LL/HH for the best RR Just a suggestion to watch perhaps, that I feel is more accurate. In reality I would wager that it can be traded both ways successfully
I agree with that. Most of the times those are best ones. I usually watch LM after LL break out and UM after HH break out to go back direction of break out.
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